What are your thoughts on Daylight Savings Time

[Politically_Incorrect12]

Personally I don't really see the need for it to be daylight at 10pm in the summers and around 5-5:30pm in the winter.

[henryclay]

When my three were catching the bus for school the whole state stayed on DST one year. The kids were standing beside a highway in the dark waiting for the bus all winter. There were some tragedies and parents were up in arms. If for no other reason I'm in favor of DST only in the summer months.

I think Arizona nevefr goes on DST. Maybe other states, too.

[Deleted]

I think it's just another one of those things we keep doing that has outlived it's purpose. No need for it.

[vonnie6200]

I loved it when I worked - now that I am retired it does not matter to me one way or the other.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 12, 2011 3:35:27 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

Personally I don't really see the need for it to be daylight at 10pm in the summers and around 5-5:30pm in the winter.

Move further south if you don't like daylight at 10 p.m. Where I live, the latest the sun sets in the summer is around 8:20 p.m.

As you get closer to the equator, sunrise and sunset times are consistent year round.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 12, 2011 19:01:20 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

I think it's just another one of those things we keep doing that has outlived it's purpose. No need for it.

My electricity bill goes down in the summer time. No need to turn on house lights until later in the day.

[Bluerobin]

Makes as much sense as it did in 1972 when Nixon implemented year round DST to save energy. Yep cut off an hour from one end of a day and put it on the other. We should just leave it one way or the other. What an assinine concept!

[Bluerobin]

tough, the US no longer has industry!

[henryclay]

Actually, DST has has been around for some time, with the first known widespread use being during WWI, and some historians saying the Romans also used it.

In modern times, when Benjamin Franklin spent so many years as an envoy to France he suggested they use it as a means of saving candle wax. (Sorry, nit pickers, I don't know if they accepted his offer.)

Here in a map of places that use or don't use DST. Blue represents users, yellow has used it but do not now, and there is apparentl no record of red areas ever having used it. In the US, Hawaii and Arizona do not make the conversion. [Source: Wikipedia]

[mmhmm]

It doesn't bother me. I work nights. Sometimes, I go to work in the dark, sometimes I don't. I just have to remember to reset the darned clocks! ;D

[kadee]

Modern DST was first proposed by the New Zealand entomologist George Vernon Hudson, whose shift-work job gave him leisure time to collect insects, and made him aware of the value of after-hours daylight.[2] In 1895 he presented a paper to the Wellington Philosophical Society proposing a two-hour daylight-saving shift,[18] and after considerable interest was expressed in Christchurch, New Zealand he followed up in an 1898 paper.[19] Many publications incorrectly credit DST's invention to the prominent English builder and outdoorsman William Willett,[20] who independently conceived DST in 1905 during a pre-breakfast ride, when he observed with dismay how many Londoners slept through a large part of a summer's day.[21] An avid golfer, he also disliked cutting short his round at dusk.[22] His solution was to advance the clock during the summer months, a proposal he published two years later.[23] The proposal was taken up by the Liberal Member of Parliament (MP) Robert Pearce, who introduced the first Daylight Saving Bill to the House of Commons on 12 February 1908.[24] A select committee was set up to examine the issue, but Pearce's bill did not become law, and several other bills failed in the following years. Willett lobbied for the proposal in the UK until his death in 1915.

Starting on 30 April 1916, Germany and its World War I allies were the first to use DST (ger.: Sommerzeit) as a way to conserve coal during wartime. Britain, most of its allies, and many European neutrals soon followed suit. Russia and a few other countries waited until the next year and the United States adopted it in 1918. Since then, the world has seen many enactments, adjustments, and repeals.[25

So it was invented a LONG time ago!

I don't like the changing....do one or the other & STAY there!

And the farm thing...it wasn't so the farmer's could get the crops out of the field, so to speak, it was so they could have the advantage of having the kids home from school during more daylight hours to help get the crops out of the fields + other chores!
And there have been many, many other excuses over the years for the reasons to use DLS time, mostly to do with children boarding buses, school, etc.

[formerexpat]

I hate losing an hour in the spring but quickly forget about it and look forward to the hour I'll gain in 6 months.

[deziloooooo]

Mar 13, 2011 8:45:58 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

Sure it makes sense if you are not located too far South or North where the extreme changes in day length render it moot. In the right areas, like New York City, it makes sure that the majority of the work day occurs when there is natural day-light.

That is essential when you have heavy industry like electroplating. It means that the homes and offices are dark just when the utilities have to produce power for factories that work at night. This evens out demand and maximizes power efficiency.

Daylight savings has zippo to do with farming, much of which starts at 4am anyway. It is to assist power-eating heavy industry.

I allways though it was because of the farming industry, interesting new fact I didn't know, if true, arent forums great for learning things. ;D

[henryclay]

MSN has a link about DST, including the origins, who it favors, the different rationales, etc. I looked at a few. Amazingly I found Anerican farmers are not that enamored with, or in favor of, DST. The blogger said trhey were idiots. A farmer responded and offered this:

"Dear Cecil:
As a farmer, I resent being called an idiot. The reason we are against daylight saving time is that our crops can't stand the extra hour of sun in the dry part of the year. They burn up and wilt. --J. Bass, Dallas, Texas ........."

[deziloooooo]

Mar 13, 2011 12:19:01 GMT -5 henryclay said:

MSN has a link about DST, including the origins, who it favors, the different rationales, etc. I looked at a few. Amazingly I found Anerican farmers are not that enamored with, or in favor of, DST. The blogger said trhey were idiots. A farmer responded and offered this:

"Dear Cecil:
As a farmer, I resent being called an idiot. The reason we are against daylight saving time is that our crops can't stand the extra hour of sun in the dry part of the year. They burn up and wilt. --J. Bass, Dallas, Texas ........."

;D

[Tennesseer]

The farmer's crops would have received the extra hour of sun regardless of daylight savings time (DST). DST does not increase the amount of daylight.

On December 21, 2010 in Memphis, the sun rose at 7:04 am and set at 4:52 pm for a total of 9 hours and 47 minutes of daylight. On June 21 2011 in Memphis, the sun will rise 5:46 am and set at 8:17 pm. for a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight. Eliminate DST, and the sun would rise at 4:46 am and set at 7:17 pm. Junes 21 would still have a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight.

[workpublic]

i thought it was for chicken farmers. something to do with the egg laying

[deziloooooo]

Mar 13, 2011 12:38:05 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The farmer's crops would have received the extra hour of sun regardless of daylight savings time (DST). DST does not increase the amount of daylight.

On December 21, 2010 in Memphis, the sun rose at 7:04 am and set at 4:52 pm for a total of 9 hours and 47 minutes of daylight. On June 21 2011 in Memphis, the sun will rise 5:46 am and set at 8:17 pm. for a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight. Eliminate DST, and the sun would rise at 4:46 am and set at 7:17 pm. Junes 21 would still have a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight.

You so smart for a moderaor...impressive, how long did it take you to figure that out. Thanks for the explanation, on second thought you probably stopped six responses discussing this phenomenon. ;D

[Tennesseer]

dezi-I didn't know the farmer tale was a joke. I thought the poster was serious with the story.

Google is my friend so it took no time at all to figure it out.

[deziloooooo]

Mar 14, 2011 21:59:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

dezi-I didn't know the farmer tale was a joke. I thought the poster was serious with the story.

Google is my friend so it took no time at all to figure it out.

Funny, he got ya then...good one. Truth be rold, I had to think a minute, ok, a bit, but at least didn't have to use the google.

[floridayankee]

Mar 14, 2011 21:55:15 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Mar 13, 2011 12:38:05 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The farmer's crops would have received the extra hour of sun regardless of daylight savings time (DST). DST does not increase the amount of daylight.

On December 21, 2010 in Memphis, the sun rose at 7:04 am and set at 4:52 pm for a total of 9 hours and 47 minutes of daylight. On June 21 2011 in Memphis, the sun will rise 5:46 am and set at 8:17 pm. for a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight. Eliminate DST, and the sun would rise at 4:46 am and set at 7:17 pm. Junes 21 would still have a total of 14 hours and 31 minutes of daylight.

You so smart for a moderaor...impressive, how long did it take you to figure that out. Thanks for the explanation, on second thought you probably stopped six responses discussing this phenomenon. ;D

It's not magic dezi.....it's common sense. From any given location on any given day, that ball of fire is only going to take so much time to cross from one horizon to the other even if you do not own a clock.

[Frappuccino]

I had a rough morning yesterday (Monday) because of the time change, but I am over it now.