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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 11:18:39 GMT -5
a new IBD poll is out today. good polling agency. Kasich is +5% from the last survey, and Rubio is +8%. everyone else is the same:
Trump 33 +13 Cruz 20 +3 Rubio 17 +8 Kasich 9 +2
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 25, 2016 14:00:56 GMT -5
Yep, because they hated Trump and were out to bury him. i was talking about Halperin, but using your pronoun. Halperin doesn't want to bury Trump. more like marry him. serious fanboy.Since then, they basically have called it, except of course, for NBC which also owns MSNBC You are correct about CNN nailing it in the polls. Then after the Nevada caucus they spent hours on the air on what Republicans have to do to bury Trump on Super Tuesday....... right. them and everyone else. no bias there. Halperin is from Bloomberg News. He is actually fairly level headed. As far as Hillary, he is overly fair to her, imo. He does appear on Joe in the Morning regularily, on MSNBC and discusses both parties and the race for the Presidency. I suggest you try and watch the show once or twice. Joe and Mika called Trump a contender about over four months ago and warned everyone to take his campaign seriously. They were the first to say Trump could take the nomination. I think Mike Barnicle actually owes Mika a new pick up truck over this issue They had a bet about Trump last fall. Try watching them on MSNBC at 6am Eastern. I know it's early for you. Maybe tape them a couple of days.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 25, 2016 14:12:31 GMT -5
... Then after the Nevada caucus they spent hours on the air on what Republicans have to do to bury Trump on Super Tuesday....... Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I see what you are saying. Please note MSNBC and CNN do not have the ability to charge high rates for advertising. Their audience numbers suck. My question is, why they do not fill the time explaining what Trump has to do to maintain his momentum, or garner the nomination. It just shows how worried the elite of cable news are worried Trump might do something important. You know, make them all look like the idiots they are. Instead, they discuss how the party must destroy the front runner, who the Republican establishment dislikes and do not want him to win the nomination. Republican party mgmt did not plan the demise of Romney, nor McCain. Democrat establishment did not try to submarine Obama in 2008, not Hillary for that matter, nor did cable stations discuss how to destroy the party candidates. Exception was Fox of course, but most people here do not consider MSNBC OR CNN a clone of Fox. It does seem strange the cable networks spend way more time on the Republican race than the Democratic race, but that is where the action is this year.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 14:16:17 GMT -5
right. them and everyone else. no bias there. Halperin is from Bloomberg News. i was being serious. i don't think that CNN is biased on this, at all.He is actually fairly level headed. if you say so. his statements about Trump that i have read are bordering on stupid. he is not looking at the exit polling, imo. nor is he looking at states like Texas where Trump is very likely to lose. he is just making sensational statements, and he is utterly wrong.As far as Hillary, he is overly fair to her, imo. He does appear on Joe in the Morning regularily, on MSNBC and discusses both parties and the race for the Presidency. wasn't commenting on that. ONLY his comments on Trump.I suggest you try and watch the show once or twice. how? telepathically? i don't have cable, VB.Joe and Mika called Trump a contender about over four months ago and warned everyone to take his campaign seriously. They were the first to say Trump could take the nomination. Trump has been leading in the polls since July. there is no genius in that statement.I think Mike Barnicle actually owes Mika a new pick up truck over this issue They had a bet about Trump last fall. Try watching them on MSNBC at 6am Eastern. I know it's early for you. Maybe tape them a couple of days. tape? what is that? besides, what if Trump loses? all of your arguments for watching these geniuses will go down the toilet, along with their reputations.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 14:20:35 GMT -5
Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I see what you are saying. Please note MSNBC and CNN do not have the ability to charge high rates for advertising. Their audience numbers suck. My question is, why they do not fill the time explaining what Trump has to do to maintain his momentum, or garner the nomination. why should i be interested in that?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 25, 2016 14:23:11 GMT -5
Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I see what you are saying. Please note MSNBC and CNN do not have the ability to charge high rates for advertising. Their audience numbers suck. My question is, why they do not fill the time explaining what Trump has to do to maintain his momentum, or garner the nomination. ... My answer to your question is that their numbers would reach new levels of suckiness if they did because their few viewers don't want to hear that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 14:24:33 GMT -5
I see what you are saying. Please note MSNBC and CNN do not have the ability to charge high rates for advertising. Their audience numbers suck. My question is, why they do not fill the time explaining what Trump has to do to maintain his momentum, or garner the nomination. ... My answer to your question is that their numbers would reach new levels of suckiness if they did because their few viewers don't want to hear that. moreover, telling people the mechanics of winning a campaign is way less interesting IN GENERAL than bashing the shit out of someone. who cares how he wins the primary? REALLY. nobody can use that information other than TRUMP.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 18:15:07 GMT -5
there have been half a dozen polls out this week, and they are almost uniformly bad for Cruz.
the exception was one poll in TX that has him +15%, but all of the other state polls show him faring no better, or worse than a week ago.
the little campaign bump he got has hurt him way more than i expected. that, coupled with Trump's success....is a big problem for Cruz.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 20:44:07 GMT -5
... Then after the Nevada caucus they spent hours on the air on what Republicans have to do to bury Trump on Super Tuesday....... Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I'm not VB, but here's the answer to your question: The comings and goings of the various members of the Kardashian clan.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 25, 2016 21:01:37 GMT -5
Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I'm not VB, but here's the answer to your question: The comings and goings of the various members of the Kardashian clan.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 25, 2016 21:06:09 GMT -5
watching tonight's debate. Rubio and Cruz are pointing out detailed specifics on Trump's hypocrisy, and yet Trump is still getting the loudest cheers from the crowd. wtf is wrong with these people??
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 25, 2016 21:52:47 GMT -5
watching tonight's debate. Rubio and Cruz are pointing out detailed specifics on Trump's hypocrisy, and yet Trump is still getting the loudest cheers from the crowd. wtf is wrong with these people?? Those cheering are paasengers on Trump's ship of fools.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 25, 2016 21:55:38 GMT -5
what continues to baffle me is how ALL of the moderators, across all of the networks that have broadcasted debates, have allowed Trump to mutter "under his breath" unchecked as much as he has. it's ridiculous.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2016 22:37:38 GMT -5
Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I'm not VB, but here's the answer to your question: The comings and goings of the various members of the Kardashian clan. Tom Cruise's 3-headed love child.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 25, 2016 23:17:58 GMT -5
I agree with you all. CNN did a poor job not telling Trump to shut up. Others had some good points. I think Trump continued showing his arrogant narcissist personality. But when are his followers going to see it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 0:17:01 GMT -5
I agree with you all. CNN did a poor job not telling Trump to shut up. Others had some good points. I think Trump continued showing his arrogant narcissist personality. But when are his followers going to see it? Most of his followers DO see it. They like him FOR it.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 26, 2016 10:18:32 GMT -5
I agree with you all. CNN did a poor job not telling Trump to shut up. Others had some good points. I think Trump continued showing his arrogant narcissist personality. But when are his followers going to see it? Again, the moderators (actually just Wolf) allowed the debate to degenerate into the worst sort of a debate possible. Questions were directly stated to members to attack Trump all night. Only Kasich refused to take the bait. How you say no one told Trump to shut up, is just showing your hatred towards Trump. Trump was asked to respond to either Cruz or Rubio's statement, and when Trump opened his mouth either one or both started talking over him. All night. It was a tag team match. Rubio and Cruz even shook hands together behind Trump at the end of the night they were so happy with their selves. If Trump was smart, he would have stood there until Wolf would have to ask if he was going to respond, and Trump should have said" when you control your babbling monkeys to the right and left of me and let me state my response without the yelling". Guess what people? It will not hurt Trump on Super Tuesday. Might have helped him.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 26, 2016 10:30:03 GMT -5
Anyone notice how Trump has shifted to the middle on some issues? It looked like he is anticipating the nomination and focusing on winning some Democratic voter support for the fall election.
Israel and the ME. Rubio and Cruz brandished him a traitor to Israel and aligned Trump with Obama and Clinton, lol, because Trump wants to actually reach a peace accord. Who would have thought Trump was not the warmonger the dems claim him to be? Rubio and Cruz, not so much. Planned Parenthood-same thing. Trump is going for the woman vote, Rubio and Cruz to lose it. Obamacare, Trump for not letting people die in the streets over catastrophic illness, and Rubio and Cruz, let them die........ I tell you this race is over on Super Tuesday, and the fall election will be better than 2008, only Fox and WSJ will be aligned with Hillary, in attacking Trump. What a whacked out race this is.
Also, note, no mention of lawful immigration of Muslim based people. Nary a mention. As far as the wall with Mexico, and Rubio claiming Trump would build it with illegal immigrants, Trump should have responded, "Will you be there for the photo op when we lay the cornerstone brick in the wall in my first year in the Presidency?"
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 26, 2016 10:30:51 GMT -5
And the latest polls yesterday showed Trump increasing his leads in the Super Tuesday sectional......
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 26, 2016 10:34:57 GMT -5
Here is a challenge I offer you VB: what topic is there to fill the 24/7 airspace other than Trump that will bring in a large enough audience to satisfy advertisers? I'm not VB, but here's the answer to your question: The comings and goings of the various members of the Kardashian clan. That's a clan?
I thought the term Kardashian was some kind of foreign disease, or maybe a computer virus?
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 26, 2016 10:37:44 GMT -5
Of course he is. This is what amoral people do - change with the shifting winds.
Not to hard for him. He was pro choice before he was anti abortion, not too big of a leap to swap back.
Might be alarming for his evangelical voters, though.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 11:12:25 GMT -5
I agree with you all. CNN did a poor job not telling Trump to shut up. Others had some good points. I think Trump continued showing his arrogant narcissist personality. But when are his followers going to see it? Again, the moderators (actually just Wolf) allowed the debate to degenerate into the worst sort of a debate possible. Questions were directly stated to members to attack Trump all night. Only Kasich refused to take the bait. How you say no one told Trump to shut up, is just showing your hatred towards Trump. Trump was asked to respond to either Cruz or Rubio's statement, and when Trump opened his mouth either one or both started talking over him. All night. It was a tag team match. Rubio and Cruz even shook hands together behind Trump at the end of the night they were so happy with their selves. If Trump was smart, he would have stood there until Wolf would have to ask if he was going to respond, and Trump should have said" when you control your babbling monkeys to the right and left of me and let me state my response without the yelling". Guess what people? It will not hurt Trump on Super Tuesday. Might have helped him. then his voters are too stupid to be reasoned with. not our problem, i guess. from my standpoint, they really made him look like a dope last night.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 11:13:26 GMT -5
And the latest polls yesterday showed Trump increasing his leads in the Super Tuesday sectional...... that is not true, but why do you feel compelled to say it? are you worried, or are you trying to anger people?
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Post by Waffle on Feb 26, 2016 13:00:12 GMT -5
Chris Christie just endorsed Trump. I think my head's going to explode.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2016 13:19:41 GMT -5
Chris Christie just endorsed Trump. I think my head's going to explode. I think he is angling for the position of Secretary of Transportation.
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Post by Opti on Feb 26, 2016 13:21:21 GMT -5
Chris Christie just endorsed Trump. I think my head's going to explode. My head won't explode, but yikes!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 26, 2016 13:27:51 GMT -5
Most everyone wants to ride the coattails of a possible winner. Bigger and better jobs in the future.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 26, 2016 13:32:21 GMT -5
I thought Trump was going to pick Sarah Palin.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2016 13:34:57 GMT -5
I thought Trump was going to pick Sarah Palin. She would make a good Secretary of Health and Human Services with her personal family experience.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 14:53:34 GMT -5
Chris Christie just endorsed Trump. I think my head's going to explode. I think he is angling for the position of Secretary of Transportation. ok. that was hilarious.
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