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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 16:30:27 GMT -5
I think the key to making money is mental. I make about $70k if I work full time and a little OT. I think if I could convince myself that I could make $150K and I really believed that, then I could. I would first start looking for what is working right now for me to get there, then look to what I need to add or change. The idea that I could not do that would not be there. So there are no excuses. It is like driving from point a to point b, if I get lost along the way, I figure out what to do, as I know there is some route there. If I were to earn $150k, I would figure out the route to do that. My problems are I cannot keep the idea that I want to make that much money, so I don't consistently try. And i don't believe what I need to believe. I have met lots of people with money, some much smarter then me, some dumber then me. I don't think it is luck, I think it is belief and persistence. I think belief and persistance are, kind of, options we all can take advantage of. The only thing stopping it are psychological road blocks and consistent desire. My thoughts, maybe I am wrong, idk.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Sept 25, 2015 22:23:23 GMT -5
Paul, you've said often that you weren't cut out to be a cube drone. So it shouldn't surprise you that not everyone is cut out to be like you--an entrepreneur. Different people have different talents and dispositions.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Sept 25, 2015 22:28:17 GMT -5
And some people are just content or lazy or mostly a combination of the 2. They don't feel that they have to work all the time to make more money just to spend. As long as they are saving enough for retirement and some wants they feel good about themselves. Working is just one way to make money- the lazy, unimaginative way. But hey- I have no problems with people's priorities. Just quitcherbitchin is all I have to say about it. My inlaws are like that. 3 adults, 2 of whom refuse to work. All kinds of money being spent on stupid crap. And they complain all the time about not having money, but balk at any suggestion to remedy it. Getting my kids away from these people was one of my reasons for moving 1300 miles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 10:17:09 GMT -5
Paul, you've said often that you weren't cut out to be a cube drone. So it shouldn't surprise you that not everyone is cut out to be like you--an entrepreneur. Different people have different talents and dispositions. Totally agree, our route was to get the necessary experience to make a lot of money in 8-10 hours every weekday so we can do whatever the heck we want the rest of the time. We also hire a house cleaning service because the money is worth the time. We also prefer to live "small" meaning a townhome and drive our cars to 200k, that is so we can take awesome vacations and save a ton of money to retire early. I'm sure if we wanted to we could take some of our leisure time to make more money to have the big house, the fancy cars and the pool but for us that isn't enjoying life, we can buy those experience any time we want without having the cost of owning them. To each their own, I admire folks that can make the entrepreneur route work but so many fail, for me it wasn't worth the risk.
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Post by Tiny on Sept 26, 2015 11:21:47 GMT -5
I always just say "im broke" when I don't want to do something. It's so much easier then explaining WHY I don't want to do it. "Sorry, can't this weekend, we're broke" OK, that is annoying as shit to me. Why do people feel the need to provide and explanation? A simple, "no" will do. If people get pushy with me, I simply say I have a prior commitment. If they push farther, I have no problem with saying, "Look, I didn't want to hurt your feelings so I have been trying to avoid telling you that I'm just not interested because I'd rather have a relaxing day at home, but since you won't let it go- there you have it". And yes, I have on more than one occasion said those very words. Yeah, the always needing an "excuse" drives me nuts. And for some people "no, thank you" is NOT an excuse so they keep pecking until they get an actual 'excuse'. So, usually it's easier to just automatically give an 'excuse'. Depending on the people I'm with - I might make an elaborate ultimate silly "excuse" it drives them nuts.
OK, sometimes (and in some situations) it's rude or potentially hurtful to give the actual reason so it's just safer to use an excuse. The rude or hurtful reason doesn't necessarily have to seem like an "attack" on the person... sometimes it's simply that people take it as "you don't like me or my stuff or my whatever -- because you don't want to do X with me, or admire my stuff, or getting gah gah over my stuff". I think this is human nature. Most people want to be surrounded by 'predictable' people - people who look like them, act like them, think and talk like them.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 27, 2015 23:16:53 GMT -5
Paul, you've said often that you weren't cut out to be a cube drone. So it shouldn't surprise you that not everyone is cut out to be like you--an entrepreneur. Different people have different talents and dispositions. Again, since this is a money board- I'm addressing the money issues. I don't personally care what people's priorities are, but if a person is going to complain, I'd like to know what they intend to do to address the complaint. My response to statements like "I'm broke" is always "What are you doing about it?".
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Sept 28, 2015 0:16:11 GMT -5
I heard somewhere that it's because people get manis, pedis, lattes, tattoos and new cars. What do I win?!
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Post by cronewitch on Sept 28, 2015 1:31:54 GMT -5
I have been reading articles about poor people some interviews and they seem to think things will never get better. A 23 year old man with a 3 year old son working at a retail store and fast food 10-60 hours a week. Trying hard to support himself and son but without unpredictable income and making $8 an hour it won't happen. He applies for other jobs and ask for $15 an hour and they won't give it to him. Seems pretty typical of modern poor people, kids before they have job skills then stuck in part time unskilled jobs. Some seem dim like the IQ is about 80-90 or they smoke pot or something but not sharp. One woman works fast food and blames the company for making a profit and not paying her more, never taking the idea she shouldn't have kids while working fast food. I just read of a family of 6 children who had parents working fast food. They aren't trying to improve but expect they will stay poor unless someone pays them more for the same work. A facebook person was asking for someone to give her and two kids a free room until November, her sec 8 is running out Oct 31 so she is hoping to find a place before her baby is born. She is unemployed, three kids and homeless soon, no job skills. I don't know her history but that is where she is now. Buying a blouse and selling at a few dollars profit isn't much help.
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Post by skubikky on Sept 28, 2015 6:49:36 GMT -5
Paul, you've said often that you weren't cut out to be a cube drone. So it shouldn't surprise you that not everyone is cut out to be like you--an entrepreneur. Different people have different talents and dispositions. Again, since this is a money board- I'm addressing the money issues. I don't personally care what people's priorities are, but if a person is going to complain, I'd like to know what they intend to do to address the complaint. My response to statements like "I'm broke" is always "What are you doing about it?". Well.....I get your point. You have a zero tolerance for this and you've explained it many times before. Understandable. People enjoy complaining. Most probably aren't willing or able to actually come up with a viable plan to change their situation. Very often it's excuses and laziness. Or just ignorance and resistance. You see a problem and act.....they see a problem and complain. Diametrically opposed responses. I question why you are surrounding yourself with those that either aren't bona fide "mentors" or willing "acolytes"?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 28, 2015 7:40:14 GMT -5
Again, since this is a money board- I'm addressing the money issues. I don't personally care what people's priorities are, but if a person is going to complain, I'd like to know what they intend to do to address the complaint. My response to statements like "I'm broke" is always "What are you doing about it?". Well.....I get your point. You have a zero tolerance for this and you've explained it many times before. Understandable. People enjoy complaining. Most probably aren't willing or able to actually come up with a viable plan to change their situation. Very often it's excuses and laziness. Or just ignorance and resistance. You see a problem and act.....they see a problem and complain. Diametrically opposed responses. I question why you are surrounding yourself with those that either aren't bona fide "mentors" or willing "acolytes"? Oh, I take care to surround myself with people I admire and look up to; but you can't flush everyone else. Some have been friends for years, and some we're related to.
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Post by Ombud on Sept 28, 2015 9:30:20 GMT -5
Oh, I take care to surround myself with people I admire and look up to; but you can't flush everyone else. Some have been friends for years, and some we're related to. So that!! Eldest sis was on the cusp of losing her house if harp didn't come thru. So mom gives her 10k. What did she do? Granite counters Received inheritance. It's 80% gone 3 yrs later Normally a DIYer but am hiring a contractor to: Paint home interior Replace window coverings, 2 light switches, 2 mirrors, br light Create and hang barn door Redo front yard
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