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Post by Value Buy on Sept 11, 2015 7:54:57 GMT -5
The more Trump insults women, the more Conservative women like him. Idiots. What is even more mind bending is in the most recent poll, Jeb has gained female support as Hillary is losing the demographic putting him in a tie with her for the Presidency vote. We are talking voters who tend to vote Democrat.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 11, 2015 9:53:59 GMT -5
The more Trump insults women, the more Conservative women like him. Idiots. What is even more mind bending is in the most recent poll, Jeb has gained female support as Hillary is losing the demographic putting him in a tie with her for the Presidency vote. We are talking voters who tend to vote Democrat. Bush has been ahead of Clinton in three of the last six polls dating back to JULY.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2015 12:47:13 GMT -5
That's a fair point- what I pay attention to are the trends. I'm seeing things in the polls I've never seen before-- wild swings. For example, today I saw that Bernie is basically tied with Hilldebeast 41% - 40% in New Hampshire. Margin of error stuff- no biggie. IF this were a normal poll. It's not. The trend line is Hill is DOWN 12% in a month, and Bernie is up 8%. You don't typically see movement that dramatic in a month, and especially this early. The numbers for Trump show a similar about face-- from nearly 60% disapproval to almost the opposite now. what i saw is that Bernie is losing to BIDEN, who is not even running. I picked up on that. I think the Democrat media has thrown Biden in the mix to mask the true Hillary deficit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 11, 2015 13:07:12 GMT -5
what i saw is that Bernie is losing to BIDEN, who is not even running. I picked up on that. I think the Democrat media has thrown Biden in the mix to mask the true Hillary deficit. if Biden were not in the race, Hillary might only be leading by 10%
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 13, 2015 1:25:23 GMT -5
I think the dustup with Ben Carson might actually hurt Trump. Carson is just a nice guy, and though he DID attack Donald Trump's faith- usually an off-limits thing to do- I think Trump railing on about him might actually have an impact? Hard to tell. The guy does seem to be teflon..
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 13, 2015 10:29:20 GMT -5
I think the dustup with Ben Carson might actually hurt Trump. Carson is just a nice guy, and though he DID attack Donald Trump's faith- usually an off-limits thing to do- I think Trump railing on about him might actually have an impact? Hard to tell. The guy does seem to be teflon.. he is only Teflon until that moment he goes too far.
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Post by joemilitary on Sept 13, 2015 13:30:56 GMT -5
Donald Trump will soon have a Howard Dean moment
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 13, 2015 17:49:40 GMT -5
I am surprised that Biden is never mentioned here...Personally I think he would be a good substitute for Dems who are just not happy with Hillery..His record in public service and looking out for the " common guy " is very good..yes a liberal but also a moderate...hey..he is a life long Democrat so you can't expect conservative blood in his veins..gets along well in crossing the Aisle..for those who will say he supported Obama and have a problem with Obama..come on people..eight years as his VP...what do you expect...
He differed with him many times..but then as all good VP publickly showed his support..
{He disagreed with him strongly with Obamas choice of how to conduct in Afganistan....made his voice heard..all he could do..}
I can see him as a viable candidate..just surprised he is never mentioned here...
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 13, 2015 19:42:19 GMT -5
I am surprised that Biden is never mentioned here...Personally I think he would be a good substitute for Dems who are just not happy with Hillery..His record in public service and looking out for the " common guy " is very good..yes a liberal but also a moderate...hey..he is a life long Democrat so you can't expect conservative blood in his veins..gets along well in crossing the Aisle..for those who will say he supported Obama and have a problem with Obama..come on people..eight years as his VP...what do you expect... He differed with him many times..but then as all good VP publickly showed his support.. {He disagreed with him strongly with Obamas choice of how to conduct in Afganistan....made his voice heard..all he could do..} I can see him as a viable candidate..just surprised he is never mentioned here... Biden first must announce his candidacy or at least express a strong interest. I don't think he has the emotional desire to run.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 13, 2015 19:44:52 GMT -5
I am surprised that Biden is never mentioned here... ...just surprised he is never mentioned here... he is mentioned in 3 of the 7 messages preceding yours
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 13, 2015 20:38:57 GMT -5
Donald Trump will soon have a Howard Dean moment yeah. he is going to take a red hot shit on his campaign any second.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 13, 2015 21:32:04 GMT -5
Donald Trump will soon have a Howard Dean moment He's had five of them so far. Doesn't seem to matter.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 13, 2015 21:34:38 GMT -5
I think the dustup with Ben Carson might actually hurt Trump. Carson is just a nice guy, and though he DID attack Donald Trump's faith- usually an off-limits thing to do- I think Trump railing on about him might actually have an impact? Hard to tell. The guy does seem to be teflon.. he is only Teflon until that moment he goes too far. Going to far is his thing. Trump has essentially committed serial rhetorical rape and he doesn't apologize, he doesn't bury it- he wears it like a badge of honor. If you can't tell, the man is starting to piss me off. I'm over the show- though, I admit it has been a fun ride. I do hope he gets the opportunity to tell CNN moderators to go f*** themselves-- because you know he's going to.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 13, 2015 21:51:31 GMT -5
he is only Teflon until that moment he goes too far. Going to (sic) far is his thing. . no. going far is his thing. going TOO far is nobody's thing.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 13, 2015 22:40:22 GMT -5
he is only Teflon until that moment he goes too far. Going to far is his thing. Trump has essentially committed serial rhetorical rape and he doesn't apologize, he doesn't bury it- he wears it like a badge of honor. If you can't tell, the man is starting to piss me off. I'm over the show- though, I admit it has been a fun ride. I do hope he gets the opportunity to tell CNN moderators to go f*** themselves-- because you know he's going to. Lol! He's been pissing most of us off for quite some time. What took you so long?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 14, 2015 14:12:12 GMT -5
Going to far is his thing. Trump has essentially committed serial rhetorical rape and he doesn't apologize, he doesn't bury it- he wears it like a badge of honor. If you can't tell, the man is starting to piss me off. I'm over the show- though, I admit it has been a fun ride. I do hope he gets the opportunity to tell CNN moderators to go f*** themselves-- because you know he's going to. Lol! He's been pissing most of us off for quite some time. What took you so long? I'll tell you why- I've been enjoying SOMEONE finally giving the establishment the middle finger. I'm frequently stuck with no other choice but to defend him. For example, many people aren't aware that each and every Trump "flare up" has been in RESPONSE to an attack. We hear Trump's RESPONSE reported widely as, "Today Donald Trump Attacked fill-in-the-blank" what you don't hear is that he was RESPONDING, not simply waking up one day and deciding to attack someone. Jindal: "looks like he [Trump] has a squirrel on his head" Fiorina: "I saw Barbara Boxer the other day and I thought what everyone thinks, 'God what is that hair'" - open mic on CNN when she was running as the moderate Republican candidate. Ben Carson: "I realize where my success has come from, and I don't in any way deny my faith in God, but I think this is a big difference [between Carson and Trump]" - comment questioning Donald Trump's faith which he has since apologied for. Jeb Bush: "I agree..." - with Jindal, "he's not a serious candidate" Lindsay Graham: "He's a jackass...he's bringing his name down and he's not helping the process" Perry: "He offers a barking carnival act that can best be described as Trumpism...a toxic mix of demagoguery and xenophobia that if pursued will lead the Republican Party to perdition" Charles Krauthammer: "This is a campaign that's run on know-nothing xenophia" George Will: "...bloviating ignoramus...Donald Trump is redundant evidence that if your net worth is high enough, your IQ can be very low and you can still intrude upon American politics" Did you detect anyone debating Mr. Trump on the issues? And Trump fires back, and he's the one dragging politics into the gutter? Who is dragging down the debate? I am not a Trump supporter. But I don't like 10 against one. I happen to like Ted Cruz. One of the reasons why is that I can't find an instance of Ted Cruz attacking Trump, or anyone else. He's spent his tenure standing up to the GOP establishment, and he has spent his campaign laying out his vision for a revitalized Republican Party, and renewed America. However, I find the irrationality and hypocrisy of the anti-Trump crowd hard to let go. It's the typical REAL school bully behavior of his attackers- walk up, punch the guy, and when he hits back cry for the teacher. If you dish it out, you need to be able to take it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 14, 2015 14:45:00 GMT -5
Cruz is too busy reading Green Eggs and Ham.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 14, 2015 21:10:46 GMT -5
Cruz is too busy reading Green Eggs and Ham. Then how come the left is not falling all over him?
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 14, 2015 21:16:23 GMT -5
Cruz is too busy reading Green Eggs and Ham. Then how come the left is not falling all over him? Because we read science publications, about things like the discovery of Homo Nadelis and the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. You can stick to Dr. Seuss and the bible. It's more your speed.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 14, 2015 21:22:59 GMT -5
For the record, I never ever understood Seuss. The Bible is more my speed. And I am fine with that.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 14, 2015 22:04:56 GMT -5
Then how come the left is not falling all over him? Because we read science publications, about things like the discovery of Homo Nadelis and the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. You can stick to Dr. Seuss and the bible. It's more your speed.
Yeah- don't forget fabricated man-made global warming nonsense. I'm reading a science publication right now. You should give it a thorough read. It is called, "A Disgrace to the Profession": The World's Scientists - In Their Own Words - On Michael E Mann by Mark Steyn, but really just quoting scientists. Steyn, if you are not aware, is being sued by Michael Mann for referring to the hockey stick as fraudulent, though he was simply echoing the opinion of literally hundreds of actual scientists. You'll like it. Discredited junk scientist Paul Ehrlich called it a "Triump of denial propaganda".
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 14, 2015 22:52:36 GMT -5
Pffft. I speak all the time with people who live in the Arctic. I'll take their word on what's happening any day of the week. Things are warming at an alarming rate, their lives are changing and they're scared.
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Post by marvholly on Sept 15, 2015 5:47:04 GMT -5
Pffft. I speak all the time with people who live in the Arctic. I'll take their word on what's happening any day of the week. Things are warming at an alarming rate, their lives are changing and they're scared.
AGREE!
I am a believer in global warming. i have seen the difference (and Donna Freedman, an AK resident, has blogged about how warm her summers are getting). .
i was in AK in 2003 & have glacier pix. A freind was there in 2014, has pix of the same glaciers. Glaciers are MUCH smaller in his pix.
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Post by shelby on Sept 15, 2015 8:25:56 GMT -5
Both my Dad and in-laws grew up in central Montana, one not that far from forget the city name but in the 1950's recorded the coldest temp. on record ever in the US. They used to regularly get temps up to 20-30 below, now they barely get 10 below.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 15, 2015 12:25:03 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, I'm convinced global warming is a reality about which we need to be concerned. Personally, I believe we humans and our "needs" are contributing to the problem. However, even if we aren't I can't see a problem in using our technology to try to mitigate the damage being done.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 16, 2015 7:53:05 GMT -5
I have a serious question mainly for conservatives? How are we going to beat Trump? In my mind, there's no scenario as of now that I have heard where Trump is taken out and Jeb Bush does not automatically become the nominee. Remember: Jeb Bush is the most dangerous Republican in the race, he may be the most dangerous person to the Republic besides Bernie Sanders. So, how about it? How, in your minds, realistically and practically, will Trump be beaten by a "real conservative" that will go on to prevail in the primary? So, serious question ahead of the debate tonight: I would like Ted Cruz 2016 to beat Trump. So, how does it happen? So far, all the theories I've heard are passive- Trump will implode- he'll say something so outrageous that it's a deal breaker for supporters, supporters will realize he's not a true blue conservative and suddenly abandon him, he's not really in it to win it- he's going to pull out, when the herd is culled and the one to four percenters start dropping out, their supporters will finally coalesce around a conservative like Senator Ted Cruz and I would like to believe that. The trouble is, it's just not happening. All indications are that the also-rans are losing support to Donald J. Trump. 64% of Trump supporters came from Rick Perry. 57% of Chris Christie's support has left for Trump. My own man, Ted Cruz has lost 39% of his supporters to Trump. Fiorina- 37% of supporters have gone to trump, and even Ben Carson who is by all accounts "surging", has seen a 32% share of his supporters go to Donald Trump. So, let's abandon Fantasy Land, let's stop "hoping" things will suddenly and inexplicably change. How will a Ted Cruz, or a Ben Carson beat Trump and prevail? Because here's the thing: if "Blow Trump out of this race" becomes the singular objective, you may as well support Jeb Bush. It's not enough to destroy the Trump juggernaut, if Trump is taken out, then the massive TEA Party support for Trump has to go to a single candidate-- if Trump is gone, and it is Cruz, Carson, Fiorina, and Rubio splitting the conservatives-- then Jeb wins. Jeb, not Trump, is the candidate we have to stop to save the country. Trump is not my pick, but I'm strategic. Trump may just be the emergency stop gap measure we have to accept in order to break the GOP establishment. So, tell me- how does Ted Cruz beat Trump, AND how do we make certain he beats the brakes of Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Bill Kristol, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and the rest of the GOP establishment? I guess my real question is: can Trump be taken out in such a way that we're left with a true blue conservative, and we don't end up ceding the election to Jeb Bush? This is the most critical thing we have to think about right now, and it's why I completely and totally reject the eye-rolling, irrational anti-Trumpism that's building right now. And while I appreciate the great intellectuals of the conservative movement now speaking out about Trump, where were they when we needed them on Bush 41, on Dole, on Bush 43, on McCain, on Romney? And can they be counted on to take out Bush once they've accomplished their singular objective of taking out Trump? No. They'll fade back into the woodwork. The single most dangerous candidate in the Republican field, the one that represents a clear and present danger to the Republic, is Jeb Bush. I am not saying do not challenge Donald Trump, and do not test his candidacy, but It would have been very nice indeed if all the thoughtful conservatives had trained their considerable firepower on the Bush family, on Dole, on McCain, on Romney and now, on Jeb and the GOP leadership just as they are now trained on Trump. Prior to Obama, Bush 43 was the most profligate spender in the entire history of the United States. A misinformed electorate can be overcome, but not with a Republican party that is ideologically, and morally adrift. Obama was tee'd up by Bush. And Trump has been tee'd up by Boehner and McConnell. Give the electorate more credit. They're not misinformed. They simply have nowhere else to turn.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 16, 2015 8:12:44 GMT -5
Pffft. I speak all the time with people who live in the Arctic. I'll take their word on what's happening any day of the week. Things are warming at an alarming rate, their lives are changing and they're scared. Hey- you know what? As long as you are honest about where you're coming from, I'm fine with that. If anecdote over data is your approach, and that's good enough for you- fine. Now, if you will refrain from promoting policy based on this, and refrain from lecturing others about how you read "science" publications, that'd be greaaaat. Thanks.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 16, 2015 8:17:26 GMT -5
Pffft. I speak all the time with people who live in the Arctic. I'll take their word on what's happening any day of the week. Things are warming at an alarming rate, their lives are changing and they're scared. Hey- you know what? As long as you are honest about where you're coming from, I'm fine with that. If anecdote over data is your approach, and that's good enough for you- fine. Now, if you will refrain from promoting policy based on this, and refrain from lecturing others about how you read "science" publications, that'd be greaaaat. Thanks. Great! Now will you stop lecturing others about how you read 'science' publications (and every other issue under the sun), that'd be greaaaat. Thanks.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 16, 2015 11:47:20 GMT -5
Pffft. I speak all the time with people who live in the Arctic. I'll take their word on what's happening any day of the week. Things are warming at an alarming rate, their lives are changing and they're scared. Hey- you know what? As long as you are honest about where you're coming from, I'm fine with that. If anecdote over data is your approach, and that's good enough for you- fine. Now, if you will refrain from promoting policy based on this, and refrain from lecturing others about how you read "science" publications, that'd be greaaaat. Thanks. Hey, YOU know what? The Russians are kicking your ass. Because, after all, climate change is "just anecdote".
ABOARD THE COAST GUARD CUTTER ALEX HALEY — In the vast Arctic, melting ice caused by global warming is bringing new opportunities, and new problems, to a region that could be the next front in a very cold war — a battle that some say America is losing to the Russians.
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Rising temperatures have brought more sea traffic to the northern quarters of the planet - along with warnings that nearly 150 years after the United States purchased Alaska from the Russians, it's fallen behind in the race to dominate the Arctic. Dozens of commercial ships now traverse the Northwest Passage connecting the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. Using the route, which skirts the top of Alaska and Canada, is estimated to be 30 percent cheaper than hauling goods via the Panama Canal.
Next summer, a U.S.-flagged cruise ship, the Crystal Serenity, plans to take more than 1,000 passengers through the passage, which not long ago was considered too treacherous because of nearly year-round ice pack.
The big melt has also made the natural treasures — oil, gas and fish that were frosted over for centuries - newly accessible to the eight countries with territory in the Arctic.
www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fight-for-the-arctic/where-u-s-race-arctic-n425831
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 16, 2015 12:46:09 GMT -5
I think you are getting your issues confused. As I have stated repeatedly on the topic: no one disputes that the climate has been steadily warming since the end of the last ice age. There have been a few exceptions, the maunder minimum sometimes referred to as the "Little Ice Age", and the recent nearly two decades long cooling trend. What is in dispute is what is causing it. Clearly it didn't begin with the industrial revolution. It is critically important, too, that you accept that the "evidence" for the famous "hockey stick" graph which shows a spike in warming coinciding with the beginning of the industrial age has been thoroughly discredited. It's a fraud. So, we're not going to "policy" our way out of this. Will the climate continue to warm? There's ample evidence which shows the earth has been considerably warmer in the past than it is today, so the answer is: maybe. However, the change is not man-made, it is not "rapid", and we are going to solve the problems associated with steady, gradual climate change over many hundreds of years-- with no doubt a few climate anomalies thrown in. There's nothing scientific about climate alarmism and cult-like adherence to an apocalyptic climate myth.
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