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Post by Opti on May 8, 2016 0:31:47 GMT -5
No worries. I think Paul and Trump don't realize how many people have a violent reaction to narcissistic BS. Perhaps if you really believe everyone likes that kind of stuff, you can't accept the truth. A big percentage of people find it a major turn off.
I've been having a related discussion with a couple current and former co-workers. Some people like bubbly, false faced people in reception & marketing. And some of us who tend to be more logical and truthful, find such types off-putting. My guess is preference falls based on the person's own personality. I have an instinctive distrust of blowhard self promoters. I like Trump less and less as the campaign continues.
This may be difficult for you to understand because you are an exception, but you transpose your own feelings and views on to others. This is a mistake. I don't fall for BS, either, but that's because I'm well trained. I don't share this information widely, but I'm a trained hypnotist. It's one reason I excel at my work- as an adjuster working for the insurance company, a big part of my job is conveying confidence to experts-- like engineers, and other knowledgeable people investigating a loss; AND I have to tell people things they don't wish to hear: shingles on your roof are slipping because when it was installed, the roofers over-drove the nails (through the shingles). We saw no storm damage. Construction defect, including improper installation, are not covered. You get the idea. I'm able to do this in such a way that the vast majority are accepting of my findings because I've already ensured that they feel like they know me, they like me, and they trust me. They believe I have their best interests at heart. They believe very strongly that I am there to assist them in any and every way that I can. Unfortunately, like them, I am bound by the policy. Just like when you accepted the policy, I also accepted the policy when I took this job. We all have to fight the inclination of projecting our views onto others. I'm guessing you are using the word transpose for when *you* figure the person doesn't match up to you that closely, so perhaps you have a transposition algorithm more robust that the binary one used in the P&M forum.
I'm trained better than most to be clear what is me, what might be them, and very important - ask others to clarify instead assume. When I know what I know. Most people believe me.
I hope Hillary has some of my experience with boy bullies. That coupled with her experience being witch hunted appears to have made her tougher and more determined. I hope she laughs, raises her eyebrows, and moves on.
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Post by Opti on May 8, 2016 0:41:20 GMT -5
Monster Vote. Interesting. I don't think they are unified in their desires. Some are like Virgil and simply against voting ever. Some are young voters who won't find it important enough to do until their 30s or even later. Some will find it too inconvenient whether they are a workaholic, over-extended parent & worker, or someone elderly, blind, or disabled that needs to make other arrangements.
I wonder how much of that bloc does not vote because of strong mental and/or physical impairment.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 8, 2016 2:02:43 GMT -5
No worries. I think Paul and Trump don't realize how many people have a violent reaction to narcissistic BS. Perhaps if you really believe everyone likes that kind of stuff, you can't accept the truth. A big percentage of people find it a major turn off.
I've been having a related discussion with a couple current and former co-workers. Some people like bubbly, false faced people in reception & marketing. And some of us who tend to be more logical and truthful, find such types off-putting. My guess is preference falls based on the person's own personality. I have an instinctive distrust of blowhard self promoters. I like Trump less and less as the campaign continues.
This may be difficult for you to understand because you are an exception, but you transpose your own feelings and views on to others. This is a mistake. I don't fall for BS, either, but that's because I'm well trained. I don't share this information widely, but I'm a trained hypnotist. It's one reason I excel at my work- as an adjuster working for the insurance company, a big part of my job is conveying confidence to experts-- like engineers, and other knowledgeable people investigating a loss; AND I have to tell people things they don't wish to hear: shingles on your roof are slipping because when it was installed, the roofers over-drove the nails (through the shingles). We saw no storm damage. Construction defect, including improper installation, are not covered. You get the idea. I'm able to do this in such a way that the vast majority are accepting of my findings because I've already ensured that they feel like they know me, they like me, and they trust me. They believe I have their best interests at heart. They believe very strongly that I am there to assist them in any and every way that I can. Unfortunately, like them, I am bound by the policy. Just like when you accepted the policy, I also accepted the policy when I took this job.
Lol! So, are you lying to them, or abiding by the policies honestly? If you're abiding by the policies, then why do you need this "hypnotism"?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 6:22:31 GMT -5
yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him. Oh, I don't count myself as a supporter-- but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show. The GOP needed to be blown up, and if Trump is the suicide bomber that gets it done- fine by me. I'm so confused. Is the GOP blown up? Or headed for total healing?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 6:24:11 GMT -5
No worries. I think Paul and Trump don't realize how many people have a violent reaction to narcissistic BS. Perhaps if you really believe everyone likes that kind of stuff, you can't accept the truth. A big percentage of people find it a major turn off.
I've been having a related discussion with a couple current and former co-workers. Some people like bubbly, false faced people in reception & marketing. And some of us who tend to be more logical and truthful, find such types off-putting. My guess is preference falls based on the person's own personality. I have an instinctive distrust of blowhard self promoters. I like Trump less and less as the campaign continues.
This may be difficult for you to understand because you are an exception, but you transpose your own feelings and views on to others. This is a mistake. I don't fall for BS, either, but that's because I'm well trained. I don't share this information widely, but I'm a trained hypnotist. It's one reason I excel at my work- as an adjuster working for the insurance company, a big part of my job is conveying confidence to experts-- like engineers, and other knowledgeable people investigating a loss; AND I have to tell people things they don't wish to hear: shingles on your roof are slipping because when it was installed, the roofers over-drove the nails (through the shingles). We saw no storm damage. Construction defect, including improper installation, are not covered. You get the idea. I'm able to do this in such a way that the vast majority are accepting of my findings because I've already ensured that they feel like they know me, they like me, and they trust me. They believe I have their best interests at heart. They believe very strongly that I am there to assist them in any and every way that I can. Unfortunately, like them, I am bound by the policy. Just like when you accepted the policy, I also accepted the policy when I took this job. Oh the irony.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2016 8:55:15 GMT -5
... Oh, I don't count myself as a supporter-- but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show. The GOP needed to be blown up, and if Trump is the suicide bomber that gets it done- fine by me. I have no problem with this either and am also enjoying the show. I love to watch a good show. What concerns me about this one is the idea that I will be forced to wake up each morning of the next four years on the set instead of in the audience. The only positive of a successful suicide bomber is they blow themselves up and thus can't keep setting off bombs. I don't see Trump taking on that role.
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2016 10:22:18 GMT -5
If Donald Trump should select Newt Gingrich as his running mate, and if they should happen to win the general election, will all six of their wives be at the inauguration? That is pretty good! Myself, Newt is old establishment. I do not want him
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2016 10:24:13 GMT -5
After seeing Hillary several different times in black leather, on the campaign trail and interviews, I welcome that! I assume it is not black vinyl??
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2016 10:26:29 GMT -5
... Oh, I don't count myself as a supporter-- but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show. The GOP needed to be blown up, and if Trump is the suicide bomber that gets it done- fine by me. I have no problem with this either and am also enjoying the show. I love to watch a good show. What concerns me about this one is the idea that I will be forced to wake up each morning of the next four years on the set instead of in the audience. The only positive of a successful suicide bomber is they blow themselves up and thus can't keep setting off bombs. I don't see Trump taking on that role. That role will go to the next Apprentice winner or even possibly, previous Apprentice contestants, such as Amarossa, or Gary Busey. I could see Meatloaf volunteering for it.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 8, 2016 10:31:26 GMT -5
Gary Busey for Secretary of Defense. Perfect fit what with Taco Trump as president.
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2016 10:35:06 GMT -5
Gary Busey for Secretary of Defense. Perfect fit what with Taco Trump as president. Meatloaf, Secretary of State. He would be excellent in negotiating things with heads of State. Amarossa would be good for Secretary of Education, but I think Trump is dropping that department
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Post by Tennesseer on May 8, 2016 10:37:10 GMT -5
Gary Busey for Secretary of Defense. Perfect fit what with Taco Trump as president. Meatloaf, Secretary of State. He would be excellent in negotiating things with heads of State. Amarossa would be good for Secretary of Education, but I think Trump is dropping that department Trump is already doing a great job with elimating education. One only has to look at his supporters.
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2016 10:41:11 GMT -5
Meatloaf, Secretary of State. He would be excellent in negotiating things with heads of State. Amarossa would be good for Secretary of Education, but I think Trump is dropping that department Trump is already doing a great job with elimating education. One only has to look at his supporters. I did give a thumbs up on the post, but in the last few primaries he has won all education groups against Cruz and Kasich. Granted they were Republican groups. Of course Trump is only slightly less crazy than Cruz.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 10:59:47 GMT -5
... Oh, I don't count myself as a supporter-- but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show. The GOP needed to be blown up, and if Trump is the suicide bomber that gets it done- fine by me. I have no problem with this either and am also enjoying the show. I love to watch a good show. What concerns me about this one is the idea that I will be forced to wake up each morning of the next four years on the set instead of in the audience. The only positive of a successful suicide bomber is they blow themselves up and thus can't keep setting off bombs. I don't see Trump taking on that role. We lived through the 8 years of Obama's "fundamental transformation". I never seriously expected things to get better.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 11:01:58 GMT -5
If Donald Trump should select Newt Gingrich as his running mate, and if they should happen to win the general election, will all six of their wives be at the inauguration? That is pretty good! Myself, Newt is old establishment. I do not want him Newt Gingrich is, without exaggeration, the smartest living person in politics. Now that Trump has trounced the far right, and the establishment- the Trump Revolution needs an intellectual underpinning. Newt is one of the few that could help formulate that.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 11:04:42 GMT -5
Without exaggeration? ... Paul I didn't know you were capable. Superlatives seem to be your nature.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 11:13:33 GMT -5
I ghost wrote a blog post for a pro-Trump site before the primary was over. I predicted Trump would crush Cruz in Indiana by 20 points. I was right. This is the tsunami I saw coming in 2012, what I got wrong is that these people will have no settle-for candidate. One thing I wrote in that post is that elected Republicans should not hesitate to back Trump, they should take up their boards and ride the wave. I warned people to get as far away as possible from the #NeverTrumpers and stay out of the blast radius of that implosion. I surmised that the meltdown would last a month, and then all #NeverTrumpers who did not come around decisively would fade into obscurity and be irrelevant essentially forever. I predicted that Trump would begin slowly lowering Hillary Clinton feet first into his campaign wood chipper-- this is going to massively energize the demoralized Cruz Crew and others because there are plenty of people on the right for whom the long overdue destruction of Hillary Clinton will be enough. And I'll say it again- there's no way Clinton endures five months of this. No. Way.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 11:16:46 GMT -5
Most of what's happening is well outside of politics and deep in to human nature and the human psyche. What you have to understand: people are drawn to energy and enthusiasm. Trump is the most exciting thing to happen in politics since Obama 2008, only much, much bigger-- in fact, these massive rallies have never been seen in American politics. And winning begets winning.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2016 11:47:16 GMT -5
don't whine too much. this is a 7 year recovery, VB. i don't have high expectations from it, and i suspect we will be in a recession within a year or two. this is just how the world turns. So, the Dems will be able to blame Trump for it since he will be the President at the time. another great reason for the GOP to throw him under the bus.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2016 11:48:18 GMT -5
she could be. but i doubt it. This time... do not doubt me. Ever.... sorry, but we are way past that.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2016 11:49:36 GMT -5
a grade A asshole is never needed, imo. particularly one with the big red button. Either a lot of primary voters disagree with you, or have different standards and don't consider him an asshole. i am sure you have enough imagination to come up with more than two alternatives.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2016 11:51:21 GMT -5
Sometimes a "grade- A asshole" is what's needed to do a certain job. A lot of people are really, really tired of namby-pamby, political correctness. I know I am. Going by the Republican primary result, so are a lot of others. Yep. I'll never say Trump isn't an asshole. I will say I'm glad for many things Trump has done. For starters, we can say illegal alien again. And he's just getting warmed up on Crooked Hillary-- did you hear what he said about her? he hasn't DONE a fucking thing. that is precisely the issue i have with him. if you mean lowering the level of the debate to the point where a 4th grader can understand it, then yes, that is indeed an accomplishment of sorts.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2016 11:59:38 GMT -5
Most of what's happening is well outside of politics and deep in to human nature and the human psyche. What you have to understand: people are drawn to energy and enthusiasm. Trump is the most exciting thing to happen in politics since Obama 2008, only much, much bigger-- in fact, these massive rallies have never been seen in American politics. And winning begets winning. how do his rallies compare to Sanders?
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Post by weltschmerz on May 8, 2016 12:02:44 GMT -5
Most of what's happening is well outside of politics and deep in to human nature and the human psyche. What you have to understand: people are drawn to energy and enthusiasm. Trump is the most exciting thing to happen in politics since Obama 2008, only much, much bigger-- in fact, these massive rallies have never been seen in American politics. And winning begets winning. Yeah, just like they were drawn to Jim Jones and Charles Manson.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 17:35:47 GMT -5
Yep. I'll never say Trump isn't an asshole. I will say I'm glad for many things Trump has done. For starters, we can say illegal alien again. And he's just getting warmed up on Crooked Hillary-- did you hear what he said about her? he hasn't DONE a fucking thing. that is precisely the issue i have with him. if you mean lowering the level of the debate to the point where a 4th grader can understand it, then yes, that is indeed an accomplishment of sorts. You're goofy. You don't understand how negotiation works. We are now having a national debate about illegal aliens, islam, the economy, foreign policy-- I wonder if you noticed, anti-war foreign policy (not kooky isolationist, never ever pull the trigger-- but anti-war) and the intersection of all these issues which would have been unthinkable just a year ago.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 17:36:28 GMT -5
Glenn Beck is in the middle of a mental breakdown before a national audience.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 17:37:46 GMT -5
Most of what's happening is well outside of politics and deep in to human nature and the human psyche. What you have to understand: people are drawn to energy and enthusiasm. Trump is the most exciting thing to happen in politics since Obama 2008, only much, much bigger-- in fact, these massive rallies have never been seen in American politics. And winning begets winning. how do his rallies compare to Sanders? They don't. There's nothing close to the crowds Trump is drawing.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 18:05:16 GMT -5
Hard for me to find rally numbers.
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