I was right: President Elect Trump

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 4, 2016 11:32:53 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 4, 2016 11:20:18 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP , is it true your predictions have been incorrect in the past?

Fantastically.

Í Wás Wrong. No Mittmentum. Obama Re-elected.

 

[Iggy aka IG]

Here's one as of today:

2016 Battleground Map

Regardless, I'm still a Trump girl. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

CNN just bumped Clinton down to 268 electoral votes. Calling Maine's 2nd Congressional District and NH "toss ups"...but again..."likely voters". Folks, it's over.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2016 11:20:18 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP , is it true your predictions have been incorrect in the past?

Yes. I blew it out my ass predicting a Romney victory based on a gut feeling that the current Trump coalition would turn out. I based it on the "hope" that in spite of being an uninspiring stuffy northeastern liberal for open borders and amnesty, and basically the author of ObamaCare-- that enough people would vote to throw Obama out. I was wrong. I learned my lesson. No feelings. Only numbers. The Monster Vote is manifest. It's real.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

My real hope and prayer is that we have an election and we are not at war.
www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/assange_trump_will_not_be_allowed_to_win.html

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 4, 2016 11:49:55 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2016 11:20:18 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP , is it true your predictions have been incorrect in the past?

Yes. I blew it out my ass predicting a Romney victory based on a gut feeling that the current Trump coalition would turn out. I based it on the "hope" that in spite of being an uninspiring stuffy northeastern liberal for open borders and amnesty, and basically the author of ObamaCare-- that enough people would vote to throw Obama out. I was wrong. I learned my lesson. No feelings. Only numbers. The Monster Vote is manifest. It's real.

Understandable.  I live in the opposite end of the country, next door to Utah.  We thought for sure he would win.  In fact, there are still Romney signs visible here and there.  My conservative friends said he was "too nice" during the campaign.  We definitely don't have that problem with Mr. T. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

"Donald Trump is about to grab Hillary by the Virginia" - Rush Limbaugh





Donald Trump has taken a 3% lead in Virginia. The poll, while within the margin of error, represents a FIFTEEN POINT (15%) SWING in a poll that Hillary led Trump 46 to 34 just last month.





news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University%27s-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

What people are going to have to come to grips with who are in the media, and in polling organizations, and who do political consulting-- is that this is not 2008, and it's not 2012. Treating this like a traditional election year where the usual formulas apply is a YUGE mistake.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

It's a Clinton collapse...

RCP just moved Hillary to 208 electoral votes, her lowest, moving MICHIGAN into the "toss up" category. 

Michigan.

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_race_changes.html

Folks...RCP. And remember: RCP is strictly a "likely voter" outfit-- they all are.  

Obama won Florida by fewer than 75,000 votes, and we just learned there are 1.1 million early-voters in Florida that are either new voters, or sat out 2012.

This is going to be one of the biggest blowout elections in a long, long time.

Oh-- PA, too 

townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/03/real-clear-politics-moves-pennsylvania-into-the-tossup-column-n2241215

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 4, 2016 13:41:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

What people are going to have to come to grips with who are in the media, and in polling organizations, and who do political consulting-- is that this is not 2008, and it's not 2012. Treating this like a traditional election year where the usual formulas apply is a YUGE mistake.

Agreed.  I just had a lengthy conversation with a like minded client.  Things have changed, especially with the African-American voters in his opinion.

Oh, and the latest poll I looked at had my state heavily leaning toward Hillary.  Guess who conducted the poll?  U of Boulder-the largest Colorado liberal school. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2016 14:00:14 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Nov 4, 2016 13:41:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

What people are going to have to come to grips with who are in the media, and in polling organizations, and who do political consulting-- is that this is not 2008, and it's not 2012. Treating this like a traditional election year where the usual formulas apply is a YUGE mistake.

Agreed.  I just had a lengthy conversation with a like minded client.  Things have changed, especially with the African-American voters in his opinion.

Oh, and the latest poll I looked at had my state heavily leaning toward Hillary.  Guess who conducted the poll?  U of Boulder-the largest Colorado liberal school. 

IBD, again- likely voters- had Trump at 16% of African Americans. Romney got 6%. Granted, these are national polls, but I've seen polls with Trump at 19% and one with Trump in the mid 20's.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 10:59:25 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Iggy:  I'm happy!  Trump might win a swing state!  Thank you, Paul!

DJ:  No happiness for you!

Opt:  No happiness for you!

Iggy:  I choose happy!

#Trump2016

will you be happy if he loses?

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 4, 2016 15:39:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2016 10:59:25 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Iggy:  I'm happy!  Trump might win a swing state!  Thank you, Paul!

DJ:  No happiness for you!

Opt:  No happiness for you!

Iggy:  I choose happy!

#Trump2016

will you be happy if he loses?

Will you be happy when Hillary loses?

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 15:40:44 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Nov 4, 2016 15:39:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

will you be happy if he loses?

Will you be happy if Hillary loses?

only if Trump loses, also. 

your turn: will you be happy if Trump loses?

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 4, 2016 15:51:54 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2016 15:40:44 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Will you be happy if Hillary loses?

only if Trump loses, also. 

your turn: will you be happy if Trump loses?

Heyyyy... you changed your answer!  What happened to a ton of money and blow? 

[tallguy]

Wasn't it technically her turn first?   

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Nov 4, 2016 15:51:54 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

only if Trump loses, also. 

your turn: will you be happy if Trump loses?

Heyyyy... you changed your answer!  What happened to a ton of money and blow? 

HEY!  i am not going to make ANY blow! 

so, what about you?  will you be happy if DT loses?

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 15:55:17 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Wasn't it technically her turn first?   

i am hoping that she decides to play fair now that i have gone. 

[tallguy]

Nov 4, 2016 15:57:17 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2016 15:55:17 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Wasn't it technically her turn first?   

i am hoping that she decides to play fair now that i have gone. 

You know how well that worked out for Obama and you can still say that?  

 

[Iggy aka IG]

But, but, DJ, you said you were going to make a ton of money if she loses.  I want in on that. 

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 16:06:27 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

But, but, DJ, you said you were going to make a ton of money if she loses.  I want in on that. 

i am!  but money isn't everything.  i still care about this country.  my family has been here for 10 generations.

so, you gonna be happy if Trump loses?

edit: the reason i deleted that post is that i realized i already commented on the subject in the stock market thread.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 4, 2016 16:53:17 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 4, 2016 16:06:27 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

But, but, DJ, you said you were going to make a ton of money if she loses.  I want in on that. 

i am!  but money isn't everything.  i still care about this country.  my family has been here for 10 generations.

so, you gonna be happy if Trump loses?

I simply cannot believe that you and the other Democrats here are not smart enough to realize that money is all Hillary cares about, she cares NOTHING for the country at all-- it's all about making a buck. The pay to play at the State Department is not defensible-- there are literally too many "deals" to post-- it'd have to be a book. And it is: Clinton Cash. You should read it. The fact that Hillary had an illegal private email server in violation of the Espionage Act isn't even the story. The story is WHY she had it: to conceal her influence peddling operation at the Clinton Foundation where she sold our country's foreign policy to the highest bidder. She's guilty of 16 felonies BEFORE you get to conspiracy, lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, and obstruction. Benghazi- not defensible. Lying right to the face of someone who was killed in the September 11, 2012 Al Qaeda terrorist attack in Benghazi about some video sparking a protest so Obama can get re-elected while admitting to your daughter and others it's a terrorist attack. Someone that duplicitous on that point alone is not fit for office. 

Look- I don't like Trump, but the fact is: 


“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” 

-- Marcus Tullius Cicero

[Iggy aka IG]

This is over a month old, so I'm sure there's more (these are just the biggest ones):

LIE #1: CLINTON PUBLICLY BLAMED A YOUTUBE VIDEO FOR THE BENGHAZI TERRORIST ATTACK, WHILE PRIVATELY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT “HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FILM”

LIE #2: CLINTON HAS PUBLICLY TOUTED THE RUSSIAN “RESET” WHILE PRIVATELY ADMITTING IT WAS A FAILURE

LIE #3: CLINTON HAS TRIED TO REWRITE THE HISTORY OF HER POLICY TOWARDS SYRIA

36 of the Biggest Lies Hillary Has Told So Far

(Again, spare me your (collective) diatribe about where I obtain my sources.)

[dondub]

Clinton conspired with her husband to murder 47 people because she is the personification of evil.

Clinton used 3-ply tp to wipe her ass as first lady.

[tallguy]

Nov 4, 2016 17:08:28 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2016 16:53:17 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

I simply cannot believe that you and the other Democrats here are not smart enough to realize that money is all Hillary cares about, she cares NOTHING for the country at all-- it's all about making a buck. The pay to play at the State Department is not defensible-- there are literally too many "deals" to post-- it'd have to be a book. And it is: Clinton Cash. You should read it. 

Even if we were to grant even part of that highly dubious assertion, do you really contend that the same is not only not true of Trump, but that his love of money above country is several orders of magnitude greater than hers?  And Clinton Cash?  Seriously?  Not only have reporters and investigative journalists failed to find any evidence, but the author admitted in a televised interview that he has no real evidence.  He looked for a pattern, created the rest, and cites the pattern as "proof."  But what should one expect from a Breitbart guy?        

[mmhmm]

Iggy aka IG, you'll need to reduce your Reply #5387 to a short excerpt (like a few lines) and provide a link to your source per our CoC. Otherwise the post will have to be removed.

mmhmm,  Politics Moderator

[djAdvocate]

Nov 4, 2016 17:08:28 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 4, 2016 16:53:17 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i am!  but money isn't everything.  i still care about this country.  my family has been here for 10 generations.

so, you gonna be happy if Trump loses?

I simply cannot believe that you and the other Democrats here are not smart enough to realize that money is all Hillary cares about, she cares NOTHING for the country at all-- it's all about making a buck.

1) i already voted, and i didn't vote for Clinton
2) i am a registered Republican.  you know this.
3) i am all about making a buck too, so if that is supposed to be some kind of critique, it's not working.

[dondub]

I simply cannot believe that you and the other Democrats here are not smart enough to realize that money is all Hillary cares about, she cares NOTHING for the country at all-- it's all about making a buck.

Just another in a long line of scurrilous accusations with no basis in fact or reality.

[tallguy]

Our choice of leaders matters. Our respect for institutions matters. Trust in the democratic process matters. Freedom of the press matters. An independent judiciary matters. And it matters that America continues to believe itself a country that welcomes “your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

Imagine for the moment that it would be possible to set aside Trump’s repulsive personal behavior and evaluate him on his more aspirational merits. Trump as President substantially increases the risk of grave and direct harm to American citizens.

A president has checks and balances domestically, but sits virtually unbound when it comes to global affairs. Trump has lied and contradicted himself on every major foreign policy question; demonstrated a cavalier attitude toward the use of nuclear weapons; insulted veterans and current service members; stoked ethnic and religious violence; acted in support of Putin (the single person doing the most to erode global order); repeatedly demonstrated his thin skin and personal vindictiveness; and, most damagingly, undermined the trust and institutions of our republic.
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There’s nothing irreversible in America’s character that makes the country forever safe. ISIS, as it stands today, cannot compare to the threat that someone like Trump could pose to the US. The world has not matured past the specter of global conflict or the possibility of nuclear holocaust. We are not inherently different than all those previous generations who also thought they had reached the end of major wars. For our safety and as the world’s indispensable nation, America cannot have a President Trump.

Hillary Clinton is more than simply an alternative to Trump. She has certainly made mistakes, often amplified by a lack of transparency. Moreover, the Clintons have often allowed themselves to be surrounded by a political courtier class that embodies the establishment and is rife with potential conflicts of interest. But Clinton has also routinely been saddled with negative baggage that is not her own, but instead a byproduct of an exceptionally visible and polarizing political life. She is smart, thorough, and diligent in her study of complex topics. In the foreign policy world that I know best, I believe she could be among the most capable presidents of the last century.

A former Marine Corps officer on why voters must defeat Donald Trump

[Opti]

Nov 4, 2016 18:13:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

I simply cannot believe that you and the other Democrats here are not smart enough to realize that money is all Hillary cares about, she cares NOTHING for the country at all-- it's all about making a buck.

Just another in a long line of scurrilous accusations with no basis in fact or reality.

If all she cared about was money, she'd get out of the public service gig and hook up with some of her investor friends. Finally get some investments that work for her and close down the Clinton Foundation. Pay for play has actually been proven for Trump. It hasn't for Clinton. The Clinton Cash thing as someone mentioned is a hack job and has no proof. It sounds ominous until you realize it has no actual meat, just things that might be connected with no actual evidence to sustain them.