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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 20, 2015 15:24:12 GMT -5
CEO of what size enterprise? How many employees do you have, how many countries do you operate in? However, my main point to you is this: you are misreading Trump. If you think he's all swagger, and no substance-- you probably still don't understand Reagan. i didn't pass credentials because i am CEO of a large enterprise. i claimed it because i carefully observe what other CEO's do, and understand the basic job. i never said he is all swagger and no substance. i said his campaign is. correctly. but i will add the following: the substance that he has provided shows that he has no substance in terms of those topics. they are simple minded ideas that are uniformly terrible, imo. 1. Dodge. Noted. 2. Trump IS the Trump campaign. The fact that you don't know this is illustrative of the fact that you simply don't "get" what you're seeing. 3. Again, you're misreading Trump's leadership style. He has provide both more detail, AND more substance than any other candidate so far, no exceptions. I honestly think that you have a kind of blindness to certain things you don't relate to or understand. If Trump gets the nomination, I'm not going to predict he'll win. I'm going to guarantee it. If all the GOP cared about was winning, they'd get behind him. What's most important to the GOP is cooperating with the globalist agenda and basically helping the Democrats "manage the decline" of the United States. They want the status quo as, in their view, a worst case scenario. What they really want is full blown statism. They'd like to blame it on Democrats, and for political reason pretend to be trying to stop it-- but they want it because they can't wait to get their hands on the levers of power once it's all in place. They don't quite get that it is not sustainable. They think in terms of management- if the GOP just gets in control, they'll manage it better. They don't think in terms of things like ObamaCare being illegal, immoral, unsustainable, and completely unacceptable. No, that would be "extreme". And their attitude pretty much explains the implosion of the GOP. Trump isn't going to play the establishment, or media and political elite's game. He isn't just talking. He doesn't like these guys, and he's not pretending to. He is going to beat Jeb Bush like a red headed step child, and he's going absolutely pummel Bernie Sanders in the general election.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 20, 2015 16:04:53 GMT -5
i didn't pass credentials because i am CEO of a large enterprise. i claimed it because i carefully observe what other CEO's do, and understand the basic job. i never said he is all swagger and no substance. i said his campaign is. correctly. but i will add the following: the substance that he has provided shows that he has no substance in terms of those topics. they are simple minded ideas that are uniformly terrible, imo. 1. Dodge. Noted. no dodge. clarification. i am sure he is a bright guy. he is just a bright guy that has no idea what he is getting himself into, imo. he is also a bright guy who obsesses over stupid shit like birth certificates, which i find pretty annoying. and a bright guy that talks smack about everyone, which is a bad way to sell yourself, imo. if you are really good, you don't need to tell everyone how bad everyone else is. qed, he is probably not all that great. i could go on and on, actually, but i won't. we can talk more in January, if he is still leading in the polls. which i doubt.2. Trump IS the Trump campaign. The fact that you don't know this is illustrative of the fact that you simply don't "get" what you're seeing. cool. so, why again should i vote for this guy? because he is Trump? sorry, but....no.3. Again, you're misreading Trump's leadership style. He has provide both more detail, AND more substance than any other candidate so far, no exceptions. no, i am not. his leadership style is to say he can get stuff done. when people press him for details, he presents plans that are utterly unworkable. i would imagine that he does better than that in business, but i have no way of telling based on his policy choices.I honestly think that you have a kind of blindness to certain things you don't relate to or understand. If Trump gets the nomination, I'm not going to predict he'll win. I'm going to guarantee it. that and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee, Paul. uttterly....meaningless. your political guarantees have no value here. go talk to someone who has not spent over a decade listening to them. i like you just fine as a person, but your record as a forecaster is dismal.If all the GOP cared about was winning, they'd get behind him. What's most important to the GOP is cooperating with the globalist agenda and basically helping the Democrats "manage the decline" of the United States. They want the status quo as, in their view, a worst case scenario. What they really want is full blown statism. They'd like to blame it on Democrats, and for political reason pretend to be trying to stop it-- but they want it because they can't wait to get their hands on the levers of power once it's all in place. They don't quite get that it is not sustainable. They think in terms of management- if the GOP just gets in control, they'll manage it better. They don't think in terms of things like ObamaCare being illegal, immoral, unsustainable, and completely unacceptable. No, that would be "extreme". And their attitude pretty much explains the implosion of the GOP. Trump isn't going to play the establishment, or media and political elite's game. He isn't just talking. He doesn't like these guys, and he's not pretending to. He is going to beat Jeb Bush like a red headed step child, and he's going absolutely pummel Bernie Sanders in the general election. good for him. but i still see zero reason to vote for him, thusfar. everyone talks a good game in politics. except maybe Lincoln Chafee.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 20, 2015 18:24:26 GMT -5
1. Dodge. Noted. no dodge. clarification. i am sure he is a bright guy. he is just a bright guy that has no idea what he is getting himself into, imo. he is also a bright guy who obsesses over stupid shit like birth certificates, which i find pretty annoying. and a bright guy that talks smack about everyone, which is a bad way to sell yourself, imo. if you are really good, you don't need to tell everyone how bad everyone else is. qed, he is probably not all that great. i could go on and on, actually, but i won't. we can talk more in January, if he is still leading in the polls. which i doubt.2. Trump IS the Trump campaign. The fact that you don't know this is illustrative of the fact that you simply don't "get" what you're seeing. cool. so, why again should i vote for this guy? because he is Trump? sorry, but....no.3. Again, you're misreading Trump's leadership style. He has provide both more detail, AND more substance than any other candidate so far, no exceptions. no, i am not. his leadership style is to say he can get stuff done. when people press him for details, he presents plans that are utterly unworkable. i would imagine that he does better than that in business, but i have no way of telling based on his policy choices.I honestly think that you have a kind of blindness to certain things you don't relate to or understand. If Trump gets the nomination, I'm not going to predict he'll win. I'm going to guarantee it. that and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee, Paul. uttterly....meaningless. your political guarantees have no value here. go talk to someone who has not spent over a decade listening to them. i like you just fine as a person, but your record as a forecaster is dismal.If all the GOP cared about was winning, they'd get behind him. What's most important to the GOP is cooperating with the globalist agenda and basically helping the Democrats "manage the decline" of the United States. They want the status quo as, in their view, a worst case scenario. What they really want is full blown statism. They'd like to blame it on Democrats, and for political reason pretend to be trying to stop it-- but they want it because they can't wait to get their hands on the levers of power once it's all in place. They don't quite get that it is not sustainable. They think in terms of management- if the GOP just gets in control, they'll manage it better. They don't think in terms of things like ObamaCare being illegal, immoral, unsustainable, and completely unacceptable. No, that would be "extreme". And their attitude pretty much explains the implosion of the GOP. Trump isn't going to play the establishment, or media and political elite's game. He isn't just talking. He doesn't like these guys, and he's not pretending to. He is going to beat Jeb Bush like a red headed step child, and he's going absolutely pummel Bernie Sanders in the general election. good for him. but i still see zero reason to vote for him, thusfar. everyone talks a good game in politics. except maybe Lincoln Chafee. As to #1, you asserted credibility on the CEO opinion based on the claim that you are one. I simply asked what size company, how many employees, and how many countries are you operating in? You have now dodged the question twice. A simple none of your business would be an acceptable answer-- you'd be right. It isn't. I'm just curious because all CEO's are not created equal, and your experience may or may not be comparable. As to things you're blind to, and/or that you don't understand-- the fact is that "pressing for details" is not sincere-- it's a tactic. What's driving people like you up the wall is that Trump isn't falling for it. He's not playing by your rules. He's saying we need to do a, b, c, and d and if you agree- vote for me and don't worry about the sausage making. I'll get it done. And I think what genuinely scares the piss out of the establishment is that details notwithstanding- they KNOW he has a record of getting things done.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 20, 2015 18:36:39 GMT -5
good for him. but i still see zero reason to vote for him, thusfar. everyone talks a good game in politics. except maybe Lincoln Chafee. As to #1, you asserted credibility on the CEO opinion based on the claim that you are one. I simply asked what size company, how many employees, and how many countries are you operating in? none of your business.You have now dodged the question twice. A simple none of your business would be an acceptable answer-- you'd be right. It isn't. I'm just curious because all CEO's are not created equal, and your experience may or may not be comparable. comparable to who? trump? no. i have not presided over any bankruptcies, for example. i am in a position to judge him as a CEO, and i think he is a good one. the question then becomes- does this translate well to the presidency? you seem to think the answer is absurd to even consider. consider it.As to things you're blind to, and/or that you don't understand-- the fact is that "pressing for details" is not sincere-- it's a tactic. What's driving people like you up the wall is that Trump isn't falling for it. He's not playing by your rules. He's saying we need to do a, b, c, and d and if you agree- vote for me and don't worry about the sausage making. I'll get it done. And I think what genuinely scares the piss out of the establishment is that details notwithstanding- they KNOW he has a record of getting things done. no. pressing for details is sincere. you showed me his website, where i found information on his tax plan, which is horrible. i found nothing on his wall. how would it be done? how much would it cost? he claims that Mexico would pay for it- which they laugh at. so, how, again? how does ANYTHING HE SAYS HE WILL DO happen? magically? does he declare martial law and just do it? these are sincere questions, Paul. don't doubt my sincerity. ever.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 20, 2015 20:49:01 GMT -5
Maybe it's sincere from you, but there's never been a political candidate that won with a 123 point detailed wonky plan, certainly never one that won big. Let me tell you what *I* am looking for, and I'll provide an example. Donald Trump is correct that the masters of the universe- the elite, self-styled ruling class in America has surrendered. Their mindset is one of managing the inevitable decline of the United States, and moving towards a world where the US is just one of a cadre of nations that they can pick and choose from as a place to invest, do business, and live. They are not patriots, and they are not loyal to this country. In their insular world- the echo chamber that they live in, they see a glorious, borderless, global economic utopia-- they see only upside, they don't grasp the dangers, they don't see the world as it is: on fire. Most are ignorant of who our enemies are, and those that know are convinced that there's no enemy that is beyond appeasement. They don't see the current global hejira underway for what it is. They are the same people that have welcomed or been apathetic in the face of a $19 trillion and mounting national debt; $200 trillion in unfunded liabilities, 98 million on welfare, 48 million in poverty, and a record low workforce participation rate. They don't see a problem with QE infinity and the inevitable inflation and collapse of the dollar that's coming. In their minds there's one problem, and one enemy: us. They look at the election results from 2010 and 2014- they look at the state legislatures, the governor's mansions, the US house and senate-- and they don't wonder what they can do to represent us, they wonder what the fuck is wrong with us, and how many illegal aliens it's going to take to tamp down our votes and eventually subjugate us. They wonder what pretext will be effective in disarming us, because they rightly fear bullets when they've finally succeeded in eliminating ballots. These are the people that have been consistently soft on radical islam, and weak on immigration- not because they're incompetent, but because the problems they both create for us are solutions and opportunities for them. To the point that they don't respect the dangers- that is why this cadre of elites didn't connect the dots before 9/11/01. That's why they sat idly by and let 9/11/13 happen. That's why many still can't utter the words "radical islamic terrorism". I say all that to say this: what I'm looking for is someone smart, but tough as nails- smart enough to see in the age of detente that the Soviets area mortal danger, and tough enough to walk out when they won't negotiate in good faith, and shrewd enough to be both when he challenges them publicly to do the thing they will inevitably do anyway: tear down the Berlin Wall.
This week I saw in Donald Trump the single best political play I've seen in a very long time- maybe in my lifetime. Donald Trump may have actually just won the election this week. He very shrewdly played the establishment like a fiddle, in particular- the Bushocracy. He skunked them. He totally set them up, and they walked right into it. He beat them at their game. I know for a fact that Jeb Bush's presidential aspirations ended this week, and it is not because of his already lackluster performance. It is because Donald Trump threw the best timed, hardest knockout punch I can remember seeing. Trump set a trap for everyone, and they walked right into it. Trump knows the pattern: say something fairly obvious and benign that offends your thin-skinned elitist target. Wait for media and political class "outrage"...and here's where Trump has figured out the game: when the dust settles, calmly explain why he was exactly right; and nail the opposition with their own words of agreement with Trump. However, that wasn't the biggest play. What Trump did this week was to completely and forever undo what Jeb! has been trying to do for two straight years: He attacked W to lure Jeb in and tie Jeb politically to the legacy of George W. Bush, and Jeb! walked right into it. Now it's done- and I'm not even sure they know what Trump just did. Now, you can not like what he said, you can disagree with it- but Trump knows "this, too, shall pass". Maybe he meant what he said, maybe not. It had absolutely nothing to do with what he was doing.
www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/10/20/trump_s_9_11_play_beats_the_political_insiders_at_their_own_game_brilliantly
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 20, 2015 20:58:20 GMT -5
Maybe it's sincere from you, but there's never been a political candidate that won with a 123 point detailed wonky plan,
red herring. i never said 123 point plan. he doesn't even have a ONE point plan, Paul. you know what? never mind. i don't want to talk about this guy any more until January. if he is still leading, which i seriously doubt, THEN we will have a discussion. i have said that i basically like the guy. i just don't like his campaign. AT ALL. laters.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 20, 2015 21:07:50 GMT -5
Maybe it's sincere from you, but there's never been a political candidate that won with a 123 point detailed wonky plan,
red herring. i never said 123 point plan. he doesn't even have a ONE point plan, Paul. you know what? never mind. i don't want to talk about this guy any more until January. if he is still leading, which i seriously doubt, THEN we will have a discussion. i have said that i basically like the guy. i just don't like his campaign. AT ALL. laters. Of course he does. You're the other part of the problem. You're like those people that think the GOP doesn't have an alternative to ObamaCare. All you have to do is read: www.donaldjtrump.com
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 20, 2015 21:09:10 GMT -5
Maybe it's sincere from you, but there's never been a political candidate that won with a 123 point detailed wonky plan,
red herring. i never said 123 point plan. he doesn't even have a ONE point plan, Paul. you know what? never mind. i don't want to talk about this guy any more until January. if he is still leading, which i seriously doubt, THEN we will have a discussion. i have said that i basically like the guy. i just don't like his campaign. AT ALL. laters. What will be different- why will Trump be an outlier? Maybe. But we got the same excitement about Reagan’s “slumps”: • The Wall Street Journal, Oct. 30, 1979: “Douglas L. Hallett, former aide to Pres Nixon, claims Ronald Reagan’s decline in opinion polls and his inability to attract support of opinion-leaders suggest there are strong doubts regarding his ability to confront tough foreign and economic problems.” • The Washington Post, Jan. 12, 1980: “Reagan to Keep a Low Profile Despite Slipping in Iowa Poll” • The New York Times, March 12, 1980: “Nearly 1/3 of Democrats and Republicans polled after they leave polling places [in Florida] rate Ford a better candidate than any of Republicans in race.” That Iowa poll wasn’t a minor slippage. The Des Moines Register poll showed Reagan’s support collapsing from 50 percent to 26 percent. Reagan went on to lose the Iowa caucuses. But even that wasn’t the beginning of the end. Most recently, we’ve been warned that Trump may be polling at 30 percent, but 30 percent is also his “ceiling.” Perhaps. But why isn’t 9 percent Rubio’s ceiling? It is simply assumed that anyone who’s not currently for Trump must be aggressively anti-Trump. The political lingo was different in 1980, but Reagan supporters were given the same warning about their candidate only being able to attract a minority of fanatical voters. • In December 1979, The Economist warned that Barry Goldwater’s 1964 defeat “underlined the old warning that candidates easily nominated are by no means those with the best chance of being elected.” • In Feb. 1980, Washington Post political reporter Haynes Johnson wondered whether Reagan’s “loyal legions will stay with him to the end, and if so whether they will be able to avert a final crash.” • As late as March 2, 1980, Gerald Ford said, “Every place I go and everything I hear, there is the growing, growing sentiment that Gov. Reagan cannot win the election,” and we “can’t afford to have a replay of 1964.” It was not until Reagan had won 206 delegates to George H.W. Bush’s 47 that establishment Republicans finally began to endorse him “to head off any perception,” as The Washington Post put it, that he couldn’t win the general election.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 20, 2015 21:37:34 GMT -5
red herring. i never said 123 point plan. he doesn't even have a ONE point plan, Paul. you know what? never mind. i don't want to talk about this guy any more until January. if he is still leading, which i seriously doubt, THEN we will have a discussion. i have said that i basically like the guy. i just don't like his campaign. AT ALL. laters. Of course he does. You're the other part of the problem. You're like those people that think the GOP doesn't have an alternative to ObamaCare. All you have to do is read: www.donaldjtrump.comno more discussion from me about Trump until January, Paul. and i already went to the website. i told you that in post 940. stop ignoring that. peace.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 20, 2015 23:11:25 GMT -5
there is a Bush thread, Paul.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 20, 2015 23:28:03 GMT -5
So Paul starts a thread blaming Jeb Bush for 9/11 and then posts a link on this thread two minutes later blaming Jeb Bush for 9/11.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 21, 2015 11:24:09 GMT -5
Biden has decided not to run for president.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 21, 2015 11:25:52 GMT -5
Biden has decided not to run for president. Good choice.
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Post by Opti on Oct 21, 2015 12:37:44 GMT -5
So Paul starts a thread blaming Jeb Bush for 9/11 and then posts a link on this thread two minutes later blaming Jeb Bush for 9/11. He's apparently joined the Trump campaign.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2015 14:09:26 GMT -5
Biden has decided not to run for president. that should be good news for Sanders. but i might turn out to be wrong about that.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 21, 2015 18:36:37 GMT -5
Biden has decided not to run for president. that should be good news for Sanders. but i might turn out to be wrong about that. Once upon a time, I would have said Bernie Sanders will NOT be the nominee, let alone President. That time would have been pre-Obama; or at least pre-Obama re-election.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 21, 2015 18:37:34 GMT -5
Of course he does. You're the other part of the problem. You're like those people that think the GOP doesn't have an alternative to ObamaCare. All you have to do is read: www.donaldjtrump.com no more discussion from me about Trump until January, Paul.and i already went to the website. i told you that in post 940. stop ignoring that. peace. Then I should not expect to see you on the Trump thread until then. So long.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 21, 2015 20:15:20 GMT -5
no more discussion from me about Trump until January, Paul.and i already went to the website. i told you that in post 940. stop ignoring that. peace. Then I should not expect to see you on the Trump thread until then. So long. don't you have some disaster capitalism to do, or something? don't worry. you can leave. i'll keep your threads warm.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 22, 2015 8:29:55 GMT -5
Then I should not expect to see you on the Trump thread until then. So long. don't you have some disaster capitalism to do, or something? don't worry. you can leave. i'll keep your threads warm. Um, maybe you're confused. This is the thread about Trump's presidential prospects, and you declared you weren't going to discuss anything having to do with the topic until January if Trump is still leading. Trump Dominates the Field in New Hampshire; Jeb! Loses Ground For Support of Amnestywww.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-gop-field-new-hampshire-donald-trump-leads-214990
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 22, 2015 8:35:16 GMT -5
don't you have some disaster capitalism to do, or something? don't worry. you can leave. i'll keep your threads warm. Um, maybe you're confused. see. there you go again. making the thread about ME.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 22, 2015 8:36:33 GMT -5
that should be good news for Sanders. but i might turn out to be wrong about that. I think just the opposite, actually. Bernie doesn't have a majority of the Dems, but he has a strong minority. A three way race was his ticket, and Biden being out will not help him there. But, New Hampshire comes early, and Bernie is polling exceptionally well there. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. thanks for making this about Sanders. you're probably right, dem. i don't think he has wide enough appeal to win the nomination.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 22, 2015 11:54:47 GMT -5
Paul, weren't you leaving or something? Didn't you make a goodbye thread, saying we won't be seeing much of you?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 22, 2015 13:38:12 GMT -5
Paul, weren't you leaving or something? Didn't you make a goodbye thread, saying we won't be seeing much of you? Well, our East Coast storm petered out, and I'm handling most of the Caribbean stuff from home. Only have one adjuster there- our client just didn't have a large exposure there.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 23, 2015 11:08:57 GMT -5
Head to Mexico! There is a big one brewing there.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 23, 2015 13:03:22 GMT -5
Damn that's scary looking. 200 mph winds. it is a really bad storm.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 23, 2015 16:39:32 GMT -5
This dog will hunt. This explains Trump's appeal very well:
The Trump Wollman Ice Rink, E 59th & 5th Ave Central Park. The rink was closed in 1980 for an announced 2 years of renovations and still not completed by the City of New York by the end of 1986. The city has spent 6 years and $12 million dollars I guess trying to work out how to make ice in the winter?
Donald Trump took over the project, and at $0 cost to the taxpayers, completed renovations in 3 months- 2 months ahead of schedule, and $750,000 under budget.
During the summer, the rink is converted to an equestrian ring for 5 days for the Rolex Central Park horse show which brings world class show jumping and riding to New York City.
There are a LOT of examples of under-the-radar stuff Trump has done-- stuff he doesn't talk about, hasn't mentioned in years, probably has forgotten about-- that really show what kind of leader he'll be.
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AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 23, 2015 16:43:59 GMT -5
Head to Mexico! There is a big one brewing there. Yeah, it's REALLY bad. Loss of life is almost assured- in spite of warnings. It is the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere. I'll go for the dough, and probably stay for the relief effort. I hoping to bring plenty of relief supplies with me-- We are researching what it takes to get a truck across the border- we've already determined we can't rent one from any of the major providers-- they don't want you taking it over the border. We might just buy one.
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