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Post by dondub on Mar 3, 2016 19:41:50 GMT -5
I called you out on it when you did it and you ignored it so you can now pretend it never happened. Sorry, that's truth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 19:46:19 GMT -5
I called you out on it when you did it and you ignored it so you can now pretend it never happened. Sorry, that's truth. You may have "called me out" on something... but that doesn't men your "call out" had any truth in it... since I've never actually "fake [quoted]" you. I must have missed the call-out however, if I didn't respond to it. Trust me... I don't ignore false accusations against me. If you made one and I didn't comment on it... it's because I didn't see/read it. I thought you wanted to drop this anyway... was that a lie?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 3, 2016 20:38:27 GMT -5
I'm wonder how tonight will go. Trump has gotten a little better trying to look presidential. Good luck with that you narcissist liar. It would be best for the others to let him speak since he has little to say.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 3, 2016 22:08:51 GMT -5
I am getting debate fatigue. Never thought that was possible. Have to admit the moderators are doing a darn good job keeping the men separated and keeping control of the debate. Rubio and Trump are still flaming each other. It's tiresome on both sides. Cruz has learned from this. Playing it pretty cool, and as usual, Kasich being ignored.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 3, 2016 22:11:44 GMT -5
I am getting debate fatigue. Never thought that was possible. Have to admit the moderators are doing a darn good job keeping the men separated and keeping control of the debate. Rubio and Trump are still flaming each other. It's tiresome on both sides. Cruz has learned from this. Playing it pretty cool, and as usual, Kasich being ignored. i don't remember you having this complaint in 2012, when there were something like 3x the number of debates. then again, i never get tired of listening to Herman Cain.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 3, 2016 22:14:40 GMT -5
I am getting debate fatigue. Never thought that was possible. Have to admit the moderators are doing a darn good job keeping the men separated and keeping control of the debate. Rubio and Trump are still flaming each other. It's tiresome on both sides. Cruz has learned from this. Playing it pretty cool, and as usual, Kasich being ignored. i don't remember you having this complaint in 2012, when there were something like 3x the number of debates. then again, i never get tired of listening to Herman Cain. I was four years younger? Four years ago we had debates. Were there really three times the number? We had moderators who controlled the flow of debates. Now we listen to yelling and insults.
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Post by Opti on Mar 3, 2016 22:35:28 GMT -5
I don't think Romney is that thin skinned. I think a bunch of GOPers got together and said 'we have to derail this crazy train before this guy ruins the party' and then picked some of the most prominent GOPers to sic on the mad dog.
Not only has Romney spoken up, but McCain did, too, and he's pointing out that there is a list of 60 other Republicans active in international affairs who have signed a letter stating that Trump will be a disaster if he gets let loose in foreign policy. This is an organized military assault, I just wish they had of called out the troops earlier. Poor wretches don't realize that being despised by the Republican establishment is 95% of what Mr. Trump has going for him. They haven't clued in yet that they're the Patriot Acting, government shutdown aborting, deficit ceiling raising, PPACA fail-to-preventing, Snowden persecuting, war losing, let Obama run amoking, Wall Street out-to-selling, useless rectal tumour of a political party Americans hate so much that their condemnation is political gold. Well... sucks to be them. I don't know if I'd call it political gold, but I will agree having Romney speak out will not help in slowing down Trump.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 3, 2016 22:47:16 GMT -5
I am getting debate fatigue. Never thought that was possible. Have to admit the moderators are doing a darn good job keeping the men separated and keeping control of the debate. Rubio and Trump are still flaming each other. It's tiresome on both sides. Cruz has learned from this. Playing it pretty cool, and as usual, Kasich being ignored. I have to re-track my last sentence. Cruz has made the same boring and half truth attack against Trump about three times now. It is so tiresome, and outright loathsome. Cruz was asked how to bring back jobs to Detroit and what plan he has for it, and did a two minute attack on Democrats. Wallace said since you didn't answer the question, we will give you 30 more seconds to answer. He still didn't answer it. wth is this?
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Post by tallguy on Mar 3, 2016 22:59:54 GMT -5
I am getting debate fatigue. Never thought that was possible. Have to admit the moderators are doing a darn good job keeping the men separated and keeping control of the debate. Rubio and Trump are still flaming each other. It's tiresome on both sides. Cruz has learned from this. Playing it pretty cool, and as usual, Kasich being ignored. I have to retack my last sentence. Cruz has made the same boring and half truth attack against Trump about three times now. It is so tiresome, and outright loathsome. Cruz was asked how to bring back jobs to Detroit and what plan he has for it, and did a two minute attack on Demcrats. Wallace said since you didn't answer the question, we will give you 30 more seconds to answer. He still didn't answer it. wth is this?Don't you think there should be a rule for these debates? "Well, Senator, since you apparently have no interest in answering the questions that we ask, we just won't bother you with any more." And then proceed to ignore him the rest of the night?
That would be awesome!
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Post by fishy999 on Mar 3, 2016 23:54:09 GMT -5
Started out like a trainwreck, and holy eyelashes Megan! The dumpster is still on fire.....
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2016 1:59:53 GMT -5
Poor wretches don't realize that being despised by the Republican establishment is 95% of what Mr. Trump has going for him. They haven't clued in yet that they're the Patriot Acting, government shutdown aborting, deficit ceiling raising, PPACA fail-to-preventing, Snowden persecuting, war losing, let Obama run amoking, Wall Street out-to-selling, useless rectal tumour of a political party Americans hate so much that their condemnation is political gold. Well... sucks to be them. I don't know if I'd call it political gold, but I will agree having Romney speak out will not help in slowing down Trump. that might be true- but i think it might help keep the entire party from just caving into his lunacy.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 4, 2016 7:59:21 GMT -5
Watched the first hour of the debate last night.
That comment Trump made about Romney getting down on his knees was stomach churning. I thought North Korea had the most embarrassing crazy ass leader - if Trump becomes POTUS, we might.
I thought Kaisch looked good, he managed to remain above the fray and was able to highlight his previous successes in government, as far as balancing budgets and encouraging business growth.
Rubio drew blood (helped by Megan as moderator) when discussing Trump university - managed to prove that it had a D- BBB rating (Trump insisted it had an A reading, Megan proved it didn't). Rubio did a good job highlighting the fact that all those people who got sucked into Trump University were the plain hard working people Trump is now promising to help, but Trump refuses to just give them back their money and settle the case. Trump looked bad trying to dismiss the case as 'a minor civil case.' It might be minor to him, but to many of those folks, that 10 - 30 thousand bucks they sank into that fake school was a lot of money.
Trump also looked bad when Rubio brought up his clothing line, which is made in China. When Rubio asked him to promise to start making his clothes in the US, Trump made some lame comment about the Chinese and Japanese having made it impossible to make clothing in the US anymore (the Japanese??). Rubio pointed out, correctly, that Trump could make the clothes in the US but his profit margins would be smaller (look at American Giant).
Cruz didn't make any big mistakes, I didn't think, and Rubio didn't come off as a robot and was able to make Donald look bad a few times, so I think they did fairly well. Fingers crossed that Rubio is able to take Florida and Kasich keeps Ohio.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 4, 2016 8:02:29 GMT -5
I don't think Romney is that thin skinned. I think a bunch of GOPers got together and said 'we have to derail this crazy train before this guy ruins the party' and then picked some of the most prominent GOPers to sic on the mad dog.
Not only has Romney spoken up, but McCain did, too, and he's pointing out that there is a list of 60 other Republicans active in international affairs who have signed a letter stating that Trump will be a disaster if he gets let loose in foreign policy. This is an organized military assault, I just wish they had of called out the troops earlier. Poor wretches don't realize that being despised by the Republican establishment is 95% of what Mr. Trump has going for him. They haven't clued in yet that they're the Patriot Acting, government shutdown aborting, deficit ceiling raising, PPACA fail-to-preventing, Snowden persecuting, war losing, let Obama run amoking, Wall Street out-to-selling, useless rectal tumour of a political party Americans hate so much that their condemnation is political gold. Well... sucks to be them. I still think of the GOP as the party of Lincoln and the party of Reagan, and I think this election cycle may be the jolt they need to return to that. It would be good if they went back to focusing on the middle class and less on special interests and Wall street.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 4, 2016 8:25:21 GMT -5
I have to retack my last sentence. Cruz has made the same boring and half truth attack against Trump about three times now. It is so tiresome, and outright loathsome. Cruz was asked how to bring back jobs to Detroit and what plan he has for it, and did a two minute attack on Demcrats. Wallace said since you didn't answer the question, we will give you 30 more seconds to answer. He still didn't answer it. wth is this?Don't you think there should be a rule for these debates? "Well, Senator, since you apparently have no interest in answering the questions that we ask, we just won't bother you with any more." And then proceed to ignore him the rest of the night?
That would be awesome!
But but but, we would never hear from Trump again Last night Cruz was the repeating robot always using the same tired attacks. Over and over and over and over................................. Moderators made it all about attacking fellow Republicans again rather than making it a debate about President Obama's policies and Hillary's failures.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 4, 2016 8:35:52 GMT -5
Well, so much for Trump attempting to be more presidential.
They've got to stop calling these circus shows debates..... How about verbal brawls?
My hands are normal and I have no problems down there whatsoever, just sayin', little Marco and Lyin' Ted. On your knees Mitt! Also got tired of him trying to shout down either Rubio, Cruz or the moderators, and got really tired of him lobbing insults when he didn't want to answer a question.
Regular politicians at least know how to put some spin on a question they don't want to answer, rather than resorting to name calling.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 4, 2016 8:42:30 GMT -5
Well, so much for Trump attempting to be more presidential.
They've got to stop calling these circus shows debates..... How about verbal brawls?
My hands are normal and I have no problems down there whatsoever, just sayin', little Marco and Lyin' Ted. On your knees Mitt! Also got tired of him trying to shout down either Rubio, Cruz or the moderators, and got really tired of him lobbing insults when he didn't want to answer a question.
Regular politicians at least know how to put some spin on a question they don't want to answer, rather than resorting to name calling.
What? nary a mention of both Cruz and Rubio doing the same thing to Trump? Trump's response is usually a one liner. "Liar", or "not true", and most of the time they were small little truths packed in with total lies from the circus acts on either side of Trump. Rubio and Cruz were using paragraphs talking over Trump. Rubio was even told several times to stop it, to no avail. Just keeping it honest here
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 4, 2016 9:18:37 GMT -5
Mr. Romney's involvement summarized in a cartoon.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 4, 2016 10:30:22 GMT -5
Any idea what was in Cruz's mouth towards the end of the debate? Tooth fragments from grinding his teeth?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2016 10:53:24 GMT -5
Any idea what was in Cruz's mouth towards the end of the debate? Tooth fragments from grinding his teeth? I was once at a staff meeting and two of my co-workers sitting behind me giggled through the whole morning session. During lunch break I asked them what was so funny. They told me our manager had a bit of spittle hanging off the corner of his mouth all morning. After lunch break and back to the meeting, I could not take my eyes off the bit of spittle hanging there again and quietly laughed throughout the entire afternoon session.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2016 15:17:23 GMT -5
Mr. Romney's involvement summarized in a cartoon. Romney is not pictured.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2016 15:18:26 GMT -5
Also got tired of him trying to shout down either Rubio, Cruz or the moderators, and got really tired of him lobbing insults when he didn't want to answer a question.
Regular politicians at least know how to put some spin on a question they don't want to answer, rather than resorting to name calling.
What? nary a mention of both Cruz and Rubio doing the same thing to Trump? Trump's response is usually a one liner. "Liar", or "not true", and most of the time they were small little truths packed in with total lies from the circus acts on either side of Trump. Rubio and Cruz were using paragraphs talking over Trump. Rubio was even told several times to stop it, to no avail. Just keeping it honest here being polite and respectful doesn't work. time to mock his tiny fingers.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 4, 2016 18:20:01 GMT -5
Mr. Romney's involvement summarized in a cartoon. Romney is not pictured. Oh, he is. He's just under the train. They threw him out in the hopes that his corpse might wedge underneath the Trump Train and arrest its momentum a bit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2016 20:01:31 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2016 15:39:57 GMT -5
the polling data is very weak, but here is my take on the next (5) races. KS: i think Cruz wins this one. he is trailing in the polls, but he has a better ground game, has been coming up for a while, and he won a neighboring state. KY: i think it is Trump, here. just don't see anyone else close. Rubio might come in 2nd, here. LA: Trump again- however, i will add this- in the early counting it looks like Cruz is leading, and by a wide margin. so, this might be a surprise, but the polling doesn't show it. then again, neither did Iowa. thehayride.com/2016/03/the-louisiana-caucus-results-are-in-and-for-one-candidate-it-was-a-great-night/ME: Trump again. but i think Kasich might take 2nd, here. PR: Rubio, then Cruz, then ?. i would love to see Trump and his "Latino's love me" express come in last. since most of these are pretty strictly proportional, don't count on a knockout blow. it is POSSIBLE that Cruz gets more delegates in these (5) primaries, and if so, that would bode very well for him.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
PS- Trump's target for Monday morning is 374 delegates. i suspect he will be above that.
edit: he only needs 45 to hit that target, which is about 1/4 of total.
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Post by tallguy on Mar 5, 2016 15:55:40 GMT -5
I'd like to see Rand Paul do well, particularly since he is paying for it and all....
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2016 16:00:15 GMT -5
tg: i get bagged on all of the time for lacking perspective on Trump, so i am reluctant to say anything about his prospects. but it should be noted again that Trump has not done well in caucus states. so, although it is not LIKELY that there will be an unpleasant surprise (for Trump), it is possible, here.
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Post by tallguy on Mar 5, 2016 16:12:38 GMT -5
I get it. Trump doesn't appear from what I can see to have the organizational ground game needed to really capitalize on the caucus format. (I haven't studied him that in-depth so I may be wrong there.) Better for him in states that don't require as much from his supporters.
Still, I AM laughing at Rand Paul. Agreed to pay for the caucuses and didn't last nearly to them.
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