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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 9, 2015 3:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 12, 2015 17:56:39 GMT -5
debka.com/article/24734/Back-in-Tehran%E2%80%A6-Khamenei-adds-red-lines-Rouhani-tries-to-resign-Jaafari-hints-at-%E2%80%9Cfait-accompli%E2%80%9D-soonAccording to this debka article , Rouhani tried to resign...was chastized by supreme leader , even threatened as I read it with consequences, referring to former folks in his position, one in a six year house arrest and another having fled Iran.. Seems hard liners feel Obama will cave because he wants the deal so much for his legacy.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a broad hint to President Rouhani to pipe down, Khamenei reminisced about his long-gone predecessor Hassan Bani-Sadr (president in 1980-1981) who was not only forced out of office but had to flee Iran, and the former prime minister and presidential candidate Mir Hossein Moussavi, who has lived under house arrest for six years since leading an opposition campaign.
The supreme leader then set out his thesis that the danger of Iran coming under attack had declined to zero, since Europe was in deep economic crisis (mainly because of Greece) and because the US president had never been less inclined to go to war than he is today.
Jaaafri added his two cents by commenting that after a succession of fiascos, Obama would go to any lengths to reach a nuclear deal with Iran as the crowning achievement of his presidency. The Revolutionary Guards chief then added obliquely: “Before long we will present the West with a fait accompli.”
He refused to elaborate on this when questioned by the president, but it was taken as a reference to some nuclear event.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 12, 2015 18:27:32 GMT -5
i think they are miscalculating if they think Obama will cave.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 12, 2015 18:32:21 GMT -5
... a sex year house arrest ... Q: What do you do with 365 used condoms? A: Melt them into a tire and call it a good year |
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Post by marvholly on Jul 13, 2015 5:44:05 GMT -5
IMHO I think Iran 'thought' we would bend a LOT. We should have just walked out when the first complete by date expired and WAAAAY upped the sanctions.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 14, 2015 4:15:00 GMT -5
Your correct on the " nail biter.." aspect of the talks..seems it is now just about done according to this, latest article..just a few points..to you and I, trivial..just do the deal already butt o the talking heads and negotiators ..have to hold out and quibble..other wise they would be accused of not earning their keep.. Personally I am in favor of a deal being made..I believe if not , Iran in short order..say a year , two at the most and maybe sooner would have a bomb or two..There would always be the threat of a conflict..whether with Israel attacking the sites or even our selves..different President..different agenda..who knows and personally just on the finances alone forget casualties..ours, theirs...major country here ..80 million I believe at last count and they supposedly are friendly to us, the people..not the leadership.... don't think anyone can afford more war..just too expensive...just might lose one or even two of those new toys..F-22 or F-35...at $125 million plus EACH that would not go over to well plus the whole thing of War seems dated don't you think in this day and age..a strike against is one thing but a full fledged war..just so dated.. www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/iran-world-powers-wrap-talks-nuclear-deal-150714062059907.html |
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 14, 2015 9:18:10 GMT -5
Well I guess they have struck a deal. I agree with you- I'm glad they were able to do it.
I am still nervous about the long term prospects in a world where more and more countries have nukes, and Iran will certainly join the "club" at some point. This is a good stopgap for the short term in the Middle East though. We are in agreement on both parts....I am posting the article for those interested on the agreement..One of my concerns is that they, Iranians , will now have all these billions to spend..If they take care of their people at home who badly need it...their unemployment especially of the young educated class is very very high for example...if new $ are used to jump start industries as one good fall out to the agreement , Iran could emerge as a economic power house in the area...able to financially influence the area..However, from past experiences I am guessing they will continue their meddling in the area...and continue to support those groups who are considered verbotem by our people as terrorists...forgetting their struggles with ISIS... www.courant.com/nation-world/ct-iran-nuclear-deal-reached-20150714-story.html#page=1 |
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Post by wyouser on Jul 14, 2015 11:00:08 GMT -5
Proliferation? The Sunni Shiite issue? What does the deal do to that?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 15, 2015 0:18:24 GMT -5
Proliferation? The Sunni Shiite issue? What does the deal do to that? Methinks that these two sides will be at each others throats as they have been for eight hundred years now...this agreement itself , doubt it will influence one way or the other... |
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