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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 5, 2016 23:08:06 GMT -5
I've been working on these same skills for years. I'm not great at it- but I am better than most, and I'm conscious in my use of language-- and I can tell you: it works. First, watch this:
Trump masterfully transports people into a future they themselves have conjured up in their own heads. Obama did this, but he's a piker compared to Trump.
Then watch this at about 18:44 and listen to how he says, "I won with women. I love winning with women." -
you have to listen to the pattern of speech. It's a deep psychological strike-- it is irresistible on a base level. Women are subconsciously attracted to him as a result, and men that want to be Trump are drawn to it as well. It was one of the most masterfully delivered NLP suggestions I've ever heard. I knew what it was when I heard it, and I perked up and had to go back and listen again.
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Post by Opti on May 6, 2016 6:07:00 GMT -5
I agree Trump is a great people manipulator. But it doesn't work on all of us. I hear the shit and ignore most of it. Yes he did well using Jeb Bush is low energy, but the man was already slipping. He wasn't going to do well anyway.
I know he's trying to program people. But to some of us he sounds like the annoying rambling guy who thinks he's better than he is. And that's such a turn off you assume the majority of the time he's just talking out his ass.
Which might be why he purses those lips so often.
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Pursed
Lips which are pulled inwards from all directions are an indication of tension and may indicate frustration or disapproval.
Pursed lips are a classic sign of anger, including when it is suppressed. It is effectively holding the mouth shut to prevent the person saying what they feel like saying. This may also be an indication of lying or withholding the truth as the person stops themselves from telling the truth.
Pursed lips can also indicate a person who is thinking and who is deciding between possible options. Deciding and disapproval are both evaluative actions, which is the common core of lip-pursing. changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/lips_body_language.htm
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Post by Opti on May 6, 2016 6:08:15 GMT -5
I'm guessing you fall into the large category of women repulsed by Trump?
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Post by Opti on May 6, 2016 6:15:00 GMT -5
OK, I could only take only 2 minutes of his victory speech. He was almost talking as slow as Cruz. I'm guessing the masterful bits come at the end when he gets out of his low energy phase?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 6:36:33 GMT -5
While it was the 'women are subconciously attracted to him' line that made me literally, gag... there is a fair bit of nauseating material in that post. Not the least of which is the man crush Paul seems to have and how he is anxious to attribute the same qualities he bestows on Trump to himself. I have a very weak stomach for narcisism and bullshit. But that probably just means i'm pining away in my deep, deep subcouncious....
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Post by Opti on May 6, 2016 7:13:38 GMT -5
While it was the 'women are subconciously attracted to him' line that made me literally, gag... there is a fair bit of nauseating material in that post. Not the least of which is the man crush Paul seems to have and how he is anxious to attribute the same qualities he bestows on Trump to himself. I have a very weak stomach for narcisism and bullshit. But that probably just means i'm pining away in my deep, deep subcouncious.... No worries. I think Paul and Trump don't realize how many people have a violent reaction to narcissistic BS. Perhaps if you really believe everyone likes that kind of stuff, you can't accept the truth. A big percentage of people find it a major turn off.
I've been having a related discussion with a couple current and former co-workers. Some people like bubbly, false faced people in reception & marketing. And some of us who tend to be more logical and truthful, find such types off-putting. My guess is preference falls based on the person's own personality. I have an instinctive distrust of blowhard self promoters. I like Trump less and less as the campaign continues.
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Post by Value Buy on May 6, 2016 9:40:01 GMT -5
April jobs number were estimated to be about 200,000 Came in at 160,000, and cnbc labeled it "slightly under" the projected number. I see it at 20% off target, which in anyone's book is horrendous estimate number miss. March and February were also adjusted down slightly from previously released numbers.
Does this favor Trump who claims job growth has been bad, or Hillary who says we need four more years of President Obama's administration. Secretary Perez says these are great numbers! Ask the 40,000 people who did not get the projected job openings.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 6, 2016 9:48:35 GMT -5
Then watch this at about 18:44 and listen to how he says, "I won with women. I love winning with women." -. yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 6, 2016 9:49:36 GMT -5
This is the election I thought we'd have in 2012. That block of voters that I knew was ready to administer a beating to the establishment in BOTH parties has finally showed up. I would have preferred they'd show up for Cruz (though, I have to admit-- Cruz's late campaign was a turn-off in almost every way imaginable-- especially persisting with a contested convention strategy after being mathematically eliminated). Hillary is toast. she could be. but i doubt it.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 6, 2016 9:51:55 GMT -5
April jobs number were estimated to be about 200,000 Came in at 160,000, and cnbc labeled it "slightly under" the projected number. I see it at 20% off target, which in anyone's book is horrendous estimate number miss. March and February were also adjusted down slightly from previously released numbers. Does this favor Trump who claims job growth has been bad, or Hillary who says we need four more years of President Obama's administration. Secretary Perez says these are great numbers! Ask the 40,000 people who did not get the projected job openings. i think it is pretty amusing that we are complaining about 160k/month in job growth. that is well over the number needed to get people entering the job market to work, and about the average for the last (i don't know how many) years.
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Post by Value Buy on May 6, 2016 9:54:09 GMT -5
April jobs number were estimated to be about 200,000 Came in at 160,000, and cnbc labeled it "slightly under" the projected number. I see it at 20% off target, which in anyone's book is horrendous estimate number miss. March and February were also adjusted down slightly from previously released numbers. Does this favor Trump who claims job growth has been bad, or Hillary who says we need four more years of President Obama's administration. Secretary Perez says these are great numbers! Ask the 40,000 people who did not get the projected job openings. i think it is pretty amusing that we are complaining about 160k/month in job growth. that is well over the number needed to get people entering the job market to work, and about the average for the last (i don't know how many) years. Refresh my memory. How many University grads are we expecting to enter the workforce in the next two months? How many High school graduates not going onto higher education will be entering the workforce in the next two months?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 6, 2016 9:59:58 GMT -5
i think it is pretty amusing that we are complaining about 160k/month in job growth. that is well over the number needed to get people entering the job market to work, and about the average for the last (i don't know how many) years. Refresh my memory. How many University grads are we expecting to enter the workforce in the next two months? How many High school graduates not going onto higher education will be entering the workforce in the next two months? don't whine too much. this is a 7 year recovery, VB. i don't have high expectations from it, and i suspect we will be in a recession within a year or two. this is just how the world turns.
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Post by Value Buy on May 7, 2016 10:44:04 GMT -5
Refresh my memory. How many University grads are we expecting to enter the workforce in the next two months? How many High school graduates not going onto higher education will be entering the workforce in the next two months? don't whine too much. this is a 7 year recovery, VB. i don't have high expectations from it, and i suspect we will be in a recession within a year or two. this is just how the world turns. So, the Dems will be able to blame Trump for it since he will be the President at the time.
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Post by Opti on May 7, 2016 10:48:48 GMT -5
don't whine too much. this is a 7 year recovery, VB. i don't have high expectations from it, and i suspect we will be in a recession within a year or two. this is just how the world turns. So, the Dems will be able to blame Trump for it since he will be the President at the time. He's got to lose. I don't want this country bombed or war coming to us simply because he decides to act like an ass.
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Post by Value Buy on May 7, 2016 10:51:04 GMT -5
So, the Dems will be able to blame Trump for it since he will be the President at the time. He's got to lose. I don't want this country bombed or war coming to us simply because he decides to act like an ass. We have already been "bombed". On Clinton's watch and Bush II If you are referencing atomic bombs, OR the dirty one, it could happen at any time now regardless of who is in the WH
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 10:55:32 GMT -5
Then watch this at about 18:44 and listen to how he says, "I won with women. I love winning with women." -. yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him. Sometimes a "grade- A asshole" is what's needed to do a certain job. A lot of people are really, really tired of namby-pamby, political correctness. I know I am. Going by the Republican primary result, so are a lot of others.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 11:00:41 GMT -5
So, the Dems will be able to blame Trump for it since he will be the President at the time. He's got to lose. I don't want this country bombed or war coming to us simply because he decides to act like an ass. I don't think any wars will be started because of what he needed to do get liberal mainstream media attention to win a primary.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 7, 2016 11:18:07 GMT -5
yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him. Sometimes a "grade- A asshole" is what's needed to do a certain job. A lot of people are really, really tired of namby-pamby, political correctness. I know I am. Going by the Republican primary result, so are a lot of others. a grade A asshole is never needed, imo. particularly one with the big red button.
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Post by Opti on May 7, 2016 11:26:00 GMT -5
He's got to lose. I don't want this country bombed or war coming to us simply because he decides to act like an ass. I don't think any wars will be started because of what he needed to do get liberal mainstream media attention to win a primary. In case you weren't trying to misunderstand me - I think if we get a President Trump he will cause international incidents that get us bombed or similar.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 11:35:27 GMT -5
Sometimes a "grade- A asshole" is what's needed to do a certain job. A lot of people are really, really tired of namby-pamby, political correctness. I know I am. Going by the Republican primary result, so are a lot of others. a grade A asshole is never needed, imo. particularly one with the big red button. Either a lot of primary voters disagree with you, or have different standards and don't consider him an asshole. I think he fills the "just crazy enough" description to provide a deterrent to aggressors while sitting by that red button. IMO of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 11:36:47 GMT -5
I don't think any wars will be started because of what he needed to do get liberal mainstream media attention to win a primary. In case you weren't trying to misunderstand me - I think if we get a President Trump he will cause international incidents that get us bombed or similar. Answered in post #2776
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Post by Tennesseer on May 7, 2016 16:39:40 GMT -5
If Donald Trump should select Newt Gingrich as his running mate, and if they should happen to win the general election, will all six of their wives be at the inauguration?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 7, 2016 23:38:45 GMT -5
This is the election I thought we'd have in 2012. That block of voters that I knew was ready to administer a beating to the establishment in BOTH parties has finally showed up. I would have preferred they'd show up for Cruz (though, I have to admit-- Cruz's late campaign was a turn-off in almost every way imaginable-- especially persisting with a contested convention strategy after being mathematically eliminated). Hillary is toast. she could be. but i doubt it. This time... do not doubt me. Ever. I knew this was coming. I absolutely knew it. I Just called it early. Literally every thought I had about the election in 2012 is manifesting itself in the GOP primary this year. And there's a tsunami coming in November. Anyone that thinks it won't be Trump should make absolutely certain they're not getting their information from any source that didn't see Trump getting the nomination. www.businessinsider.com/nate-silver-trump-wrong-2016-5Here's the site that had it right the whole time-- they saw the splitter strategy (aka "The GOP Road Map To Victory") designed to get Jeb! the nomination with as little as 5 percent of the vote depending on the state. They saw what they labeled "Cold Anger" of the electorate. And now, as Ryan implodes- for simply hesitating, not even saying "no", we're seeing the Trump wood chipper has not been satiated.
And my personal thoughts are that there are plenty of people- Republican, Democrat, and Independent that know the truth about Hillary and when Trump becomes the first politician to rip into her like should have happened in the 1990's, and rip in to Bill-- all that division in the GOP is going to heal right up as voters cheer the destruction of Hillary Clinton. It's started this weekend, and already she's in trouble with her base calling on her to drop out...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 7, 2016 23:39:11 GMT -5
oh, the site that got it right: conservative tree house.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 7, 2016 23:40:33 GMT -5
Then watch this at about 18:44 and listen to how he says, "I won with women. I love winning with women." -. yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him. Oh, I don't count myself as a supporter-- but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show. The GOP needed to be blown up, and if Trump is the suicide bomber that gets it done- fine by me.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 7, 2016 23:54:00 GMT -5
yeah, and what man doesn't? i know i sure do. the guy is a grade-A asshole, Paul. please don't tell me you are falling in line behind him. Sometimes a "grade- A asshole" is what's needed to do a certain job. A lot of people are really, really tired of namby-pamby, political correctness. I know I am. Going by the Republican primary result, so are a lot of others. Yep. I'll never say Trump isn't an asshole. I will say I'm glad for many things Trump has done. For starters, we can say illegal alien again. And he's just getting warmed up on Crooked Hillary-- did you hear what he said about her? A "mean, nasty enabler" of Bill Clinton's abuse of women... Fauxcohontas this weekend? Holy shit. This is the race we needed to have in 2012. There is NO WAY Hillary survives five weeks, let alone five months of these kind of withering attacks.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 8, 2016 0:13:26 GMT -5
While it was the 'women are subconciously attracted to him' line that made me literally, gag... there is a fair bit of nauseating material in that post. Not the least of which is the man crush Paul seems to have and how he is anxious to attribute the same qualities he bestows on Trump to himself. I have a very weak stomach for narcisism and bullshit. But that probably just means i'm pining away in my deep, deep subcouncious.... No worries. I think Paul and Trump don't realize how many people have a violent reaction to narcissistic BS. Perhaps if you really believe everyone likes that kind of stuff, you can't accept the truth. A big percentage of people find it a major turn off.
I've been having a related discussion with a couple current and former co-workers. Some people like bubbly, false faced people in reception & marketing. And some of us who tend to be more logical and truthful, find such types off-putting. My guess is preference falls based on the person's own personality. I have an instinctive distrust of blowhard self promoters. I like Trump less and less as the campaign continues.
This may be difficult for you to understand because you are an exception, but you transpose your own feelings and views on to others. This is a mistake. I don't fall for BS, either, but that's because I'm well trained. I don't share this information widely, but I'm a trained hypnotist. It's one reason I excel at my work- as an adjuster working for the insurance company, a big part of my job is conveying confidence to experts-- like engineers, and other knowledgeable people investigating a loss; AND I have to tell people things they don't wish to hear: shingles on your roof are slipping because when it was installed, the roofers over-drove the nails (through the shingles). We saw no storm damage. Construction defect, including improper installation, are not covered. You get the idea. I'm able to do this in such a way that the vast majority are accepting of my findings because I've already ensured that they feel like they know me, they like me, and they trust me. They believe I have their best interests at heart. They believe very strongly that I am there to assist them in any and every way that I can. Unfortunately, like them, I am bound by the policy. Just like when you accepted the policy, I also accepted the policy when I took this job.
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Post by Opti on May 8, 2016 0:18:15 GMT -5
I think she can do 5 weeks. I'll start her material if need be. Donald Trump has tons of skeletons that can be lobbed back if that's how he wants to play it. Hillary has developed thick skin. Trump has not. He just tries to trash them completely to feel better. That's not always going to work.
I hope he's not surprised the goofus label is reflecting on him, not Warren.
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