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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 23, 2015 16:48:50 GMT -5
Head to Mexico! There is a big one brewing there. Yeah, it's REALLY bad. Loss of life is almost assured- in spite of warnings. It is the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere. I'll go for the dough, and probably stay for the relief effort. I hoping to bring plenty of relief supplies with me-- We are researching what it takes to get a truck across the border- we've already determined we can't rent one from any of the major providers-- they don't want you taking it over the border. We might just buy one. it is not an easy place to get to by truck, but it can be done. the coastal mountains are pretty high, the roads are windy, and i would expect a lot of mudslides and downed power lines.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 23, 2015 22:52:55 GMT -5
This dog will hunt. This explains Trump's appeal very well: The Trump Wollman Ice Rink, E 59th & 5th Ave Central Park. The rink was closed in 1980 for an announced 2 years of renovations and still not completed by the City of New York by the end of 1986. The city has spent 6 years and $12 million dollars I guess trying to work out how to make ice in the winter? Donald Trump took over the project, and at $0 cost to the taxpayers, completed renovations in 3 months- 2 months ahead of schedule, and $750,000 under budget. During the summer, the rink is converted to an equestrian ring for 5 days for the Rolex Central Park horse show which brings world class show jumping and riding to New York City. There are a LOT of examples of under-the-radar stuff Trump has done-- stuff he doesn't talk about, hasn't mentioned in years, probably has forgotten about-- that really show what kind of leader he'll be. So why are you rooting for Cruz? Not to mention that you're the one who started this "Get Used to President Trump" thread. Why are you backing a loser?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 24, 2015 9:04:12 GMT -5
This dog will hunt. This explains Trump's appeal very well: The Trump Wollman Ice Rink, E 59th & 5th Ave Central Park. The rink was closed in 1980 for an announced 2 years of renovations and still not completed by the City of New York by the end of 1986. The city has spent 6 years and $12 million dollars I guess trying to work out how to make ice in the winter? Donald Trump took over the project, and at $0 cost to the taxpayers, completed renovations in 3 months- 2 months ahead of schedule, and $750,000 under budget. During the summer, the rink is converted to an equestrian ring for 5 days for the Rolex Central Park horse show which brings world class show jumping and riding to New York City. There are a LOT of examples of under-the-radar stuff Trump has done-- stuff he doesn't talk about, hasn't mentioned in years, probably has forgotten about-- that really show what kind of leader he'll be. So why are you rooting for Cruz? Not to mention that you're the one who started this "Get Used to President Trump" thread. Why are you backing a loser?
I'm supporting Cruz because he's actually done what Trump and Carson are promising to do. He upset the establishment in Texas- beating Bush family friend David Dewhurst (which is why the Bushstablishment hates him and has designed the entire GOP elite " splitter strategy" around him). What is fascinating to me about Trump is that Trump is the wildcard that has upset the splitter strategy. In fact, they've already had to work feverishly to modify the splitter strategy factor in Trump.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 24, 2015 9:44:16 GMT -5
As to #1, you asserted credibility on the CEO opinion based on the claim that you are one. I simply asked what size company, how many employees, and how many countries are you operating in? none of your business.You have now dodged the question twice. A simple none of your business would be an acceptable answer-- you'd be right. It isn't. I'm just curious because all CEO's are not created equal, and your experience may or may not be comparable. comparable to who? trump? no. i have not presided over any bankruptcies, for example. I'm going to be generous and chalk this up to ignorance rather than dishonesty. Trump has never 'presided over' a bankruptcy. He had a minority position in the two companies that declared bankruptcy. He attempted a work out where the creditors would have received MORE than what was promised, but under new terms. They declined, forcing the bankruptcies. It happens. i am in a position to judge him as a CEO, and i think he is a good one. the question then becomes- does this translate well to the presidency? you seem to think the answer is absurd to even consider. consider it. You know full well that I both consider Trump to be a good CEO, and I think this would translate well to the Presidency. His main challenge will be that members of the club-- lawyers all-- will be attempting to trip him up legally as many different ways as they can, and he will NOT get the pass Obama has gotten. If Trump does 1% of the illegal and unconstitutional nonsense Obama has done, even on accident-- he'll be impeached. I think the media and political elites will be talking impeachment on election night when Fox calls Ohio and Florida.
And actually, I don't believe you are in a good position to judge Trump as a CEO because I don't think you're anywhere near his level of experience or success. If you were, you'd know better than to brag about never having had a failure. I deal with all kinds of people, and I have a list of "tells" to identify the minor league players with big league mouths-- #1 on the list is bragging about a track record that does not include failure.
(Bonus material: #2 is spending an inordinate amount of time on the details of the contract and/or expecting to chew up my time discussing them directly with me. You want to make a change- make a change and send it back with the changes noted and I'll review it. I've never actually had a written contract with my biggest investor. I've sent them to him, he never reads them, never signs them, he just sends the money and his basic terms and we do everything on a handshake. #3 is like unto #1, and it is bragging about 'credentials' and trying to sell me a resume. I appreciate your degree, and I might even be impressed if it's from Wharton, or University of Chicago. I don't care about your previous positions. What I want to know most is what skills you bring to the table, and what you have accomplished. Your degree, position, and number of years at Good Neighbor Insurance co don't really tell me anything.)
As to things you're blind to, and/or that you don't understand-- the fact is that "pressing for details" is not sincere-- it's a tactic. What's driving people like you up the wall is that Trump isn't falling for it. He's not playing by your rules. He's saying we need to do a, b, c, and d and if you agree- vote for me and don't worry about the sausage making. I'll get it done. And I think what genuinely scares the piss out of the establishment is that details notwithstanding- they KNOW he has a record of getting things done. no. pressing for details is sincere. you showed me his website, where i found information on his tax plan, which is horrible. i found nothing on his wall. how would it be done? how much would it cost? he claims that Mexico would pay for it- which they laugh at. so, how, again? how does ANYTHING HE SAYS HE WILL DO happen? magically? does he declare martial law and just do it? Just because Trump is unwilling to get into the mundane details of the execution of his policies doesn't equate to faith, trust, and pixie dust. We all know the "what". What is the main thing, not how. See the ice rink post. This is what people can expect to happen in a Trump administration.these are sincere questions, Paul. don't doubt my sincerity. ever. You would definitely prefer that I doubt your sincerity given the other doubts I might have absent you just fucking around here- like intelligence or integrity.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 24, 2015 9:46:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it's REALLY bad. Loss of life is almost assured- in spite of warnings. It is the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere. I'll go for the dough, and probably stay for the relief effort. I hoping to bring plenty of relief supplies with me-- We are researching what it takes to get a truck across the border- we've already determined we can't rent one from any of the major providers-- they don't want you taking it over the border. We might just buy one. it is not an easy place to get to by truck, but it can be done. the coastal mountains are pretty high, the roads are windy, and i would expect a lot of mudslides and downed power lines. We're skipping the truck. The contract I have is for initial damage assessment for a commercial client. Near as I can tell-- we're walking a good bit of the way.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2015 14:03:07 GMT -5
no. pressing for details is sincere. you showed me his website, where i found information on his tax plan, which is horrible. i found nothing on his wall. how would it be done? how much would it cost? he claims that Mexico would pay for it- which they laugh at. so, how, again? how does ANYTHING HE SAYS HE WILL DO happen? magically? does he declare martial law and just do it? Just because Trump is unwilling to get into the mundane details of the execution of his policies doesn't equate to faith, trust, and pixie dust. We all know the "what". What is the main thing, not how. See the ice rink post. This is what people can expect to happen in a Trump administration.these are sincere questions, Paul. don't doubt my sincerity. ever. You would definitely prefer that I doubt your sincerity given the other doubts I might have absent you just fucking around here- like intelligence or integrity. sorry, but that is a personal attack. not going to respond to that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2015 14:12:47 GMT -5
comparable to who? trump? no. i have not presided over any bankruptcies, for example.
I'm going to be generous and chalk this up to ignorance rather than dishonesty. Trump has never 'presided over' a bankruptcy. He had a minority position in the two companies that declared bankruptcy. He attempted a work out where the creditors would have received MORE than what was promised, but under new terms. They declined, forcing the bankruptcies. It happens.
yes, it does. it was a snarky remark. don't read too much into it.
i am in a position to judge him as a CEO, and i think he is a good one. the question then becomes- does this translate well to the presidency? you seem to think the answer is absurd to even consider. consider it.
You know full well that I both consider Trump to be a good CEO,
actually, no. i didn't KNOW that. but i assumed it.
and I think this would translate well to the Presidency. His main challenge will be that members of the club-- lawyers all-- will be attempting to trip him up legally as many different ways as they can, and he will NOT get the pass Obama has gotten. If Trump does 1% of the illegal and unconstitutional nonsense Obama has done, even on accident-- he'll be impeached. I think the media and political elites will be talking impeachment on election night when Fox calls Ohio and Florida.
i think CEOs have serious shortcomings as POTUS's. they make great dictators, however.
And actually, I don't believe you are in a good position to judge Trump as a CEO because I don't think you're anywhere near his level of experience or success.
i think i have done just fine, Paul. but since we both agree that he is a good CEO, why are you even bringing this up?
If you were, you'd know better than to brag about never having had a failure. I deal with all kinds of people, and I have a list of "tells" to identify the minor league players with big league mouths-- #1 on the list is bragging about a track record that does not include failure.
well, sorry that i never failed, i guess. i am a very conservative businessman, and an assiduous planner. if i make mistakes, i have contingency plans. but yes, it is true, i gravitate toward very predictable business interests- stuff that is very unlikely to fail, in the first place. Trump takes bigger risks than me, and i would rather not see that particular characteristic in a CIC.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 26, 2015 11:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 26, 2015 11:13:49 GMT -5
I guess the theory is that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Here, I'll do some quick edits to help the Chicago Tribune: While Trump and Carson are popular in primary election polls, both have used divisive rhetoric in recent months that alienated some minorities. Trump called Mexican immigrants [stated many illegal aliens] from Mexico rapists and criminals during his announcement speech, [a statement that has been confirmed by voluminous data which continues to get worse and is still being reported on] while Carson said he would not support a Muslim presidential candidate [he would not trust a Sharia compliant muslim as POTUS because sharia is incompatible with the Constitution- something no serious person would dispute].
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 26, 2015 12:39:23 GMT -5
Twenty-two percent of Caucus Republicans said Trump has a 50-50 shot at becoming the Republican nominee; the same percentage said he has a 30 percent chance. The rest of the respondents were divided, with the majority saying his odds are still less than 50 percent. But more than 8-in-10 GOP respondents said those are better odds than they gave Trump a month ago.
Read more: www.politico.com/story/2015/10/insiders-trump-nomination-looking-more-likely-215087#ixzz3phEUeEwL
Interesting wording. 22% 50-50 22% 30-70 he will be So 56% left - majority say less than 50-50. At least 24% have it at less than 50-50 So at least 46% have it as less than 50-50 likelihood that Trump will be nominated. At least 68% have it as best 50-50 or less.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 26, 2015 21:04:19 GMT -5
In the case of Hillary, you don't have to wait for the high crimes and misdemeanors. She's already committed them- at the very least, she lied under oath this week.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 26, 2015 21:06:42 GMT -5
This is where Trump could be more politically adept. The fact is that there's never been a nominee, let alone a President named Santorum, or Huckabee. I realize that perhaps Trump doesn't want to insult the Iowa voters anymore than he already has-- but c'mon. Iowa doesn't matter that much when you're leading ALL the GOP candidates in NH- combined; and you've still got double digit leads in SC, NC, and FL.
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Post by fishy999 on Oct 26, 2015 21:56:53 GMT -5
Know why he looks like a corpse now- cuz he's dead as a candidate- he really thinks he has a shot- you can tell it in his voice. His whole campaign is be careful what you wish for- some idiots might make it come true. The question is not why Trump is leading- it is why the rest of the candidates suck so much ass
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Post by tallguy on Oct 26, 2015 22:01:26 GMT -5
Because they're not very good? Nah, that can't be it....
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 26, 2015 22:07:03 GMT -5
... Iowa doesn't matter that much when you're leading ALL the GOP candidates in NH- combined; ... Donald Trump commands the field in New Hampshire, according to the results of a Bloomberg Politics/St. Anselm College poll of Republican voters in the state released Wednesday morning.
Trump earned 24 percent compared to 17 percent for Ben Carson. In third place is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 10 percent, followed by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 8 percent, Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 7 percent each, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 5 percent and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at 4 percent. Other candidates drew no more than 1 percent support, with 9 percent undecided.
Read more: www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-gop-field-new-hampshire-donald-trump-leads-214990#ixzz3pjaLdQF1 Hmmmmm.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 27, 2015 13:00:56 GMT -5
... Iowa doesn't matter that much when you're leading ALL the GOP candidates in NH- combined; ... Donald Trump commands the field in New Hampshire, according to the results of a Bloomberg Politics/St. Anselm College poll of Republican voters in the state released Wednesday morning.
Trump earned 24 percent compared to 17 percent for Ben Carson. In third place is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 10 percent, followed by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 8 percent, Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 7 percent each, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 5 percent and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at 4 percent. Other candidates drew no more than 1 percent support, with 9 percent undecided.
Read more: www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-gop-field-new-hampshire-donald-trump-leads-214990#ixzz3pjaLdQF1 Hmmmmm. Apples and Oranges. The poll that shows Trump trailing Carson nationally is CBS. So, I am using the same polling organization. www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-10-25/trump-carson-tied-in-iowa-trump-leads-in-n-h-cbs-news-pollIn New Hampshire: Trump 38%, Carson 12%, Bush 8%...
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... you're leading ALL the GOP candidates in NH- combined; ...Okay. Let us use your numbers: 12+8+7+7+5+5+4+2+1+1+0+0+0+0=52>38
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Trump: I Would Have Prevented the Asteroid From Killing the DinosaursNEW YORK, Ny. – During an interview Monday morning on Fox & Friends, Republican presidential frontrunner and billionaire entrepreneur Donald Trump said had he been alive 65 million years ago, he would have prevented the six-mile wide asteroid, which impacted the earth and caused a mass extinction, from wiping out the dinosaurs. “You have these people, these scientists, who say ‘bad luck’ killed the dinosaurs. That’s categorically false,” Trump told Fox & Friends co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck. “Poor planning and lack of organization killed the dinosaurs.” Comparing prehistoric life to American politics, Trump said, “You’ve got the carnivores on one hand and the herbivores on the other. They can’t agree on anything; there’s no common ground. Me, I make deals for a living and you know what, I’m very good at it. I would have found that common ground.” “You take my experience, my decades upon decades of experience with high-stakes negotiations, and you put me on the ground sixty or seventy-five million years ago,” Trump said, continuing, “The dinosaurs would be alive today. We’d be coexisting with them in perfect harmony. That’s a fact.” When asked by Hasselbeck as to what kind of dinosaur he would be, Trump dodged the question, calling it irrelevant. “I’m not going to answer that,” he snapped before abruptly changing the subject to immigration. Some sixty-five million years ago, dinosaurs, which existed from the beginning of the Jurassic period until the end of the Cretaceous period, were the dominant species on earth. Scientists believe an asteroid known as the Chicxulub, which struck the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, leaving a 180 kilometer wide crater, led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Trump: I Would Have Prevented the Asteroid From Killing the DinosaursWhat can't Trump do! .
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Post by tallguy on Oct 27, 2015 19:42:33 GMT -5
Gee, all of these outlandish claims about what Trump can do must really put Chuck Norris in a tough spot. How does he support someone who is clearly trying to claim Chuck's powers as his own?
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Trump: I Would Have Prevented the Asteroid From Killing the DinosaursNEW YORK, Ny. – During an interview Monday morning on Fox & Friends, Republican presidential frontrunner and billionaire entrepreneur Donald Trump said had he been alive 65 million years ago, he would have prevented the six-mile wide asteroid, which impacted the earth and caused a mass extinction, from wiping out the dinosaurs. “You have these people, these scientists, who say ‘bad luck’ killed the dinosaurs. That’s categorically false,” Trump told Fox & Friends co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck. “Poor planning and lack of organization killed the dinosaurs.” Comparing prehistoric life to American politics, Trump said, “You’ve got the carnivores on one hand and the herbivores on the other. They can’t agree on anything; there’s no common ground. Me, I make deals for a living and you know what, I’m very good at it. I would have found that common ground.” “You take my experience, my decades upon decades of experience with high-stakes negotiations, and you put me on the ground sixty or seventy-five million years ago,” Trump said, continuing, “The dinosaurs would be alive today. We’d be coexisting with them in perfect harmony. That’s a fact.” When asked by Hasselbeck as to what kind of dinosaur he would be, Trump dodged the question, calling it irrelevant. “I’m not going to answer that,” he snapped before abruptly changing the subject to immigration. Some sixty-five million years ago, dinosaurs, which existed from the beginning of the Jurassic period until the end of the Cretaceous period, were the dominant species on earth. Scientists believe an asteroid known as the Chicxulub, which struck the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, leaving a 180 kilometer wide crater, led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Trump: I Would Have Prevented the Asteroid From Killing the DinosaursWhat can't Trump do! . ROTFLMAO! Thanks for that website. It's hysterical! You know what's even funnier? The brain-dead knuckle-draggers who think it's real. Get a load of these frothing-at-the-mouth Obama-haters in the Comments section. OMG! Too funny!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 28, 2015 8:40:27 GMT -5
... you're leading ALL the GOP candidates in NH- combined; ...Okay. Let us use your numbers: 12+8+7+7+5+5+4+2+1+1+0+0+0+0=52>38 I didn't because there aren't really that many viable contenders for the nomination. In fact, I was generous including the candidates I did. Looking at grass roots organization, and money-- there are really only four candidates in the race: Trump, Carson, Cruz, & Bush.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 28, 2015 9:31:35 GMT -5
Good choice capitalizing the "ALL" in this statement then....
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 28, 2015 13:23:19 GMT -5
"If I lose Iowa. I'll never speak to you people again!" He's having quite the trumper tantrum. Reminds me of a petulant four year old.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 28, 2015 14:51:13 GMT -5
"If I lose Iowa. I'll never speak to you people again!" He's having quite the trumper tantrum. Reminds me of a petulant four year old. Did you even listen to his speech? He was having a blast with the audience. It was all in good fun. He was making fun of everything. Te cable news outlets wondered how Trump would publicly handle the fall in the polls. Trump handled it with making fun of the entire situation with a little NYC humor. He was winning hearts and minds of the public.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 28, 2015 17:47:28 GMT -5
Trump is starting to sound like a loser. Donald Trump: CNBC debate will be 'unfair'Donald Trump is already convinced the CNBC GOP primary debate on Wednesday night will be stacked against him. Despite his long history with CNBC, having been featured in regular segments and flattering specials such as "CNBC Titans" and "Billionaire Inside," Trump told POLITICO and said in two tweets that he thinks the debate would not be fair. "No, I don't expect the debate to be fair," Trump told POLITICO on Monday. "After a great evening and packed auditorium in Iowa, I am now in Colorado looking forward to what I am sure will be a very unfair debate!" Trump tweeted on Wednesday morning, followed by ".@cnbc continues to report fictious poll numbers. Number one, based on every statistic, is Trump (by a wide margin). They just can't say it!" For their part, moderators Carl Quintanilla, Becky Quick and John Harwood have all pledged to be fair and give equal time to all the candidates. Donald Trump: CNBC debate will be 'unfair'
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