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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 26, 2016 19:36:57 GMT -5
I have to admit, I cringed when the moderator tried to get an immigration policy statement out of Sen. Rubio and he beelined to criticism of Mr. Trump three separate times. The man must have somebody on his staff telling him that he's killing himself, does he not? His campaign is well funded. These are supposedly the "smartest people in the room" advising him. DJ will hate me for this, but I actually find Mr. Trump's facial expressions endearing, which is saying something because I like practically nothing about the man. He stands there with a very closed posture, features taut, and lets Sen. Rubio self-immolate without saying a word. You can practically hear him thinking, "Oh, you're talking about me again. Oh, now you're talking about my claim that I've framed the immigration debate. Oh, now you're talking about how I've employed thousands of workers. Oh, now you're talking about how I've hired thousands of foreign workers; I'm sure the Hispanics in the audience will hate that. Oh, now you're talking about my..." i think he looks like a smug prick. but suit yourself. If I was standing on a national stage with my opponents ostensibly acting as my press secretaries, I'd probably look like a smug prick too.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 26, 2016 19:40:00 GMT -5
They acted like organ grinder monkeys. All Trump need was two leashes.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 19:49:32 GMT -5
conjecture. i will wait for the polling, thanks. Please check out the latest Survey Monkey poll no thanks. i don't do non-scientific polls.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 19:50:13 GMT -5
They acted like organ grinder monkeys. All Trump need was two leashes. let me know when you return from your alternate universe.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 26, 2016 20:05:00 GMT -5
Please check out the latest Survey Monkey poll no thanks. i don't do non-scientific polls. Okay, but you are missing out on why Trump will win. Your loss. Good night, I have to leave now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 22:02:02 GMT -5
no thanks. i don't do non-scientific polls. Okay, but you are missing out on why Trump will win. win what?
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Post by dondub on Feb 26, 2016 22:45:52 GMT -5
Top loser.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2016 23:09:31 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Feb 27, 2016 10:52:09 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/4-reasons-chris-christie-endorsed-donald-trump/ar-BBq3wkQ?li=BBnb7Kz
The only question anyone was asking in the wake of the endorsement was "why"? Or, more accurately, "WHY??!?" After all, Christie had savaged Trump as unelectable just a few weeks ago. So, why the abrupt about-face?
I have four ideas that I think make sense.
1. Christie is a political realist. Anyone not named "Marco Rubio" or "Ted Cruz" can see how this Republican primary race likely ends. And that's with Trump as the GOP nominee. (The math is close to conclusive.) Why not get on board now with Trump and perhaps reap the rewards (more on that below) rather than continue to fight a battle that looks increasingly unwinnable? Christie, like most successful politicians, is a pragmatist, not an idealist. And, for him, this was the most pragmatic move.
2. Christie wants to be in the vice presidential mix. This is the rapidly congealing conventional wisdom aimed at explaining Christie's endorsement.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 27, 2016 11:05:56 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/4-reasons-chris-christie-endorsed-donald-trump/ar-BBq3wkQ?li=BBnb7Kz
The only question anyone was asking in the wake of the endorsement was "why"? Or, more accurately, "WHY??!?" After all, Christie had savaged Trump as unelectable just a few weeks ago. So, why the abrupt about-face?
I have four ideas that I think make sense.
1. Christie is a political realist. Anyone not named "Marco Rubio" or "Ted Cruz" can see how this Republican primary race likely ends. And that's with Trump as the GOP nominee. (The math is close to conclusive.) Why not get on board now with Trump and perhaps reap the rewards (more on that below) rather than continue to fight a battle that looks increasingly unwinnable? Christie, like most successful politicians, is a pragmatist, not an idealist. And, for him, this was the most pragmatic move.
2. Christie wants to be in the vice presidential mix. This is the rapidly congealing conventional wisdom aimed at explaining Christie's endorsement.
he wants to be relevant. like Trump, he is kindof an attention whore.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2016 11:15:48 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 27, 2016 11:37:12 GMT -5
Shades of 2008 when Hillary and Bill had to eat crow endorsing Barrack Obama. Shades of just about every Republican and Democratic nominee for the Presidency by members of their not so loyal oposition during the race for the nomination.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 27, 2016 11:40:49 GMT -5
Okay, but you are missing out on why Trump will win. win what? What the hell is the title of this thread, which incidently, was started by Paul well over seven months ago.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 27, 2016 11:47:14 GMT -5
They acted like organ grinder monkeys. All Trump need was two leashes. let me know when you return from your alternate universe. Just watch your polls. read em and weep.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2016 12:34:35 GMT -5
Shades of 2008 when Hillary and Bill had to eat crow endorsing Barrack Obama. Shades of just about every Republican and Democratic nominee for the Presidency by members of their not so loyal oposition during the race for the nomination. I don't even have to look back to see what Hillary Clinton might have said about President Obama back in 2008 while she was campaigning because what ever she might have said, it would never compare to what Christie said about Trump while he was still a candidate for the Republican nomination.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 12:49:10 GMT -5
He's just taking advantage of everyone's short media watching memory. Works every time. His take on the ability of the Clinton machine being able to beat the junior senator candidate seemed pretty spot on.
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Post by dondub on Feb 28, 2016 13:38:56 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 28, 2016 14:13:29 GMT -5
What the hell is the title of this thread, which incidently, was started by Paul well over seven months ago. no need to get testy. edit: i honestly could not tell if you meant "Super Tuesday", "the nomination", or "the presidency". fine, you are saying Trump will win the presidency. thanks. i feel pretty comfortable saying that is quite unlikely.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 28, 2016 14:14:40 GMT -5
let me know when you return from your alternate universe. Just watch your polls. read em and weep. i am watching them. it shows steady but slow erosion in Trump's national poll numbers. why would that make me weep?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 28, 2016 14:16:30 GMT -5
He's just taking advantage of everyone's short media watching memory. Works every time. His take on the ability of the Clinton machine being able to beat the junior senator candidate seemed pretty spot on. no, it really doesn't work every time. i am not even sure it works most of the time. and Trump has not beaten his junior senator competition, yet. probably best not to boast.
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Post by dondub on Feb 28, 2016 18:42:51 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 28, 2016 22:28:23 GMT -5
Dang it, Just because of DJ stance, I now have to vote for Trump in this primary, Really didn't want to, now I have too. Dang.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 28, 2016 22:44:21 GMT -5
Dang it, Just because of DJ stance, I now have to vote for Trump in this primary, Really didn't want to, now I have too. Dang. what "stance" are you referring to? edit: as an aside, i guess i should be excited to learn that i have this much power over people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 12:46:24 GMT -5
He's just taking advantage of everyone's short media watching memory. Works every time. His take on the ability of the Clinton machine being able to beat the junior senator candidate seemed pretty spot on. no, it really doesn't work every time. i am not even sure it works most of the time. and Trump has not beaten his junior senator competition, yet. probably best not to boast. Just speculating, not boasting.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 1, 2016 12:55:34 GMT -5
no, it really doesn't work every time. i am not even sure it works most of the time. and Trump has not beaten his junior senator competition, yet. probably best not to boast. Just speculating, not boasting. it is tough to tell the difference between assertion and speculation these days. Trump has a way of blurring the lines.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 1, 2016 16:05:01 GMT -5
Once again- I feel like we were making some real progress on substantive opposition to Trump from the right. Along comes the GOP establishment, right on queue, to prop up Trump. You have the establishment clown boy, Rubio, running around like an idiot insinuating Trump has a tiny dick; and you now have a full blown attack on Trump as the racist candidate of white supremacists and the KKK-- which holds exactly NO water. Trump did unquestionably stumble on the question, but it's not because he's a racist (or a xenophobe, or fill-in-the-blank), but because he has an extremely short attention span and isn't that great a listener (no, I'm not buying the ear-piece answer). He's not a politician. He's not steeped in this stuff. He probably forgets from one minute to the next who's who in politics and what's what. It was a "gotcha" question, ripe for a guy whose radar doesn't have a blip on it for "all Republicans are racistsexistbigothomophobes" and thus he has to fend off the label. It hasn't dawned on this newcomer to the party that the traditional ad hominem attacks on Republicans even apply to him at all-- because he's probably not really familiar with them anyway. He probably slept through the ridiculous "war on women" and all the rest of it (which gave him the leeway to talk about Megyn Kelly's wherever).
The reality? The white supremacist / KKK candidate accusations are an attempt to divide Trump from the African American voters that are flocking to him in droves. His national spokesperson is a black female, he's got a LOT of African American voters on board and this is another attack from the establishment base camp that's going to do more to propel Trump than stop him.
If you want to stop Trump, there's one chance: Rubio drops out, the establishment shuts their know-it-all traps and gets out of the way, and we Cruz to victory.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 1, 2016 17:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by fishy999 on Mar 2, 2016 0:44:30 GMT -5
Once again- I feel like we were making some real progress on substantive opposition to Trump from the right. Along comes the GOP establishment, right on queue, to prop up Trump. You have the establishment clown boy, Rubio, running around like an idiot insinuating Trump has a tiny dick; and you now have a full blown attack on Trump as the racist candidate of white supremacists and the KKK-- which holds exactly NO water. Trump did unquestionably stumble on the question, but it's not because he's a racist (or a xenophobe, or fill-in-the-blank), but because he has an extremely short attention span and isn't that great a listener (no, I'm not buying the ear-piece answer). He's not a politician. He's not steeped in this stuff. He probably forgets from one minute to the next who's who in politics and what's what. It was a "gotcha" question, ripe for a guy whose radar doesn't have a blip on it for "all Republicans are racistsexistbigothomophobes" and thus he has to fend off the label. It hasn't dawned on this newcomer to the party that the traditional ad hominem attacks on Republicans even apply to him at all-- because he's probably not really familiar with them anyway. He probably slept through the ridiculous "war on women" and all the rest of it (which gave him the leeway to talk about Megyn Kelly's wherever). The reality? The white supremacist / KKK candidate accusations are an attempt to divide Trump from the African American voters that are flocking to him in droves. His national spokesperson is a black female, he's got a LOT of African American voters on board and this is another attack from the establishment base camp that's going to do more to propel Trump than stop him. If you want to stop Trump, there's one chance: Rubio drops out, the establishment shuts their know-it-all traps and gets out of the way, and we Cruz to victory. Progress? You do realize that Hillary is going to landslide this one right? I agree with Graham- choosing between Cruz and Trump is like choosing death by gunshot or poison. Neither will win the general or come even close- it is just a matter of how bad the GOP is going to be beaten- and IMO Cruz gets beaten a degree harder than Trump.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 2, 2016 1:19:54 GMT -5
half the GOP doesn't want Trump to win the nomination. if even 1/10th of them vote for Hillary or someone else, it is all over for him.
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Post by dondub on Mar 2, 2016 2:07:35 GMT -5
Of course any of the innumerable and as yet unnamed crimes of Hillary could jump up any day now and bite her in the ass. Right? RIGHT? SHOOBY? ZIBI? HICKLE? PAUL?
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