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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2016 11:07:21 GMT -5
such as "that makes no sense whatsoever"? It was better than that, I have known him for 28 years, this was the first time I ever heard him swear!! it is a pity when people get worked up over absurdity. laughter would have been a healthier response.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 11:15:51 GMT -5
not that you will listen to me, but the polling average is Clinton +5%. this poll is well within MOE for that average. it is TRUE that she was +11% on March 25th (which was SEVEN weeks ago, oc). it is also true, however, that she was up less than 1% on September 12th, less than 2% on January 18th, and less than 3% on February 27th. we will see how it goes for her. it might be a good time to mention that there is still 11% undecided right now. i would be more worried about that, if i were Clinton. other than one day in March, she has not been above 50% in this matchup since LAST AUGUST. That, and the fact that Trump voters seem to appear out of nowhere when least expected. Not like the long deceased, registered Democrats, from the Chicago area. That's expected.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 11:18:00 GMT -5
The bait dangles.... wait.... wait.... the fish swim's past. Better luck next time. i wasn't baiting. i was genuinely curious. so, why don't you want to share? It would change nothing.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2016 11:21:00 GMT -5
not that you will listen to me, but the polling average is Clinton +5%. this poll is well within MOE for that average. it is TRUE that she was +11% on March 25th (which was SEVEN weeks ago, oc). it is also true, however, that she was up less than 1% on September 12th, less than 2% on January 18th, and less than 3% on February 27th. we will see how it goes for her. it might be a good time to mention that there is still 11% undecided right now. i would be more worried about that, if i were Clinton. other than one day in March, she has not been above 50% in this matchup since LAST AUGUST. That, and the fact that Trump voters seem to appear out of nowhere when least expected. Not like the long deceased, registered Democrats, from the Chicago area. perhaps they are the same voters!
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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2016 11:25:57 GMT -5
i wasn't baiting. i was genuinely curious. so, why don't you want to share? It would change nothing. sure it would. it would change the perception of you on the board. very little about what we type here will change anything else. we can either get to know each other, or not- but that is about it. the latter seems rather a waste.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 11:58:54 GMT -5
sure it would. it would change the perception of you on the board. very little about what we type here will change anything else. we can either get to know each other, or not- but that is about it. the latter seems rather a waste. It's not a waste that there are limits to what we know of each other. They are always present, in all interaction (not just here) Your comfort level dictates to what you are willing to exchange. The levels seldom match. Now you know more of how I think. Does that help ?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 19, 2016 12:04:16 GMT -5
Trump wants his VP picks to submit their tax returns to him. Can you spell HYPOCRITE?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2016 12:05:26 GMT -5
sure it would. it would change the perception of you on the board. very little about what we type here will change anything else. we can either get to know each other, or not- but that is about it. the latter seems rather a waste. It's not a waste that there are limits to what we know of each other. They are always present, in all interaction (not just here) Your comfort level dictates to what you are willing to exchange. The levels seldom match. Now you know more of how I think. Does that help ? i never claimed that it is a waste that there are limits to what we know, only that we waste our opportunities to connect. and yes, that helps, but candidly, i PRESUME that of everyone who reveals little or nothing of themselves. and i also respect it, for the record. but as i get older, i consider the prospect of connecting with my fellow humans to be among the most interesting and inticing that is available in my experience. the alternative reasons for posting here, on the other hand, i find quite unappealing/boring. but, as you and others would have it: to each their own. thanks for your candor.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2016 12:45:48 GMT -5
Trump leads in the last TWO HTH polls.
now, it should be mentioned that one of them was FOX, which has been an outlier for the entire year (the only poll that has shown Trump leading Clinton in the last year has been FOX, and they have done so 3-4 times), but Rasmussen is new to the party, having shown Trump leading now TWICE in the last month.
i don't think the trend is good for Clinton, but i also think there is a lot of scatter in the polls (CNN showed her +13% this week). we will have to see where this all goes.
a better indication for BOTH candidates will be where they lie after June 7th, when the dust settles on the nomination. having ANY uncertainty on that front is making the polls a lot more speculative than they should be.
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Post by happyhoix on May 19, 2016 12:51:34 GMT -5
Trump wants his VP picks to submit their tax returns to him. Can you spell HYPOCRITE? Here's another good one - Trump, who claims wealthy people need to pay more in taxes, has been sued repeatedly for refusing to pay taxes.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/19/trumps-tax-troubles/84543538/
So- all the other rich people need to pay their taxes, and other companies shouldn't be allowed to have overseas accounts that let them dodge paying taxes, and his potential VP candidates must reveal their tax records to HIM, but Trump doesn't have to reveal his tax returns because they're private, and he shouldn't have to pay his share of taxes because he doesn't want to.
This article also reveals one of the reasons he wouldn't want to release his tax returns:
A settlement hinged on Trump agreeing not to develop the Mar-a-Lago land into individual lots, said Jay Jacknin, outside counsel for Palm Beach County’s appraisal’s office. Last year, the county assessed the property at about $20 million — though Trump’s federal financial disclosure form values it at “more than $50 million.”
Similarly, just up the road in Jupiter, Fla., Trump bought the Ritz-Carlton Golf Club and Spa in 2012 for a reported $5 million, then renovated it. For the past three years, his team has appealed the assessed value, of $13.7million as of 2015. In his financial disclosure forms, Trump claims that the course on 285 acres is worth “more than $50 million” and that it throws off more than $12 million in revenue.
He minimizes his property's value to try to keep the taxes low, but inflates the value when he's trying to impress someone - like when he filed the federal paperwork required when he began his campaign.
More smoke and mirrors.
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Post by dondub on May 19, 2016 13:34:24 GMT -5
It's becoming apparent that he has a tiny penis after all.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2016 14:35:03 GMT -5
You are not everyone. As the GOP found out, actually a LOT of people do. More people than have ever supported a GOP candidate in a primary in history, in fact. Republican turnout in the primary wa... ah, nevermind. We've been over this. we'll see. the only person less popular than Clinton is Trump. that is a FACT. can it change? sure. absolutely. for both of them. The problem is that the traditional calculations have not been the least bit reliable for Donald Trump's campaign. He consistently outperforms polling.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2016 14:38:14 GMT -5
not that you will listen to me, but the polling average is Clinton +5%. this poll is well within MOE for that average. it is TRUE that she was +11% on March 25th (which was SEVEN weeks ago, oc). it is also true, however, that she was up less than 1% on September 12th, less than 2% on January 18th, and less than 3% on February 27th. we will see how it goes for her. it might be a good time to mention that there is still 11% undecided right now. i would be more worried about that, if i were Clinton. other than one day in March, she has not been above 50% in this matchup since LAST AUGUST. That, and the fact that Trump voters seem to appear out of nowhere when least expected. Not like the long deceased, registered Democrats, from the Chicago area. That's expected. If I were Hillary Clinton, I'd be less worried about the 11% undecided and far more worried about the 10% of Trump primary voters that supported Obama in 2012...
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Post by happyhoix on May 20, 2016 7:36:53 GMT -5
So I listened to a very small amount of Trump on Morning Joe this morning (I can only tolerate about five minutes at a time).
He was going off about international policy (has anyone noticed that Trump reacts to everything, from terrorists downing an airplane to someone saying something mean about him in the media, with the same level of screaming intensity? He has two states of being - indifferent or enraged) and he was ranting about how bad China has been, by devaluating their currency, and how he's going to punish them by creating a 35% import tax on Chinese goods.
Is this the wise course of action, being belligerent with and cracking down on the country that holds somewhere around 6 - 7 % of our national debt?
Oh, and Trump ripped into former defense secretary Gates because - well, he was being mean to Trump, and if you aren't one of Trump's awesome, totally marvelous friends, you're his worst enemy and crazy, loony, or stupid.
And, oh yes - fat shaming Chris Christie. Because under that big suit he wears, Trump is ripped like Chris Hemsworth, apparently.
So much mud shoveling in just 24 hours. Truly, this is a worthy Presidential candidate.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 20, 2016 9:40:41 GMT -5
Trumps going off is right out og the Democratic play book,
Did Rahm Emanuel say something like "don't ever let a good crisis go to waste?"
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 12:32:44 GMT -5
Trumps going off is right out of the Democratic play book, Did Rahm Emanuel say something like "don't ever let a good crisis go to waste?" That's why the Democrats and liberals are in such a tizzy over him. How do you fight a Republican that's using your playbook !
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 13:06:52 GMT -5
It's not a waste that there are limits to what we know of each other. They are always present, in all interaction (not just here) Your comfort level dictates to what you are willing to exchange. The levels seldom match. Now you know more of how I think. Does that help ? i never claimed that it is a waste that there are limits to what we know, only that we waste our opportunities to connect. and yes, that helps, but candidly, i PRESUME that of everyone who reveals little or nothing of themselves. and i also respect it, for the record. but as i get older, i consider the prospect of connecting with my fellow humans to be among the most interesting and inticing that is available in my experience. the alternative reasons for posting here, on the other hand, i find quite unappealing/boring. but, as you and others would have it: to each their own. thanks for your candor. I once listed my approximate assets like you did recently (this thread?) It was in a pinned thread in the "Your Money" section a couple of years ago. It was like a tell your financial success kind of thing. It was something I kind of regretted doing later. I can personally see the value of the of the Democrats using the "tax the wealthy" approach to get the vote. Class warfare is alive and well. I also derive no pleasure from some one saying "how are You doing", as was recently said to you. You now know yet a little bit more on what I think.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 20, 2016 17:39:35 GMT -5
i never claimed that it is a waste that there are limits to what we know, only that we waste our opportunities to connect. and yes, that helps, but candidly, i PRESUME that of everyone who reveals little or nothing of themselves. and i also respect it, for the record. but as i get older, i consider the prospect of connecting with my fellow humans to be among the most interesting and inticing that is available in my experience. the alternative reasons for posting here, on the other hand, i find quite unappealing/boring. but, as you and others would have it: to each their own. thanks for your candor. I once listed my approximate assets like you did recently (this thread?) It was in a pinned thread in the "Your Money" section a couple of years ago. It was like a tell your financial success kind of thing. It was something I kind of regretted doing later. I can personally see the value of the of the Democrats using the "tax the wealthy" approach to get the vote. Class warfare is alive and well. I also derive no pleasure from some one saying " how are You doing", as was recently said to you. You now know yet a little bit more on what I think. i didn't actually understand that question (bold). can you explain it to me?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 21, 2016 10:39:45 GMT -5
So, if you check the tax assessor's idea of what your property is worth and it's lower than what you would list your house for- you would immediately correct the tax assessor's office and or advise an appraiser that you think it is actually worth less?
Nothing to see here.
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Post by happyhoix on May 23, 2016 7:04:53 GMT -5
So, if you check the tax assessor's idea of what your property is worth and it's lower than what you would list your house for- you would immediately correct the tax assessor's office and or advise an appraiser that you think it is actually worth less? Nothing to see here. I've never been a self declared millionaire, yet submitted income tax returns claiming I lost money and therefore owed no taxes, then just a few years later claimed I was worth 200 million dollars, which is what Trump did back in the 80's.
One of Trumps' big themes during the primaries was how he was going to make the rich pay more in taxes, but he's a text book case of how the wealthy can manipulate their assets to avoid paying taxes when, in fact, they are extremely wealthy. In fact, the IRS stated they are currently doing an audit of Trumps tax returns because his returns are always questionable, not for any political reasons. Do you think someone who has worked the system so effectively over the years in order to get out of paying as much taxes as possible is suddenly going to rewrite the tax code in order to eliminate all those loopholes that wealthy people can use to minimize their tax dollars?
Just another talking point to dupe the gullible middle class voters which Trump will the moment he walks into the White House.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 23, 2016 10:07:50 GMT -5
we'll see. the only person less popular than Clinton is Trump. that is a FACT. can it change? sure. absolutely. for both of them. The problem is that the traditional calculations have not been the least bit reliable for Donald Trump's campaign. He consistently outperforms polling. false. he consistently outperforms PREDICTIONS, but not polls. he has generally underperformed his polls in terms of margin of victory (the only thing that generally matters).
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 23, 2016 12:52:48 GMT -5
The problem is that the traditional calculations have not been the least bit reliable for Donald Trump's campaign. He consistently outperforms polling. false. he consistently outperforms PREDICTIONS, but not polls. he has generally underperformed his polls in terms of margin of victory (the only thing that generally matters). Trump now leads in the RCP average. thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280848-trump-overtakes-clinton-in-rcp-averageWhatever you think of Trump, he is not in this race to lose it. He doesn't have to thread the needle of appealing to voters while appeasing donors. He has to keep the GOP establishment marginally not pissed off- but he doesn't have to kiss their ass. As such, Donald Trump will now proceed to club Hillary Clinton like a baby seal. It doesn't get better for her from here.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 23, 2016 12:53:40 GMT -5
false. he consistently outperforms PREDICTIONS, but not polls. he has generally underperformed his polls in terms of margin of victory (the only thing that generally matters). Trump now leads in the RCP average. you missed the entire thread i posted on this this morning, i gather?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 12:54:51 GMT -5
I once listed my approximate assets like you did recently (this thread?) It was in a pinned thread in the "Your Money" section a couple of years ago. It was like a tell your financial success kind of thing. It was something I kind of regretted doing later. I can personally see the value of the of the Democrats using the "tax the wealthy" approach to get the vote. Class warfare is alive and well. I also derive no pleasure from some one saying " how are You doing", as was recently said to you. You now know yet a little bit more on what I think. i didn't actually understand that question (bold). can you explain it to me? In the context of how I've seen it used before, it's kind of like "hey you're doing great" or "I wish I was doing as good as you", in a admiring way. Haven't seen it used too recently, so I'm kind of guessing that's what she meant.
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Post by Value Buy on May 25, 2016 13:10:16 GMT -5
Trump has serious personality flaws. He's a narcissist and pathological liar. Can't be trust to run our country. Hillary Clinton has serious personality flaws. She's a narcissist and pathological liar. Can't be trusted to run our country.
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Post by Value Buy on May 25, 2016 13:13:01 GMT -5
Donald trump will really improve America's standing in the world.
Strange you would choose Paris France to defend the argument against Trump, knowing your dislike of Muslim men. And how is it working out for Parisians in the last six months?
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Post by weltschmerz on May 25, 2016 13:30:38 GMT -5
Donald trump will really improve America's standing in the world.
Strange you would choose Paris France to defend the argument against Trump, knowing your dislike of Muslim men. And how is it working out for Parisians in the last six months? What do Muslim men have to do with it? The mayor of Paris said Trump is stupid man, and I agree with her. The UK hates him. Canada hates him. Even North Korea hates him and their leader refused to meet with him. Only Putin the KGB guy likes him, and that's not saying much. The rest of the world thinks he's a complete joke.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 13:32:55 GMT -5
Donald trump will really improve America's standing in the world.
Strange you would choose Paris France to defend the argument against Trump, knowing your dislike of Muslim men. And how is it working out for Parisians in the last six months? If one likes being killed by Muslim men, or being the mayor of the city where it happens, her opinion of Trump might important.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 25, 2016 13:35:21 GMT -5
Strange you would choose Paris France to defend the argument against Trump, knowing your dislike of Muslim men. And how is it working out for Parisians in the last six months? If one likes being killed by Muslim men, or being the mayor of the city where it happens, her opinion of Trump might important. That didn't make any sense. Sure, because she's the mayor of Paris, she likes being killed by Muslim men. OK.
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