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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 7, 2016 17:13:07 GMT -5
The entertainment and shock value will only get him so far. He admits to not liking losers so let's see how he handles losing.
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Post by marvholly on Jan 8, 2016 6:32:08 GMT -5
I am beginning to wonder what would happen if the media (tv, radio, electronic,, newspapers) had a 1 month ‘diet’ on political reporting. They could discuss/print any/all candidates' POLICY statements/papers but NOT follow then around waiting to pounce on outrageous remarks or foot in mouth gaffs.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 8, 2016 9:38:35 GMT -5
Trump has a rally tonight. Reports of huge crowds. Who? He has alienated women, African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Muslims, Jews, the media. I guess they want to hear his policies. Oh he has none. He's attacking the Clinton's and they've wisely ignored him. He attacked his GOP rivals and they are slugging it out. I assume you are talking about Bernie Sander's lion den, Burlington Vermont. I give him chops for going into a Democratic and Socialist stranglehold and give a rally. Obviously there were a few Republicans that braved the gauntlet, acknowledged their crimes of actually wanting to listen to a Republican IN FRONT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS. We could see some actual lynchings in Vermont for such heresy. Just how many delegates does Vermont actually have anyway?
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Post by fishy999 on Jan 8, 2016 22:19:48 GMT -5
Trump is a Republican? Because he is running as one?
I still see one thing- a man that loves to hear himself talk, work a crowd, attempt to be a stand-up comic, and pretty much would blow himself if he could. He is enjoying the hell out of all this.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 23, 2016 23:19:54 GMT -5
Probably still not enough for Trump supporters to see this guy is insane and bad for the country. "At a campaign stop in Iowa on Saturday, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he could shoot someone in public and still not lose any voters. “They say I have the most loyal people — did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” he said. “It’s like incredible.”" Donald Trump Says He ‘Could Shoot Somebody’ and Not Lose Voters
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2016 23:33:58 GMT -5
actually, he has ZERO voters so far. NONE. voting has not started yet.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jan 24, 2016 0:04:48 GMT -5
I don't frighten easily, but Donald is starting to, well...I think I get it: everyone is sick and tired of the Washington establishment, and so am I...but this?
But I have a naive trust in the collective wisdom of "the people"...you and I. We'll see how this all plays out.
You know, no one ever thought that a grade B actor could ever be president, and then along came Reagan. Interesting times ahead.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 24, 2016 0:42:10 GMT -5
Robert- i think there is reason to be concerned. he is leading in the polls in the first three primary states.
but i give Cruz a 7:5 chance of beating Trump in IA (NOTE: i have favored Cruz to win this state for six weeks now, so this is not much of a change- though i had him at 5:2 odds of beating Trump a month ago). and IF Cruz wins that contest, Trump is going to have a harder time in NH.
i give Trump a less than 50% chance of winning NH. but let's be clear. nobody else has even a 20% chance of winning, so Trump has better odds than most.
there is a distinct possibility, if Cruz and Clinton win in IA that they will win in NH, also.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2016 0:48:04 GMT -5
I don't frighten easily, but Donald is starting to, well...I think I get it: everyone is sick and tired of the Washington establishment, and so am I...but this? But I have a naive trust in the collective wisdom of "the people"...you and I. We'll see how this all plays out. You know, no one ever thought that a grade B actor could ever be president, and then along came Reagan. Interesting times ahead. Reagan at least was elected twice as governor of California. He had an electability and governance track record.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 24, 2016 1:13:13 GMT -5
Trump is a Republican? Because he is running as one? I still see one thing- a man that loves to hear himself talk, work a crowd, attempt to be a stand-up comic, and pretty much would blow himself if he could. He is enjoying the hell out of all this. this is the case that NR is making. that he is so wily and unpredictable he can move from liberal to conservative in the bat of an eye.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 25, 2016 11:42:08 GMT -5
Trump is a Republican? Because he is running as one? I still see one thing- a man that loves to hear himself talk, work a crowd, attempt to be a stand-up comic, and pretty much would blow himself if he could. He is enjoying the hell out of all this. this is the case that NR is making. that he is so wily and unpredictable he can move from liberal to conservative in the bat of an eye. I don't think he is unpredictable - I think he is doing exactly what he thinks he needs to do and say in order to pander to his audience, but he doesn't actually mean any of it. I think he's very similar to L Ron Hubbard, the founder of scientology, only instead of creating a religion to rob the rubes of their money, Trump is creating the facsimile of a political platform to rob the rubes of their votes. Tell them what they want to hear, say a lot of zingy, politically incorrect things on the stump, but should he ever get elected, his focus will be 100% on what it's always been on - his business, and what he can do politically to make an even more friendly environment for his business, and for the businesses of his cronies.
If Trump ever got elected, he wouldn't touch immigration because his business relies on cheap labor that comes from illegal immigration. He's not redoing the tax code, either, because it favors him and his pals too much. Nor will he do anything to specifically target Muslim immigration, because he wants to keep friendly business relations with the Middle Eastern fat cats.
He's all talk but it doesn't mean anything. Should he get elected, his supporters will be immensely disappointed by his failure to stick with any of his campaign promises. But try telling any of them that - right now they are as excited as newly converted Scientologists.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 25, 2016 11:59:23 GMT -5
Trump is now +5% in Iowa
Trump +5 Cruz +15 Rubio +5
still think Trump will lose, but he is looking more likely today.
Bush and Carson are not going to compete here. voters have turned against them. they are polling very badly.
it is between the THREE listed above. nobody else has a chance, imo.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 26, 2016 8:01:24 GMT -5
Based on polls on cable news this morning, Trump is running away from everyone. He was even up to a 58% favorability ranking with Republican voters. Only new poll that had Trump and Cruz within the margin of error in Iowa was the latest Quinipac poll. Other than that, Cruz is toast.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 9:04:02 GMT -5
Yes, Iowa is the end all be all... just ask President Santorum
I know, this isn't exactly the same. But I'm still not willing to call it at Iowa.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2016 11:56:33 GMT -5
Based on polls on cable news this morning, Trump is running away from everyone. He was even up to a 58% favorability ranking with Republican voters. Only new poll that had Trump and Cruz within the margin of error in Iowa was the latest Quinipac poll. Other than that, Cruz is toast. Trump had a 64% favorability rating two months ago, so this is something of a decline for him. your statement about polls within MOE is deceptive, as well. in the last week, THREE of the six polls were within MOE, including one where Cruz was leading. i rate Cruz as a 7:6 favourite to win Iowa.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2016 11:58:54 GMT -5
Yes, Iowa is the end all be all... just ask President Santorum
and president Huckabee.
I know, this isn't exactly the same. But I'm still not willing to call it at Iowa. you shouldn't be willing to call it IN Iowa, either. my guess is that it is a photo finish. but make no mistake, this is a very important primary this year, because all of the Trump loons think their guy is going to run the table. if Cruz wins Iowa, and i suspect he will, it will be a bucket of cold water over the blaring Trumpeters.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 26, 2016 12:42:17 GMT -5
Based on polls on cable news this morning, Trump is running away from everyone. He was even up to a 58% favorability ranking with Republican voters. Only new poll that had Trump and Cruz within the margin of error in Iowa was the latest Quinipac poll. Other than that, Cruz is toast. Trump had a 64% favorability rating two months ago, so this is something of a decline for him. your statement about polls within MOE is deceptive, as well. in the last week, THREE of the six polls were within MOE, including one where Cruz was leading. i rate Cruz as a 7:6 favourite to win Iowa. I know you like to combine polls and tie to the national standings. Look at the individual state poll results. Trump is kicking in the early states by usually double digit, or larger percentage numbers, to the number two person behind him. This is not deceptive. I never would have believed Trump would get these kind of numbers, but unlike you, I am welling to see the trend. We will see who is correct on this issue very soon. I admit it does boil down to people who actually shows up on game day. The amazing thing about Trump, within the Evangelical group, he seems to get a pass on religion. They seem to trust him, even realizing he is not one of them. Cruz's latest ad, showing Trump calling Iowans dumb, which was taken out of context, and Trump stating years ago, he was for partial birth abortion, is not even on the radar with this group. We are seeing a birth of a movement.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 26, 2016 13:04:38 GMT -5
No mention of his three wives or cheating on his first wife and then marrying his mistress to make her wife #2? Strange family values at Liberty University indeed.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2016 13:37:52 GMT -5
Trump had a 64% favorability rating two months ago, so this is something of a decline for him. your statement about polls within MOE is deceptive, as well. in the last week, THREE of the six polls were within MOE, including one where Cruz was leading. i rate Cruz as a 7:6 favourite to win Iowa. I know you like to combine polls and tie to the national standings. Look at the individual state poll results. Trump is kicking in the early states by usually double digit, or larger percentage numbers, to the number two person behind him. This is not deceptive. I never would have believed Trump would get these kind of numbers, but unlike you, I am welling to see the trend. We will see who is correct on this issue very soon. I admit it does boil down to people who actually shows up on game day. The amazing thing about Trump, within the Evangelical group, he seems to get a pass on religion. They seem to trust him, even realizing he is not one of them. Cruz's latest ad, showing Trump calling Iowans dumb, which was taken out of context, and Trump stating years ago, he was for partial birth abortion, is not even on the radar with this group. We are seeing a birth of a movement. if i were to strictly use polls, i would rate Trump as a 3:2 favourite. that make you feel any better? VB- i have upped my game. but i sure as hell am not going to share the other factors i considered here NOW. i will if i am RIGHT. speaking of movements......i think i need to go take a Trump....
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2016 13:39:22 GMT -5
No mention of his three wives or cheating on his first wife and then marrying his mistress to make her wife #2? Strange family values at Liberty University indeed. values, schmalues. they are smelling victory, and they all want to climb on the bandwagon. it will be funny to watch them all go over a cliff, just like they did with Romney.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 26, 2016 16:29:20 GMT -5
No mention of his three wives or cheating on his first wife and then marrying his mistress to make her wife #2? Strange family values at Liberty University indeed. values, schmalues. they are smelling victory, and they all want to climb on the bandwagon. it will be funny to watch them all go over a cliff, just like they did with Romney. I thought they all stayed home. Or was that the Tea Party?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2016 21:44:09 GMT -5
Trump is threatening to drop out of yet ANOTHER debate.
cue the violins.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 26, 2016 23:31:15 GMT -5
Not being happy at all with the Republican and Democratic candidates this election year, I am starting to take a look at lesser known candidates who will probably run as an Independent. Supreme ran for president in 2008 as a Republican and in 2012 as a Democrat. Never heard of him until today but he sure looks interesting and can't be any worse than what we have running for office now. His name is Vermin Supreme and he promises everyone legal resident of the United States a pony and the only law he will pass is a law that everyone must brush their teeth. It's a start. Vermin Supreme
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 27, 2016 9:32:15 GMT -5
Based on polls on cable news this morning, Trump is running away from everyone. He was even up to a 58% favorability ranking with Republican voters. Only new poll that had Trump and Cruz within the margin of error in Iowa was the latest Quinipac poll. Other than that, Cruz is toast. Trump had a 64% favorability rating two months ago, so this is something of a decline for him. your statement about polls within MOE is deceptive, as well. in the last week, THREE of the six polls were within MOE, including one where Cruz was leading. i rate Cruz as a 7:6 favourite to win Iowa. dj, I have to ask for link on the 64% favorability rating. I simply do not remember his popularity factor ever being higher than it is now, unless you are talking about his base of faithful followers.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 27, 2016 9:34:25 GMT -5
Trump is threatening to drop out of yet ANOTHER debate. cue the violins. Trump officially owns Fox News Network. Now there are people saying it's a conspiracy of Roger Ailes and Trump to propel him to the nomination. It is a shame he is treated more fairly by Chris Mathews on MSNBC than by some commentators on Fox.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 27, 2016 11:58:00 GMT -5
Trump had a 64% favorability rating two months ago, so this is something of a decline for him. your statement about polls within MOE is deceptive, as well. in the last week, THREE of the six polls were within MOE, including one where Cruz was leading. i rate Cruz as a 7:6 favourite to win Iowa. dj, I have to ask for link on the 64% favorability rating. I simply do not remember his popularity factor ever being higher than it is now, unless you are talking about his base of faithful followers. i don't have time to look for it right now, but i got it at 538. here is what i found this morning: www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/14/poll-donald-trump-favorability-surges-among-republican-voters/
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 27, 2016 11:58:36 GMT -5
Trump is threatening to drop out of yet ANOTHER debate. cue the violins. Trump officially owns Fox News Network. Now there are people saying it's a conspiracy of Roger Ailes and Trump to propel him to the nomination. It is a shame he is treated more fairly by Chris Mathews on MSNBC than by some commentators on Fox. that's one way of describing it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2016 13:27:42 GMT -5
actually, he has ZERO voters so far. NONE. voting has not started yet. It's the only remaining hope that I cling to. I'm not optimistic that this doesn't play out where Trump wins literally EVERY primary state, and goes on to trounce the Democrat.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 27, 2016 13:36:38 GMT -5
actually, he has ZERO voters so far. NONE. voting has not started yet. It's the only remaining hope that I cling to. I'm not optimistic that this doesn't play out where Trump wins literally EVERY primary state, and goes on to trounce the Democrat. i doubt both contentions, though the former is more likely than the latter. i still think Cruz is going to win in IA. don't you?
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