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Post by tallguy on Aug 19, 2015 22:40:58 GMT -5
True, but so what? Life happens, and sometimes bad things happen. That is far different from making a bad thing policy. I'll agree with your principle though. Suicide (or other manner of death) would be an effective way to evade responsibility for one's actions. Seems a little drastic to me though....
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2015 22:52:14 GMT -5
True, but so what? Life happens, and sometimes bad things happen. That is far different from making a bad thing policy. I'll agree with your principle though. Suicide (or other manner of death) would be an effective way to evade responsibility for one's actions. Seems a little drastic to me though.... well, it is. but given that the man has no say in any of this, he might as well be dead.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 19, 2015 23:03:42 GMT -5
Tell you what then. I'll agree to your proposal if that is the condition for acceptance of the man's choice.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2015 23:05:05 GMT -5
Tell you what then. I'll agree to your proposal if that is the condition for acceptance of the man's choice. it's nice to know you care, bro.
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 20, 2015 9:01:35 GMT -5
So... everyone can screw like rabbits, unwilling moms can abort away, unwilling dads can suicide away, and at long last we've produced a YMAM debate thread that reached consensus by the end. A job well done.
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Post by swamp on Aug 20, 2015 9:30:10 GMT -5
So... everyone can screw like rabbits, unwilling moms can abort away, unwilling dads can suicide away, and at long last we've produced a YMAM debate thread that reached consensus by the end. A job well done. whether you like it or not, people do screw like rabbits. abortions happen. suicides happen. Not everyone likes it, but it's reality.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 20, 2015 9:35:30 GMT -5
So... everyone can screw like rabbits, unwilling moms can abort away, unwilling dads can suicide away, and at long last we've produced a YMAM debate thread that reached consensus by the end. A job well done. whether you like it or not, people do screw like rabbits. abortions happen. suicides happen. Not everyone likes it, but it's reality. I accept it as reality. But indeed put me down as one of the ones who doesn't like it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 20, 2015 9:36:56 GMT -5
So... everyone can screw like rabbits, unwilling moms can abort away, unwilling dads can suicide away, and at long last we've produced a YMAM debate thread that reached consensus by the end. A job well done. whether you like it or not, people do screw like rabbits. abortions happen. suicides happen. Not everyone likes it, but it's reality. 19 Kids and Counting.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 20, 2015 20:16:21 GMT -5
But you have made it effectively no longer a free choice. You have made the "option" to abort coercive.
And what type of equality do you expect to get? You do not get equality of choice because you do not have equality of burden. You DO get equality of responsibility, which is exactly as it should be. No. Her choice is still freely hers. She just would not be able to force her choice to have consequences on someone else anymore. On ANYONE else, including taxpayers. Women used to have to give their children up for adoption before uncle sugar started supporting these poor decisions. You have a child with a support system in place that doesn't include taxpayers or an unwilling partner or be prepared to give said baby up to those who have their shot together. There'd be a lot less future criminals or baby mommas being born if there's was no support for shit parents to breed with no impunity
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 20, 2015 20:20:22 GMT -5
No. Her choice is still freely hers. She just would not be able to force her choice to have consequences on someone else anymore. On ANYONE else, including taxpayers. Women used to have to give their children up for adoption before uncle sugar started supporting these poor decisions. You have a child with a support system in place that doesn't include taxpayers or an unwilling partner or be prepared to give said baby up to those who have their shot together. There'd be a lot less future criminals or baby mommas being born if there's was no support for shit parents to breed with no impunity or you can do what the Duggars do and croudfund and TV series your way to 19 and counting. gotta love it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:31:14 GMT -5
No. Her choice is still freely hers. She just would not be able to force her choice to have consequences on someone else anymore. On ANYONE else, including taxpayers. Women used to have to give their children up for adoption before uncle sugar started supporting these poor decisions. You have a child with a support system in place that doesn't include taxpayers or an unwilling partner or be prepared to give said baby up to those who have their shot together. There'd be a lot less future criminals or baby mommas being born if there's was no support for shit parents to breed with no impunity Exactly. Women want the right to have the choice? Great. I support them having that right. BUT... with that right comes the responsibility and/or the consequences of the choice. If women don't want the consequences then they need to give up the choice (not something I am advocating, by the way).
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 20, 2015 20:44:20 GMT -5
I'm advocating it. I've seen the results of babies born to parents who were basically using them for support or to keep/trap a man.
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