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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 27, 2015 9:54:24 GMT -5
Let the "I told you so" roll in.... My wife and I are talking about downsizing to a 1 car family soon (her car) and she texted me: "We may have to reevaluate once the baby arrives - had a hard time putting all the kids stuff in the trunk " The kids are we 3 little cousins that spent last week with us. I read this as 'having a hard time stuffing all the kids in the trunk'!!
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 27, 2015 10:06:21 GMT -5
My front seat belts are adjustable. I think that is standard now? Mine have been for years but only between one or two inches so fit men of different heights but still too high for women. I am over 5'1" and the tallest of several generations of women and they still are not adjustable to fit me or any women in my family most aren't 5 feet tall. My guess is they were designed and tested for people over 5'5" like most things they have too many tall people designing for everyone. Have you seen the height of the peep holes in doors? They should have designed them for women and children but they are about at the top of my head so have to stand on tip toes to try to see out or jump. My seatbelts adjust, but at the lowest setting, the belt goes directly across my throat. I have to tuck it under my boobs so it doesn't choke me.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jul 27, 2015 10:07:21 GMT -5
Oh. I'm sorry. Then it might be a bit early to buy a car based on the carry on of 3 kids. Just sayin. No no no... We already bought the car in 2013 When we were buying it all of YM told me how it was a mistake, that the trunk space was not big enough, that 1 kid and my wife will look into a bigger car. We are considering becoming a 1 car family (vs me getting another car) since my wife works in the city and will telecommute 3 days a week. And she texted that we might need to reconsider having just her car when we have kids due to the trunk size, maybe trade it in as get a Subaru or Volvo for extra space and still remain a 1 car family. I just laughed out loud because I remembered all the posts from YM when we were buying her car! YM is never wrong.
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 27, 2015 10:07:30 GMT -5
I think if you only have 1 child it won't matter about the trunk space. Even a small car can easily fit 1 baby/toddler in the trunk. Really until you have 2 pre-teens or 1 teenager the trunk space should be plenty to fit them.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 27, 2015 10:07:53 GMT -5
That wouldn't work for me! They'd slide right on by!!
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jul 27, 2015 10:14:11 GMT -5
Ok this is a true story. I swear. My exhusband and I went through 5 years of infertility. In that time he bought a Mini Cooper. At the end of that time we bought me a Kia rondo so that we could have something "bigger" for when the babies came. 3 rounds of IVF later, we are divorced and I still don't have a kid. Sooo. Take that story as you will. I do still have the kia though. I don't think he has that mini with his new kid, but I don't know. Sorry you were unsuccessful. Infertility sucks.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jul 27, 2015 10:17:05 GMT -5
Cars are built better. I'd like to see statistics whether all this makes a difference or not. I get seat belts and I even agree with in back seat to a certain age but freaking booster seats? I get it if you want to put your child in so they can see better out the window but pass a law requiring it? Good grief. It's physics. It's rather silly to argue about it, honestly. It makes sense. Watch a crash test video of a kid in a regular seat belt vs in a booster seat. It makes ME want a booster seat and I'm 5'5!
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jul 27, 2015 10:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 27, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
I think kids take up the most space as infants because of the rear facing carseat, strollers and diaper bags. It gets better as they age. Depends on one's vacations. I can't tell you how happy I was to ditch the PnP for going up to my parents' trailer. That and the cooler(s) = painful packing. *-*- DH is currently driving a Kia Forte (sedan basically) and I'm in the minivan. We like being able to switch between them as needed for kid traveling. Because the camping trip this weekend is going to require a bunch of gear, including 2 cots. We think we'll get more life out of the cots than we do the air mattresses. Because we lean yuppie on our camping.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 27, 2015 11:02:32 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin law is 8 OR 80 lbs but not both. But I admit, I haven't done my research on it. DD needs her 7 year will child/annual yet and I'll be asking about it then. One of my neices was in a booster until she was 11-13ish. She's short and skinny. She didn't mind it though.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 27, 2015 12:00:39 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin law is 8 OR 80 lbs but not both. But I admit, I haven't done my research on it. DD needs her 7 year will child/annual yet and I'll be asking about it then. One of my neices was in a booster until she was 11-13ish. She's short and skinny. She didn't mind it though. wisconsindot.gov/Pages/safety/education/child-safety/laws.aspxHeight comes in to play as well...
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 27, 2015 15:52:42 GMT -5
Thanks Gira. We're closing in on height too. The link says 4 feet, 9 inches (or 57 inches) and Caleb is something like 51 inches tall already. Seriously, the kid now meets every rollorcoaster/waterslide height restriction we've run into this year with inches to spare. And Keira's only an inch or so behind him.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 27, 2015 17:43:25 GMT -5
Basically, yeah! The first rule of parenthood, even life, is you can't win for losing. Figured as much: Childless - you are a selfish bastard, missing out on the greatest joy of life. 1 kid - spoiled brat, too much attention, self centered 2 kids - sibling rivalry and they will end up hating each other. You will drive yourself crazy trying to be fair. 3 kids - you are outnumbered and have to worry about the middle child syndrome and the "baby" of the family syndrome 4 kids and more - you are just crazy and screwed anyway you put it! Hey Carl - you forgot one! Biologically Childless But Raising Someone Else's (DB) Kids: a selfish bastard who is not a "real" parent!
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 10:56:10 GMT -5
Or: We can trade in my car and her car and get this car
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 10:57:27 GMT -5
Figured as much: Childless - you are a selfish bastard, missing out on the greatest joy of life. 1 kid - spoiled brat, too much attention, self centered 2 kids - sibling rivalry and they will end up hating each other. You will drive yourself crazy trying to be fair. 3 kids - you are outnumbered and have to worry about the middle child syndrome and the "baby" of the family syndrome 4 kids and more - you are just crazy and screwed anyway you put it! Hey Carl - you forgot one! Biologically Childless But Raising Someone Else's (DB) Kids: a selfish bastard who is not a "real" parent! Totally forgot, sorry And remember: you will never be their real parent and they will never love you as such (what we were told when we told someone we will eventually look into adoption).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 10:59:35 GMT -5
Or: We can trade in my car and her car and get this car Or, you can just keep the cars you have and not worry about getting something with more room until you actually NEED it. I wouldn't even fix yours. Just drive it until it dies.
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Post by yogiii on Jul 28, 2015 11:35:41 GMT -5
You can't trade in the Mini after all the work put into getting that thing. What if you get the Forrester and then decide you really need two cars. Will you order another Mini?!?!?!
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 11:39:02 GMT -5
You can't trade in the Mini after all the work put into getting that thing. What if you get the Forrester and then decide you really need two cars. Will you order another Mini?!?!?! Hahaha
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Post by yogiii on Jul 28, 2015 11:40:06 GMT -5
You can't trade in the Mini after all the work put into getting that thing. What if you get the Forrester and then decide you really need two cars. Will you order another Mini?!?!?! Hahaha I will interpret that as an enthusiastic yes.
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Post by chen35 on Jul 28, 2015 11:41:01 GMT -5
Cars are built better. I'd like to see statistics whether all this makes a difference or not. I get seat belts and I even agree with in back seat to a certain age but freaking booster seats? I get it if you want to put your child in so they can see better out the window but pass a law requiring it? Good grief. It's physics. It's rather silly to argue about it, honestly. It makes sense. Watch a crash test video of a kid in a regular seat belt vs in a booster seat. It makes ME want a booster seat and I'm 5'5! I probably technically should be in a booster seat. Even with the seat belt adjusted it hits me close to my neck. I'm 5'3".
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 28, 2015 11:44:59 GMT -5
Keep the mini and you can afford cross fit. I would keep the car for now. 1 kid versus 3 is a world of difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 15:50:55 GMT -5
Lobbyists interfering with my right to manage my kids and their safety. Would be interesting to see sales of boosters pre-law & post-law per state. Its all about the buck. PS - Said by a grand parent that still has the 6 year old in a 5 point harness seat. She's petite, she needs the extra protection. Seat belt & booster is not sufficient for her small frame. She'd ricochet around like a rag doll if there was ever an accident if she was in a booster. I do need to figure out what the current law is on front passenger seat for kids. A cop gave my daughter grief for having one of the kids in a booster in the front seat due to airbag concern. Ummm, the car has automatic shutoff of airbag if you are underweight. It was not a big car, so kids were 2 in the back and one in front passenger (oldest). I don't think he was right to hassle her. However, she didn't seem to know about the airbag shutoff, even though it is lit up on the front panel of the car to tell you the airbag is off . . . sigh. You should be able to look up the law. In my state, once you are forward facing it is recommended they seat in the back, but isn't required by law. The biggest concern about the front seat is the airbag, so absolutely make sure that is off. That will kill a kid. The other concern is hitting the dash with their head, so I would put the seat as far back as it goes. If you've got those two things covered, then a front seat is basically almost as safe as a back for a kid. I sit DS2 in the front and never been hassled by cops. I am pretty sure I get dirty looks from other parents who don't know the law nor understand the reasoning for the law. Thanks Angel. The car has the automatic shutoff of airbag & it was lit up (it was my old car she was driving, she just didn't realize the light was right there showing that the airbag was off). I didn't think it was right; like are they going to legislate that you can't have 3 kids if you can't afford a bigger vehicle? I do need to check law here because fitting 3 across the back in my current vehicle is not comfortable for them and leads to lots of fighting, so I often also have one in front and two in back, although i can technically fit all 3 in back. Problem got resolved when I found her a Unicorn minivan . . . which she is now giving back to me. The kids like that car better since it has the movie system . . . I used it the other day & man, never had a quieter ride with them than that
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 16:03:10 GMT -5
Hahaha I will interpret that as an enthusiastic yes. Lol ... No! But this could/would solve our trunk space issue - a cargo box. Cheaper than getting another car
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 17:02:27 GMT -5
My wife just sent it to me... $575.... Cheaper than a new car
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 17:31:19 GMT -5
What are you keeping in there? The stroller?
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 17:52:16 GMT -5
What are you keeping in there? The stroller? Cadavers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 18:12:49 GMT -5
Or: We can trade in my car and her car and get this car $32k and it's still a 4-cylinder?! In a SUV style vehicle...... 4-cylinders? I obviously haven't bought a car in a looooong time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 18:14:09 GMT -5
And that roof box is not cute.
I hope you're just messing with us now.
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 28, 2015 18:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 18:28:18 GMT -5
My wife just sent it to me... $575.... Cheaper than a new car We had something similar on a little Tercel and it was great for the cross country road/camping trips, but not that easy to access for day to day getting the kid stuff in and out. I'd nix the roof rack idea. You'd be better off with a trailer!
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