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Post by tallguy on Aug 8, 2015 10:15:24 GMT -5
Shouldn't the question be, "Why did I ever START Facebook?"
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Post by moon/Laura on Aug 8, 2015 10:36:41 GMT -5
How is Facebook any different than trying to correct all the WRONG opinions on message boards?? Lol This is the second time I've seen you say something about "wrong opinions". Opinions are not the same as facts, so how can they be wrong? Your opinion is simply different from theirs.
That said, I also find it irritating when I start seeing the same "factual" post show up all over the place. If I go to snopes and find out it's false, I'll say so, with a link. I don't know why people can't do a simple veracity check first. I think it's kind of like bible quotes. A person feels a certain way about something, and nothing is going to change their mind. So, they quote whatever they can find that backs that feeling up, even if it's out of context or completely misrepresented.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 8, 2015 11:23:05 GMT -5
I had to resist the urge to reply to a friend who posted probably the same article about gardasil you're referring to...something about Lead Gardasil Creator Confesses to Clear Conscience. Facebook makes it very easy since as soon as you click an article and come back- right below it are "similar" articles. So, right underneath that article were several articles claiming none of it was true. It was even debunked on snopes. I just roll my eyes, take a deep breath and move on. Do you have a link for this? i went to a seminar put on by the person who developed it....how he did it and he showed a lot of data. It would be interesting to see what they claim.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 11:57:27 GMT -5
I don't spend a lot of time on Facebook partly because of stuff like this. I'll pop in when I get tagged and there are a couple private groups I'll check out, but for the most part, I just post the occasional kid or chicken pic and come back to the boards. The planned parenthood craze lately is really getting old.
I suppose I should take the time to go through my list and unfollow all the ones that post non-stop religion, conspiracy theories, whacked out news and political attacks (I don't care which side), but I'm too lazy. Easier to just not go there.
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Post by dannylion on Aug 8, 2015 12:11:41 GMT -5
I don't spend a lot of time on Facebook partly because of stuff like this. I'll pop in when I get tagged and there are a couple private groups I'll check out, but for the most part, I just post the occasional kid or chicken pic and come back to the boards. The planned parenthood craze lately is really getting old. I suppose I should take the time to go through my list and unfollow all the ones that post non-stop religion, conspiracy theories, whacked out news and political attacks (I don't care which side), but I'm too lazy. Easier to just not go there. I did that some time ago, and it improved the Facebook experience immensely. I don't mind seeing comments from people with sincerely held beliefs or political opinions that differ from mine, and people who share things like that are certainly welcome in my online life as it adds interest and makes me think. I had to get rid of the crazies and ranters, though, and the end-of-the-world predictors and whatnot.
I do appreciate the opportunity Facebook has provided to maintain contact with what family I have and to reconnect with old friends. I was thrilled when I discovered a couple of groups for members of the Air Force squadrons I served with and the Air Force tech school where I was trained as well as groups for women veterans. At this time of my life, I appreciate the opportunity to look back at the significant experiences of my life and interact with others with similar experiences.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 8, 2015 12:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 13:26:54 GMT -5
I know what you mean. I've got a former HS classmate whom I considered my academic equal but her debating/reasoning skills aren't worth a dime. She always falls back on emotional statements, inflammatory language and hammering home whatever point is on HER agenda rather than addressing a point I made. I think I shut her up for awhile after I did some calculations with stats presented by someone SHE agreed with to prove the point *I* was making.
I've decided what I'm going to do in the next volley on Planned parenthood, though. When I find the most illogical, emotional argument, whether it's from her or some friend of a friend I don't know, I'm going to thank them for winning my "silliest post on this subject" competition and I'm going to make a $1,000 donation to Planned parenthood in honor of the occasion. And then I'm going to do it.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Aug 8, 2015 14:19:11 GMT -5
We need a grassroots voting effort to make sensible people vote then... Maybe Just Say No to Electrolytes! I think that all the smart, young, sensible people out there need to have more kids and raise them not to be ignoramusses(sp??). ? Maybe i shouldn't go there...ahem back to Duggarland and all.
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Post by mroped on Aug 8, 2015 14:37:52 GMT -5
I love it when my FB friends post dumb stuff or wacko ideas. Gives me a chance to be sarcastic and sometimes just plain out make fun of them. Just the other day, one of them posted the Tenth Commendments and I told her she is a pagan since she keeps the Sunday's Holly and not the Sabath. Her reply was: you are right! How come I didn't realize that?
Just goes to show that sometimes people do things just because the person next to them did it or that's how grandpa did it. Understanding issues for themselves is out of question.
Also there are those that are so far gone that even if you try there is no chance of getting through. Unfortunately, those we just have to tolerate.
Quiting FB wouldn't be an option because some of my so called "friends" I'd rather see how they think or what's new in their life on my screen than have them call me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 14:41:02 GMT -5
Shouldn't the question be, "Why did I ever START Facebook?" I have relatives in Romania, ex foreign exchange students, and, well family here I like to keep up with but not, you know, talk to I do like pictures of food and kids... The thing is, Facebook is just the format that makes the object of my concerns visible. I can ignore, but it's still there...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 14:51:33 GMT -5
Athena, I was donating a set amount for every anti pp post people put on Facebook that showed on my thread. But a person could go broke that way...
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 8, 2015 15:46:03 GMT -5
I just did this for DH. He has a cousin that he loves very much but she had a daughter that died from cancer. Very sad. She also has a son that basically got ignored and has since moved out and on with his life without her in it. Nevertheless she posts continuously about various cancer causes and her Deceased DD. He just can't handle it. So I told him he can unfollow without unfriending or he can simply remove every post that involves her causes and they won't appear again. He chose that and I just got done blocking every post from her that doesn't involve happy things. Like her Mom's birthday celebration.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 8, 2015 15:52:28 GMT -5
Now if I can just stop people from inviting me to play stupid games like candy crush life would be good. Wth is wrong with people advertising to the world how moronic they are? If I played dumb games I'd never admit it.
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Post by dannylion on Aug 8, 2015 15:59:08 GMT -5
Now if I can just stop people from inviting me to play stupid games like candy crush life would be good. Wth is wrong with people advertising to the world how moronic they are? If I played dumb games I'd never admit it. I'm pretty sure you can block those requests, but I've forgotten how. Apparently no one new on my friends list has started playing those games since I blocked the ones who did, so I have no idea how to do it now.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 8, 2015 16:14:57 GMT -5
Rats. If you ever remember pm me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 17:13:06 GMT -5
Even if you do play particular games, you can hover over an objectionable post till you see an arrow at the upper right corner. Click on it and one option is to hide all references to that game- by anyone.
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Post by dannylion on Aug 8, 2015 17:32:31 GMT -5
Even if you do play particular games, you can hover over an objectionable post till you see an arrow at the upper right corner. Click on it and one option is to hide all references to that game- by anyone. This sounds familiar. I think this might be how I stopped getting the game notices.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Aug 8, 2015 18:23:52 GMT -5
How is Facebook any different than trying to correct all the WRONG opinions on message boards?? Lol This is the second time I've seen you say something about "wrong opinions". Opinions are not the same as facts, so how can they be wrong? Your opinion is simply different from theirs.
That said, I also find it irritating when I start seeing the same "factual" post show up all over the place. If I go to snopes and find out it's false, I'll say so, with a link. I don't know why people can't do a simple veracity check first. I think it's kind of like bible quotes. A person feels a certain way about something, and nothing is going to change their mind. So, they quote whatever they can find that backs that feeling up, even if it's out of context or completely misrepresented. Yeah, the same guy who posts the religious memes also shared a picture of a burned infant about a month ago. The post said FB would donate $ for every share. Now, it's never true that FB, Bill Gates, Zuckerman, etal will donate for shares. I found the Snopes item refuting that particular post, and put up the link. The guy thanked me. Then he shared the same burned infant a couple of days ago.
Still not true, dude.
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Post by luckyme on Aug 8, 2015 21:29:39 GMT -5
Now if I can just stop people from inviting me to play stupid games like candy crush life would be good. Wth is wrong with people advertising to the world how moronic they are? If I played dumb games I'd never admit it. Actually, I think the only value to FB is the games. I had to create a FB page to access a parents website for DS's college. I didn't even use my real name. Picked 2 random names from DD's friend list. My one friend said it sounded like something a porn star would use.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 9, 2015 7:00:19 GMT -5
What's funny to me is that a lot of young people have two FB pages. One that's very general and the other that's very personal. DS says potential employers ask or look up your FB page and he didn't want them to see him wearing leopard leggings drinking out of a huge trophy at the kickball championship! I didn't want to see that either
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Post by moon/Laura on Aug 9, 2015 10:35:17 GMT -5
When people see things like "Christians are the worst people I've ever met" it opens a door for them to form an opinion though... Yes. But it's still an opinion, which can't be wrong. The statement about Christians might be true to THAT PERSON, but that's it. It carries no weight.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Aug 9, 2015 10:43:13 GMT -5
Now if I can just stop people from inviting me to play stupid games like candy crush life would be good. Wth is wrong with people advertising to the world how moronic they are? If I played dumb games I'd never admit it. I'm pretty sure you can block those requests, but I've forgotten how. Apparently no one new on my friends list has started playing those games since I blocked the ones who did, so I have no idea how to do it now. You can hide any or all game requests in your profile settings.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Aug 9, 2015 17:16:53 GMT -5
I like FB for two reasons:
1. It's the only way I hear about my extended family since mom is gone 2. I've reconnected with high school classmates and we have mini reunions that are really fun
I do hide all the people who post the pictures of the tortured animals and only that and several other topics. I have all game requests blocked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 18:33:19 GMT -5
I am still sort of a FB newbie but I have discovered the magical "keep your friends but lose their crap" setting where I can stay friends and even follow them but not see all their friends, fantasies, follies and freaky causes. My page is so pathetic b/c I don't think folks will give a damn about my every thought or bowel action.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Aug 9, 2015 20:33:55 GMT -5
My news feed used to be a lot of drama, but now it is mostly animals and vacation pictures. I like that little drop box in the corner of the posts.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 10, 2015 3:19:48 GMT -5
I really don't understand what any of this has to do wth Gardasil but alrighty then! "Celebration of our superior intellect" thread for the week of Aug 2.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 10, 2015 4:20:36 GMT -5
You realize that your article "refuting it" doesn't attempt to refute the core claims? The author admits that Dr. Harper became "disillusioned" with Gardasil (although was apparently still supportive of alternative compounds) and that she spoke at an anti-vaccine conference in Rome. It also mentions several of her concerns about the effectiveness of the vaccine, and about its effect in providing a false sense of security. The rest is quibbling over the distinction between "developer" and "trial researcher", and inchoate rambling about how much the author despises the anti-vaccine movement. Hence, regardless of how we feel about vaccines, should your Facebook colleagues "unfriend" you for passing on a clearly substandard debunking article, or should they read the article, come to their own conclusions about its merit, and forgive your oversight? What about me? I have arguments shut down with "You're not going to change anybody's mind on the subject." every week of the year on YMAM. Should I conclude that my opponents are intellectually lazy, or instead that they lack the time and patience to carry out a protracted argument? When I tell somebody "We're not going to agree on the subject." or "You're not going to change people's minds on the subject." right off the bat, it's usually a stand-in for "You obviously don't realize how deep and nuanced the issue is, and that I have no interest in debating it on this forum." Especially with contentious individuals like oped (yes, I realize it takes one to know one ) where I can be certain that defending my position will raise all kinds of hell and require a great deal of effort. If this is the case with oped's Facebook friend, should (s)he "unfriend" oped because oped isn't reading between the lines? oped: FWIW, my view is that if you find a Facebook contact to be physically or morally threatening, "unfriend" them. If not, read what they have to say, post rebuttal articles as you're so moved, and accept that Facebook is not a forum for debate. If you have too few contacts left to make your Facebooking socially, intellectually, and/or spiritually profitable to you, get rid of Facebook. Also, the "woe is me; people are morons" attitude never helped anybody. We should all limit how much we indulge in it. tallguy's question in Reply #30 is also worth thinking over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 8:04:20 GMT -5
www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/gardasil.aspHere is what I used in reply Virgil. It very much does refute the claims. I have some of the same questions as Dr Harper actually. That vaccines can't make us feel invincible and change our other prevention practices. And mainly that in our country where we have pretty much erradicated cervical cancer with proper screenings, it doesn't move that metric much if any, particularly in general population. However, since there is also warts, throat, mouth, etc cancers involved... This is a topic that can be debated. But using misinformation and false data and conclusions is no way to form an opinion or influence people to do so. Its possible for either side to make an honest choice that is opposite the other. But the choice being forwarded in the original article is not honest. My kids final health project last year was to research and make their own decision about G and believe me, I was ready as always to play devil's advocate, but as I've also taught them how to research sources and couldn't find anything they thought was legitimate to raise objections test mattered to them (and since they are older and have always individually tolerated vaccines well) they have both decided to get the vaccine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 8:06:13 GMT -5
I already answered tall guy #30.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 10, 2015 8:28:49 GMT -5
DARK!!!! YOU'RE HOME! WOOOHOOO Sum Dum Gai Seriously, it's good to "see" you again.
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