Will this be it for Hillary?

[Value Buy]

Who knows?
The FBI has supposedly recovered the deleted e-mails off her server

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-said-to-recover-personal-e-mails-from-hillary-clinton-server/ar-AAeEfhs

Hopefully, we will finally get the answer both political sides have been waiting for.

[Deleted]

Maybe I missed something? I don't think I read what you read...

[Value Buy]

Sept 22, 2015 21:47:30 GMT -5 oped said:

Maybe I missed something? I don't think I read what you read...

Nothing has been released to the public yet.
It just stated they cracked the erased server and recovered the deleted e-mails.
When they are released, we will know whether she was honest.

[Deleted]

Sept 22, 2015 21:50:31 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sept 22, 2015 21:47:30 GMT -5 oped said:

Maybe I missed something? I don't think I read what you read...

Nothing has been released to the public yet.
It just stated they cracked the erased server and recovered the deleted e-mails.
When they are released, we will know whether she was honest.

She said there were no classified material on her server.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she didn't want to release all the emails because there were some between her and her husband.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she used her server to help with the fact she just carried one phone.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she was not subpoenaed.  We already know that was a lie.

Anyone who has paid any attention to her on this subject already knows she was not honest.

[Phoenix84]

Sept 22, 2015 22:21:28 GMT -5 @hickle said:

Sept 22, 2015 21:50:31 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nothing has been released to the public yet.
It just stated they cracked the erased server and recovered the deleted e-mails.
When they are released, we will know whether she was honest.

She said there were no classified material on her server.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she didn't want to release all the emails because there were some between her and her husband.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she used her server to help with the fact she just carried one phone.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she was not subpoenaed.  We already know that was a lie.

Anyone who has paid any attention to her on this subject already knows she was not honest.

And yet some
People still support her for president for some reason.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Sept 23, 2015 7:42:19 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Sept 22, 2015 22:21:28 GMT -5 @hickle said:

She said there were no classified material on her server.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she didn't want to release all the emails because there were some between her and her husband.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she used her server to help with the fact she just carried one phone.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she was not subpoenaed.  We already know that was a lie.

Anyone who has paid any attention to her on this subject already knows she was not honest.

And yet some
People still support her for president for some reason.

I don't support her for presidency based on other, more personal (and not political/rational) reasons; not the email/server stuff - or anything she did or didn't do as Secretary of State. 

[Waffle]

Sept 23, 2015 7:42:19 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Sept 22, 2015 22:21:28 GMT -5 @hickle said:

She said there were no classified material on her server.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she didn't want to release all the emails because there were some between her and her husband.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she used her server to help with the fact she just carried one phone.  We already know that was a lie.

She said she was not subpoenaed.  We already know that was a lie.

Anyone who has paid any attention to her on this subject already knows she was not honest.

And yet some
People still support her for president for some reason.

A lot of people aren't paying attention.

The lie that stands out in my mind came up the last time she ran for president.  That ridiculous story about being shot at as she got off of a plane.  To me that was a stupid lie - so easily checked on - I believe the news agencies even had film of the event - not shots of any kind.  And her "explanation" after the fact was the first time I heard somebody use the phrase "I misspoke" - I guess that's supposed to be better than "I lied". 

[Value Buy]

Sept 23, 2015 8:09:16 GMT -5 Waffle said:

Sept 23, 2015 7:42:19 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

And yet some
People still support her for president for some reason.

A lot of people aren't paying attention.

The lie that stands out in my mind came up the last time she ran for president.  That ridiculous story about being shot at as she got off of a plane.  To me that was a stupid lie - so easily checked on - I believe the news agencies even had film of the event - not shots of any kind.  And her "explanation" after the fact was the first time I heard somebody use the phrase "I misspoke" - I guess that's supposed to be better than "I lied". 

a lot of Democrats aren't paying attention.
Everyone else is.

[thyme4change]

"A Politician Lied"

 - more news at 11.

[Value Buy]

Sept 23, 2015 9:02:54 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

"A Politician Lied"

 - more news at 11.

Some Presidential hopefuls are vilified for their beliefs, while being honest about them.
Some Presidential hopefuls are vilified for their lies.

Who, in all honesty, should be chosen by it's citizens for the highest elected post in the nation?
I guess that is the real question.

A President can be boxed in, by hopefully Congress and the Supreme Court by pushing an agenda based on their publicly known beliefs.
A President lieing to the public is by nature of too many gullible people not recognizing the lies and reacting to them in a proper form.

[Deleted]

Sept 23, 2015 9:02:54 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

"A Politician Lied"

 - more news at 11.

Every one lies, you lie sometimes, I lie sometimes everyone does.  That does not mean it is okay to lie.  That does not mean someone who lies all the time should be thought of the same as someone who rarely lies.  Hillary Clinton is an inveterate liar.  It is how she deals with problems.  She tries to lie her way out of it.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 23, 2015 16:10:10 GMT -5 @hickle said:

Sept 23, 2015 9:02:54 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

"A Politician Lied"

 - more news at 11.

Every one lies, you lie sometimes, I lie sometimes everyone does.  That does not mean it is okay to lie.  That does not mean someone who lies all the time should be thought of the same as someone who rarely lies.  Hillary Clinton is an inveterate liar.  It is how she deals with problems.  She ties to lie her way out of it.

it really depends on the lie.  if i tell my mom she will be comfortable in the hospital, it will make her rest easier, even if i know it is untrue.

[Value Buy]

Sept 23, 2015 17:07:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Sept 23, 2015 16:10:10 GMT -5 @hickle said:

Every one lies, you lie sometimes, I lie sometimes everyone does.  That does not mean it is okay to lie.  That does not mean someone who lies all the time should be thought of the same as someone who rarely lies.  Hillary Clinton is an inveterate liar.  It is how she deals with problems.  She ties to lie her way out of it.

it really depends on the lie.  if i tell my mom she will be comfortable in the hospital, it will make her rest easier, even if i know it is untrue.

Now we are parsing white lies and the real hummdingers!

[Value Buy]

What was the line from Bill....
Define "it'.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 23, 2015 17:49:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sept 23, 2015 17:07:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it really depends on the lie.  if i tell my mom she will be comfortable in the hospital, it will make her rest easier, even if i know it is untrue.

Now we are parsing white lies and the real hummdingers!

not parsing at all.  i just object to the idea that all lying is wrong.

[thyme4change]

Lying is an essential skill.

[obelisk]

The measuring bar has been set to a new level!
Right or wrong!

[billisonboard]

Sept 23, 2015 17:51:13 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

What was the line from Bill....
Define "it'.

A much-quoted statement from Clinton's grand jury testimony showed him questioning the precise use of the word "is." Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".[4] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_and_acquittal_of_Bill_Clinton

[Deleted]

Sept 23, 2015 19:23:46 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Lying is an essential skill.

I think for it to be a skill you need to be better at it then she is.  She gets caught in her lies pretty often.

[Value Buy]

Sept 23, 2015 19:51:14 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 23, 2015 17:51:13 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

What was the line from Bill....
Define "it'.

A much-quoted statement from Clinton's grand jury testimony showed him questioning the precise use of the word "is." Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".[4] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_and_acquittal_of_Bill_Clinton

Thanks for the clarification!

[Value Buy]

Latest poll from Bloomberg news
Hillary 33%
Biden 25% 
Sanders 24%

And Biden is not even running yet!
No link yet.

[Tennesseer]

Easy to find a link.


The good, the bad and the ugly for Hillary Clinton in new poll

[OldCoyote]

Sept 23, 2015 18:15:31 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Sept 23, 2015 17:49:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Now we are parsing white lies and the real hummdingers!

not parsing at all.  i just object to the idea that all lying is wrong.

Boy DJ you really had to backup take a hard run at it to put that much spin on that.

[zibazinski]

Go Biden!

[Deleted]

Hillary crashing again?

[djAdvocate]

Sept 23, 2015 22:19:25 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Latest poll from Bloomberg news
Hillary 33%
Biden 25% 
Sanders 24%

And Biden is not even running yet!
No link yet.

this is an unsual poll in that Biden is polling at 25%, which is quite high for him.  i would describe it as an "outlier".

but here is something else to consider: biden is outpolling Hillary in head-to-head surveys with the GOP, too.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 26, 2015 19:07:46 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Sept 23, 2015 18:15:31 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

not parsing at all.  i just object to the idea that all lying is wrong.

Boy DJ you really had to backup take a hard run at it to put that much spin on that.

no spin at all.  i always say exactly what i mean.  if i am unclear, that is fault enough.