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Post by Pants on Sept 29, 2016 8:47:09 GMT -5
Nothing will hurt him with his die hard supporters, but hopefully, the fact that he is so very friendly to regimes that have historically been our enemies in order to grub a little more money will matter to the undecided. The Cuba issue could greatly harm Trump in south Florida with Cuban-American citizens who fled Cuba all these past years. Trump needs their vote to win Florida. I'd forgotten about that. Good call. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 29, 2016 8:48:37 GMT -5
Heh heh...... A little bit too disingenuis? Well, using the sarcasm font would have helped.  |
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Post by Pants on Sept 29, 2016 8:50:03 GMT -5
Heh heh...... A little bit too disingenuis? Well, using the sarcasm font would have helped. We have a sarcasm font? What is it and how can I make it my default? |
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Post by Opti on Sept 29, 2016 8:56:11 GMT -5
Well, using the sarcasm font would have helped. We have a sarcasm font? What is it and how can I make it my default? No.  I was thinking it could be modeled off another font much like Shelvetica from BBT. Sarcastica.   |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 29, 2016 8:57:08 GMT -5
Well, using the sarcasm font would have helped. We have a sarcasm font? What is it and how can I make it my default? Use it as your avator. |
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Post by Pants on Sept 29, 2016 8:58:38 GMT -5
We have a sarcasm font? What is it and how can I make it my default? Use it as your avator. If only there was a way to visually represent that... |
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Post by Opti on Sept 29, 2016 9:03:02 GMT -5
If only there was a way to visually represent that... There are sarcasm memes... |
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Post by Pants on Sept 29, 2016 9:36:20 GMT -5
*sigh*
I was being sarcastic again... I am misunderstood in my own time...
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Post by Opti on Sept 29, 2016 9:39:43 GMT -5
*sigh* I was being sarcastic again... I am misunderstood in my own time... It happens. That's why I try use these emoticons when appropriate -  . |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 29, 2016 10:32:14 GMT -5
The Cuba issue could greatly harm Trump in south Florida with Cuban-American citizens who fled Cuba all these past years. Trump needs their vote to win Florida. I'd forgotten about that. Good call. ditto. |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2016 10:45:16 GMT -5
Nothing will hurt him with his die hard supporters, but hopefully, the fact that he is so very friendly to regimes that have historically been our enemies in order to grub a little more money will matter to the undecided. I mean look, I'm not a Castro fan, but the embargo went on way too long. I don't care much that companies were trying to do business there before the embargo ended, actually. I'm torn on whether this will matter to conservatives though, to whom "communism" is the ultimate dirty word. I think lifting the embargo was a good thing, too, but at the time Trump was making his forays into that country, it was illegal. For someone who wants to pass himself off as Mr Law and Order, and someone who talks a lot about punishing companies who (legally) move their operations overseas, it's more than a little hypocritical that he himself was ignoring the law and exploring business opportunities in Cuba.
Kind of like how he brought in illegal Polish workers to tear down the building that sits on the site where he built Trump tower, and illegally paid them subminimum wages (or didn't pay them at all) and threatened to deport them if they complained about it - if you've got that on your resume, you can't now complain about other companies using cheap illegal immigrant labor.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2016 10:46:28 GMT -5
We have a sarcasm font? What is it and how can I make it my default? No. I was thinking it could be modeled off another font much like Shelvetica from BBT. Sarcastica. We could invent our own.
All the pointy parts, like the tops of t's and l's, should be small daggers.
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Post by Pants on Sept 29, 2016 10:53:07 GMT -5
No. I was thinking it could be modeled off another font much like Shelvetica from BBT. Sarcastica. We could invent our own.
All the pointy parts, like the tops of t's and l's, should be small daggers.
Or forked tongues. |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 29, 2016 10:55:46 GMT -5
I like daggers. Then the punctuation could be red.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2016 11:32:55 GMT -5
Gary Johnson has been very disappointing to me, and this stuff is why. I heard his climate change leap to other planets the other day and was stunned. (I expect that sort of blather from a Trump or a Palin.... not a policy maker) I know something of William Weld, and he is an upright candidate with some real cred, imo. Maybe that ticket should have been reversed. Likewise though, I've now seen enough of Jill Stein to make me think thanks, but no thanks. I do like some of her environmental and FP positions. Much of the rest of her platform however I just don't agree with. Given the stakes in this election with the two big party candidates, I am going to weigh in where it counts. yeah, the vaccination thing with Jill Stein had me going "nope, not an option for me now" yfkm. she is a vaxxer? |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2016 11:34:13 GMT -5
Oh and Gary Johnson couldn't name one single world leader he admired tonight in the Libertarian town hall. Or one single world leader in general. Stuff like this is why I bother watching what the other candidates are doing & saying. I did enjoy, in a for shits & giggles kinda way, his statement last week that the way to combat climate change was to inhabit other planets. He doesn't seem to just have Aleppo moments, he IS an Aleppo moment on a constant loop. #ImWithHer Gary Johnson has been very disappointing to me, and this stuff is why. I heard his climate change leap to other planets the other day and was stunned. (I expect that sort of blather from a Trump or a Palin.... not a policy maker) I know something of William Weld, and he is an upright candidate with some real cred, imo. Maybe that ticket should have been reversed. Likewise though, I've now seen enough of Jill Stein to make me think thanks, but no thanks. I do like some of her environmental and FP positions. Much of the rest of her platform however I just don't agree with. Given the stakes in this election with the two big party candidates, I am going to weigh in where it counts. i'm really stoked that you looked into it. well done. |
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Post by swamp on Sept 29, 2016 11:37:55 GMT -5
I mean look, I'm not a Castro fan, but the embargo went on way too long. I don't care much that companies were trying to do business there before the embargo ended, actually. I'm torn on whether this will matter to conservatives though, to whom "communism" is the ultimate dirty word. I think lifting the embargo was a good thing, too, but at the time Trump was making his forays into that country, it was illegal. For someone who wants to pass himself off as Mr Law and Order, and someone who talks a lot about punishing companies who (legally) move their operations overseas, it's more than a little hypocritical that he himself was ignoring the law and exploring business opportunities in Cuba.
Kind of like how he brought in illegal Polish workers to tear down the building that sits on the site where he built Trump tower, and illegally paid them subminimum wages (or didn't pay them at all) and threatened to deport them if they complained about it - if you've got that on your resume, you can't now complain about other companies using cheap illegal immigrant labor.
Winner, winner chicken dinner. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2016 11:38:33 GMT -5
Nothing will hurt him with his die hard supporters, but hopefully, the fact that he is so very friendly to regimes that have historically been our enemies in order to grub a little more money will matter to the undecided. I mean look, I'm not a Castro fan, but the embargo went on way too long. I don't care much that companies were trying to do business there before the embargo ended, actually. I'm torn on whether this will matter to conservatives though, to whom "communism" is the ultimate dirty word. you might be less torn if you realized that he touted the importance of the embargo in front of a Cuban American audience less than 3 months after he was doing business with them. the hypocrisy is galling, even if the illegality isn't. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2016 11:42:49 GMT -5
I think lifting the embargo was a good thing, too, but at the time Trump was making his forays into that country, it was illegal. For someone who wants to pass himself off as Mr Law and Order, and someone who talks a lot about punishing companies who (legally) move their operations overseas, it's more than a little hypocritical that he himself was ignoring the law and exploring business opportunities in Cuba.
Kind of like how he brought in illegal Polish workers to tear down the building that sits on the site where he built Trump tower, and illegally paid them subminimum wages (or didn't pay them at all) and threatened to deport them if they complained about it - if you've got that on your resume, you can't now complain about other companies using cheap illegal immigrant labor.
Winner, winner chicken dinner. but he is a billionaire. that means he is smart and can get things done, right? (here is what i don't get. if having a billionaire as president is such a good idea, why didn't we elect Rockefeller and Romney)? |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 29, 2016 11:53:06 GMT -5
yeah, the vaccination thing with Jill Stein had me going "nope, not an option for me now" yfkm. she is a vaxxer? I think she was trying to soften her views to court the anti-vax crowd. She may have gained their votes but she lost mine. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2016 15:35:59 GMT -5
if Trump wants his "white wave", he is going to have to get them to register:
VOTER REGISTRATION CHANGE IN COUNTIES THAT ARE …
STATE MAJORITY LESS-EDUCATED WHITE WELL-EDUCATED/DIVERSE
Florida +4.7% +4.4%
North Carolina +5.4 +6.8
Pennsylvania +4.9 +6.3
Virginia +2.9 +4.8
the first number is the constituency that favors trump. the second is that which favors clinton. as you can see, in three of these four battlegrounds, clinton is outregistering trump. and that makes sense, because registration requires a ground game, and that is not how trump plays.
this data was posted at nate silver's site, if anyone is interested.
of course, they might be able to keep them from voting by using onerous voter ID laws, but that isn't going to work in most of the battleground states.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 29, 2016 19:46:18 GMT -5
Galling, but not surprising.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 19:52:46 GMT -5
Newsweek cover coming out tomorrow has a YUGE story about Trump doing business in Cuba during the embargo/block/don't go to Cuba rules. which is, shocker I know, ILLEGAL. on another note, anyone interested should find & watch Joe Biden's speech from today. Pretty good. Here is the link to that.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trumps-castro-connection-how-trumps-company-violated-the-us-embargo-against-cuba/ar-BBwMksk?li=BBnb7Kz
So Trump illegally spends money in Cuba trying to launch a deal, hides this as a 'charitable donation' because any deals with Cuba at this time without express permission from the US government are highly illegal, and then, months later, when trying to pander to a room full of Cuban exiles, lies his ass off about it.
How did someone so willing to go against American interests and commit illegal acts in order to earn a few more bucks - and then lie about it to a room full of people - ever become the candidate of a major party for the highest American office?
This is why his admiration for Putin alarms me so much. He has significant business deals going on in Russia. He won't fuck that up by being tough on Putin, even if that's what we need to do, because Trump is only ever interested in what profits him personally.
Are you asking about Hillary... or Trump? You do know that BOTH OF THEM have done that... right? |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 29, 2016 19:56:45 GMT -5
A link please Richard because I don't know that.
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Post by steff on Sept 29, 2016 20:19:33 GMT -5
Add another to the Trumpfucked pile. The Washington Post just dropped an article that says that the Trump Foundation never registered with the state of New York as a charity to solicit donations. On the state level, it was never designated as a charity.
DOH!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 22:34:27 GMT -5
What illegal act has Hillary Clinton committed and then lied about? Even if nothing else (there's plenty of "else" but I don't feel like Googling things that the "Hillary is the bestest candidate evah!!!!!" crowd will just ignore anyway... what's the point?)... perjury in the congressional hearings. That's the crime OF lying. Look... you want to live in the world of Clinton Denial... That's fine and dandy. Live there. Enjoy yourself. Just don't get upset when it's pointed out that she's as guilty of the same exact things that Donald is guilty of. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 22:35:20 GMT -5
A link please Richard because I don't know that. See previous reply. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 5:37:20 GMT -5
Even if nothing else (there's plenty of "else" but I don't feel like Googling things that the "Hillary is the bestest candidate evah!!!!!" crowd will just ignore anyway... what's the point?)... perjury in the congressional hearings. That's the crime OF lying. Look... you want to live in the world of Clinton Denial... That's fine and dandy. Live there. Enjoy yourself. Just don't get upset when it's pointed out that she's as guilty of the same exact things that Donald is guilty of. Which hearings? Had she done so they would have had her head. No they wouldn't. Just like they didn't "have her head" over the e-mails. Just like they didn't "Have her head" over Benghazi. Just like they didn't "have her head" over Whitewater. Just like they didn't "have her head" over numerous things that they would have had your head or my head over... had we done the exact same things. As to which hearings... I knew exactly what to Google for this one so it only took a second (or actually "0.36 seconds" ... according to the search clock on the Google results page, plus time to type "Hillary Clinton perjury Congress FBI email"... if you want precision). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 5:53:43 GMT -5
But there was no indication that she attempted to lie intentionally. Discrepancies in testimony, particularly very small ones, are not inherently criminal. To be perjury you must WILLFULLY offer false testimony. If it had been criminal, they would have charged her.
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