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Post by chen35 on Sept 16, 2015 12:22:15 GMT -5
The cookbooks are called Sneaky Chef. She has an entire line of cookbooks including one that is a mixture of recipes and tips to getting kids more physically active. I used them on DH b/c when we met he was the pickest eater on the planet. Overtime his pallette has adjusted (and my cooking is better lol) and he's come to love a lot of things he used to swear he hated and wouldn't eat even if his life depended on it. I still use a lot of her tricks. I found putting pumpkin/sweet potato puree into tomate based sauces helps with heartburn and is way better than adding sugar. I put ground flax seed into just about every ground meat dish I make. So it's been good for me too, especially when I was pregnant with Gwen and could barely stand to look at food let alone eat it. Do you use canned puree?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 12:22:34 GMT -5
Not even sure where to begin with the idea of white rice and chicken with sugar sauce.... come on, you have to know this is just a high calorie filler meal with almost no vitamin/mineral content and hugely high calories, right? And yummy. Don't forget, really, really yummy! Plus, there's pineapple and water chestnuts in the sweet and sour. That counts as a fruit/veggie right?
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Post by yogiii on Sept 16, 2015 12:23:31 GMT -5
Not even sure where to begin with the idea of white rice and chicken with sugar sauce.... come on, you have to know this is just a high calorie filler meal with almost no vitamin/mineral content and hugely high calories, right? And yummy. Don't forget, really, really yummy! Plus, there's pineapple and water chestnuts in the sweet and sour. That counts as a fruit/veggie right? milee just stroked out
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 12:24:02 GMT -5
I think they may be surprised at how much just cutting his milk consumption down is going to solve a lot of his problems including weight. And he was totally cool with this too, so I call it a win.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 16, 2015 12:27:02 GMT -5
I don't know how much milk is where you are but here it's almost $5 a gallon. So that's ten bucks a week you've saved that can be put toward healthier food.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 16, 2015 12:28:18 GMT -5
Do you use canned puree
Yes. I use pumpkin puree from a can and various baby foods b/c I just don't have the time with 2 kids and a full time job to be prepping my own. If I have time I like to though.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 16, 2015 12:30:13 GMT -5
A lot of puree's sound easy to make, but pumpkin isn't one of them. I'm going to try some canned puree in my next batch of spaghetti sauce! And maybe some flax in the ground turkey. I'm always trying to get the kids to try healthier things, but it's hard when they don't eat that way at their mom's house.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 12:32:17 GMT -5
I don't know how much milk is where you are but here it's almost $5 a gallon. So that's ten bucks a week you've saved that can be put toward healthier food. Only $2.19/gallon lately, but it can get to as high as $3.
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Post by milee on Sept 16, 2015 13:00:37 GMT -5
Not even sure where to begin with the idea of white rice and chicken with sugar sauce.... come on, you have to know this is just a high calorie filler meal with almost no vitamin/mineral content and hugely high calories, right? And yummy. Don't forget, really, really yummy! Plus, there's pineapple and water chestnuts in the sweet and sour. That counts as a fruit/veggie right? It is yummy. I like it, too. Not suggesting you cut out all this stuff and live on twigs and dirt, just that it might help to make a few substitutions since the oldest son is having some issues.
Hey, it's your diet and if it's working for you, then it's none of our business.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 13:09:52 GMT -5
And yummy. Don't forget, really, really yummy! Plus, there's pineapple and water chestnuts in the sweet and sour. That counts as a fruit/veggie right? It is yummy. I like it, too. Not suggesting you cut out all this stuff and live on twigs and dirt, just that it might help to make a few substitutions since the oldest son is having some issues.
Hey, it's your diet and if it's working for you, then it's none of our business.
Oh, older son won't eat sweet and sour or general taos'. No way. That's why I figured it must be good for you!
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Post by milee on Sept 16, 2015 13:16:31 GMT -5
It is yummy. I like it, too. Not suggesting you cut out all this stuff and live on twigs and dirt, just that it might help to make a few substitutions since the oldest son is having some issues.
Hey, it's your diet and if it's working for you, then it's none of our business.
Oh, older son won't eat sweet and sour or general taos'. No way. That's why I figured it must be good for you!
Of course!
I'm probably reacting fairly strongly to this topic not only because I was raised in a family that had poor eating habits, lots of obesity and health issues but never viewed any of it as connected but also because I have two sons and know that given what you've described about your older son and his age, you are quickly running out of some of the best time you'll ever have to teach him things or even have a strong influence on him.
He's smart, he's headstrong and he's used to getting his way - from what he eats to who refills his water glass. He's in Montessori middle school for one more year and then goes to public high school. When that starts, he will feel and act even more independent and less open to input from you and his father. As little influence and control as you think you have now, you will have even less at that point, and even less after that when he's 16 and driving.
The window of influence is closing, don't waste this last year. He's heading down a path that you can clearly see doesn't set him up for future health, so now is the time to figure it out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 13:46:00 GMT -5
I'm probably reacting fairly strongly to this topic not only because I was raised in a family that had poor eating habits, lots of obesity and health issues but never viewed any of it as connected but also because I have two sons and know that given what you've described about your older son and his age, you are quickly running out of some of the best time you'll ever have to teach him things or even have a strong influence on him.
And I'm probably thinking of my brothers that were the same way with eating and occasionally chubby growing up, then did fine. One of them is totally ripped. He seriously lifts weights for several hours a day and used to use my farm as a personal work out place where he would flip an 800 pound tire all afternoon, drag 250 pound chains and stuff like that. He STILL hates veggies, but will choke some down occasionally because he knows he has to, but he loathes them. Other brother moved to a remote cabin in Alaska and only eats what he can grow or kill now. Both were active, pre-internet kids. If they wanted to play video games they needed to save up their money and bike 8 miles to the arcade. DS is not burning calories off like they were.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 14:07:51 GMT -5
Pumpkin purée isn't that hard? Maybe we are taking about different things. ..
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Post by chen35 on Sept 16, 2015 14:12:50 GMT -5
Pumpkin purée isn't that hard? Maybe we are taking about different things. .. Okay, so I'm outing myself as totally lazy here, but I HATE cutting squash or pumpkin open. It's just a lot of work for not that much reward. ::Hangs head in shame::
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Post by milee on Sept 16, 2015 14:19:30 GMT -5
I'm probably reacting fairly strongly to this topic not only because I was raised in a family that had poor eating habits, lots of obesity and health issues but never viewed any of it as connected but also because I have two sons and know that given what you've described about your older son and his age, you are quickly running out of some of the best time you'll ever have to teach him things or even have a strong influence on him.
And I'm probably thinking of my brothers that were the same way with eating and occasionally chubby growing up, then did fine. One of them is totally ripped. He seriously lifts weights for several hours a day and used to use my farm as a personal work out place where he would flip an 800 pound tire all afternoon, drag 250 pound chains and stuff like that. He STILL hates veggies, but will choke some down occasionally because he knows he has to, but he loathes them. Other brother moved to a remote cabin in Alaska and only eats what he can grow or kill now. Both were active, pre-internet kids. If they wanted to play video games they needed to save up their money and bike 8 miles to the arcade. DS is not burning calories off like they were. Definitely the different levels of activity plays a factor.
But you're also ignoring the fact that your son only gets half of his genes from you. The other half is from his father. Isn't his father a diabetic? Think about what all those carbs would do to a diabetic or someone who has a predisposition to develop diabetes. And yes, I understand that there's a difference between Type I and Type II diabetes and your son doesn't have Type I like his father does. But if he keeps eating the way he does and not getting any physical activity, he'll be well on his way to getting Type II. His diet of way too many simple carbs is putting a huge strain on his system. Right now, the outward manifestation is chub and high blood pressure, but long term, the result is his body failing to produce the insulin he needs to deal with the overload... diabetes. There's also growing thought that it's not fat that causes heart disease, it's excess simple carbs.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Sept 16, 2015 14:32:43 GMT -5
I eat white rice. But only when there's sauce to soak up, like in Asian cuisine. And often I use whole wheat noodles instead. Or the frozen brown rice from Trader Joe's.
The way you're using it is just as a "filler" as described. I forgot about mushrooms, that's a much better replacement for "bulk." The "bulk" should come from vegetables and small amounts of sausage and cheese for flavor.
And total agreement about the pretend whole wheat foods. Always check.
Honestly, one of the best meals I make is just pureed vegetable soup. Just chop up everything you got and cook it on the stove, then use my immersion blender on it. Add some diced bacon at the end, or add curry powder with a dab of yogurt. It's a great base, full of vitamins and nutrition, and can use up some veggies that don't look so appealing! If you want it thick add a potato or two instead of cream, or you can actually use soft tofu.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 16, 2015 14:36:39 GMT -5
Pumpkin purée isn't that hard?
If I wanted to locate sugar pumpkins, bake them, scrape them and then blend it till smooth sure it's not that much work.. or I can buy cans dirt cheap this time of year and have all the work done for me. I figure I am not committing that big of a sin if the majority of Foodnetwork chefs admit they also use canned pumpkin rather than make it themselves.
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Post by swamp on Sept 16, 2015 14:48:42 GMT -5
Pumpkin purée isn't that hard?
If I wanted to locate sugar pumpkins, bake them, scrape them and then blend it till smooth sure it's not that much work.. or I can buy cans dirt cheap this time of year and have all the work done for me. I figure I am not committing that big of a sin if the majority of Foodnetwork chefs admit they also use canned pumpkin rather than make it themselves. Even Martha Stewart uses canned pumpkin because real pumpkin isn't worth the work.
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Post by swamp on Sept 16, 2015 14:50:57 GMT -5
But I think there is something with the carbs and ill health.
I've always been "thick", stocky, heavy, whatever you want to call it. Athletic and strong, but chunky.
In my early 20's, I was told to eat lots of carbs, avoid fats. I did. I gained a bunch of weight, stopped having periods, my cholesterol went through the roof.
I now tend to eat more protein and fat with complex carbs. My weight evened out, my period is back, my cholesterol is normal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 15:16:39 GMT -5
I don't know. Do you use long neck pumpkins? I pealed and chunked two the other day watching tv. Put them on low/med on the top of the stove in big pot with little water. Stirred them 3-4 times until they were soft and then used my immersion blender.
Worst parts were 1) had to scrub pumpkin residue off my hands and 2) I got a nice spatter burn on my chest
But then, if I was working full time maybe I'd skip it? Hard to tell...
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Post by The Captain on Sept 16, 2015 15:17:53 GMT -5
I don't know. Do you use long neck pumpkins? I pealed and chunked two the other day watching tv. Put them on low/med on the top of the stove in big pot with little water. Stirred them 3-4 times until they were soft and then used my immersion blender. Worst parts were 1) had to scrub pumpkin residue off my hands and 2) I got a nice spatter burn on my chest But then, if I was working full time maybe I'd skip it? Hard to tell... Do you strain the puree or something? The one time I tried making my own it was stringy...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 15:31:17 GMT -5
I don't. I just blend the cr@p out of it I do use long neck pumpkin. They by nature aren't as stringy, and they have more solid pumpkin per area to be skinned, if that makes sense.
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Post by gooddecisions on Sept 16, 2015 16:04:48 GMT -5
I agree with archie, sign him up for football. Tell him to give it a chance for a season. I didn't even know what a rugby ball looked like before I started playing in college. With practice, he will learn how to throw, catch and run faster. 2-3 hours of practice 4-5 days/week should take care of any issues being too sedentary.
And then you both have to give it a fair chance. I ate my fair share of garbage as a kid, but my parents signed me up for sports so I was never even a pound overweight- track and softball year round. I've actually given my parents a hard time for not forcing me to join more sports. I would love to be a decent tennis player and would be if they made me join a team as a kid!
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 16, 2015 16:09:24 GMT -5
As the kid who would have made your life miserable if you signed me up for a sport I was less than enthused by, I disagree.
As the mom who was miserable for a year of a sport my kid did want to sign up for but discovered he didn't like (but finished out because that's what you do) I also disagree.
As a person who hates being "made" to do anything if I don't want to do it, I disagree.
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Post by t-dog on Sept 16, 2015 17:50:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I wonder how he does that? I should ask DS's Dad. He's a network guru and shuts down his entire house remotely when I call him and say I want to kill the kid again. It's not that hard, assuming you have the admin login to your router. Most are set to DHCP by default. That means when some device in your house tries to connect to your home network it assigns that device a random IP address from a preset pool. When I set up our home network I turned that off. Instead I assigned a specific IP address to each device. Then in the rules tab on the router I made one rule that doesn't allow internet connection to the kid's devices by specifically blocking their IP addresses. I can log into the router from my phone and enable/disable that rule in about ten seconds. I speak English and I am pretty sure the above is written in Greek. I would need my 12 year old to decode this and that would defeat the purpose. With my luck he'd lock me out of the home wifi.
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Post by milee on Sept 16, 2015 19:56:26 GMT -5
It's not that hard, assuming you have the admin login to your router. Most are set to DHCP by default. That means when some device in your house tries to connect to your home network it assigns that device a random IP address from a preset pool. When I set up our home network I turned that off. Instead I assigned a specific IP address to each device. Then in the rules tab on the router I made one rule that doesn't allow internet connection to the kid's devices by specifically blocking their IP addresses. I can log into the router from my phone and enable/disable that rule in about ten seconds. I speak English and I am pretty sure the above is written in Greek. I would need my 12 year old to decode this and that would defeat the purpose. With my luck he'd lock me out of the home wifi. Yeah, this is the sort of information that my boys have taken to discussing with me in slow, patient tones like I'm mentally challenged.
Was discussing this at the bus stop just this week with a friend. She graduated a couple of years ahead of me at the same magnet high school I went to, then she went to Harvard, her oldest two children are also going to Harvard (one's already been on Jeopardy) and she's a cardiac surgeon. So she's reasonably intelligent. And when I told her about how my sons are starting to treat me like a "special" case, she burst out laughing and said she was relieved to hear that because her sons talk to her like that, too.
Just because we don't know how to remotely control the router doesn't mean we're not people, too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 20:01:18 GMT -5
I was thinking that my router does have an admin... Son. And I'd have to ask him for the login
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 16, 2015 20:14:03 GMT -5
I've taken a bunch of IT classes--about 12 years ago. Now the stuff just makes my eyes gloss over. I think the main thing it requires is patience, when i just want stuff to work, dammit! Doing special things requires more work, and you might-- who am i kidding--probably will screw something else up because that shit never seems to work right the first time, even if you follow directions exactly.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Sept 16, 2015 23:32:49 GMT -5
Wait! So no one is eating rice, bread, cereal and pasta anymore ??
What DO you eat and more importantly - what do you feed your children??
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