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Post by mmhmm on May 8, 2015 19:49:07 GMT -5
Oh, muttley, I'm so sorry. It's difficult to watch those we love deteriorate and become ill. The Hep A can be treated and cysts on the kidneys aren't uncommon in older folks (I don't know how old your MIL is). Good idea to wait for the results of tests before trying to make any plans. I hope all turns out well.
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on May 9, 2015 9:13:31 GMT -5
Sorry to hear this, I hope she can get treatment and start feeling better
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Post by TheHaitian on May 9, 2015 11:42:14 GMT -5
Sorry, hope with your SIL there she is doing better!
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Post by Artemis Windsong on May 9, 2015 15:00:29 GMT -5
DH and I just went through his Mom's funeral. She gave up, also, but was 93 y.o.
It is her choice on whether or not to accept treatment.
The exposed family members need to be checked for Hepititis.
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 9, 2015 16:10:43 GMT -5
Yesterday her liver numbers have improved, but her kidney numbers have decreased. Biopsy was yesterday. Her sister came to visit this weekend. Our plan is that DH is going to go next Saturday. I'll take the kids to my parents and probably spend most of the weekend with them. Then the kids will spend the whole week with my parents and I'll meet them at my niece's birthday party the next Saturday and we'll spend most of Sunday at my parents and DH will come home on that day and we'll spend Memorial Day with the 4 of us. So, we'll get more answers next week. SIL and BIL found a fantastic rehab facility. They have an opening and since the hospital tried to discharge her on Thursday, she should be transferred soon. So I'm going to have 5 days just me and the dog! It has been 10 years since I've had that much alone time.
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 9, 2015 16:12:00 GMT -5
As for the Hep A, we don't know how long she has had it. Her symptoms go back to last fall, but it is doubtful she has had it that long. Probably BIL is the only who has been exposed.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 16:53:26 GMT -5
Google Hep A outbreaks for your state. Last year I remember there was one for a frozen organic fruit mix from Costco, but I think that was limited to west coast sources.
Hep A is reportable, and will need to be investigated back to the source. If mom eats out a lot it could have originated with a food handler. Is it possible the son that passed away had it?
I hope the hospital or rehab center will give her some counseling. Between grief, depression, and feeling horrible, I'm sure she has been really down.
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 12, 2015 22:02:38 GMT -5
Results of the biopsy are that it is cancer and it is terminal. I don't know anything more than that.
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Post by irishpad on May 12, 2015 22:07:11 GMT -5
So sorry to hear this. I hope you, your husband and the family get to spend some quality time with her as she journeys to the end. In my prayers.
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Post by mmhmm on May 12, 2015 22:11:50 GMT -5
I'm so sorry, muttleynfelix. My thoughts are with you, and your family.
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Post by giramomma on May 12, 2015 22:13:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry. You are in my thoughts.
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Post by Jaguar on May 12, 2015 22:15:17 GMT -5
I'm so very sorry, for you and yours. Thinking & hoping the best in this awful time. <<<< BIG HUGS >>>>
Cancer sucks, in no uncertain terms, it just freaking sucks.
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Post by tcu2003 on May 12, 2015 22:21:46 GMT -5
Hugs, muttley. Cancer sucks.
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Post by Apple on May 12, 2015 23:04:09 GMT -5
So sorry
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 23:07:25 GMT -5
Very sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with your family.
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Post by taz157 on May 12, 2015 23:10:53 GMT -5
I'm so sorry, muttleynfelix. My thoughts are with you, and your family.
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Post by t-dog on May 12, 2015 23:56:06 GMT -5
Aww Mutt I'm so sorry.
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Post by Bonny on May 13, 2015 1:10:43 GMT -5
So sorry to hear this. I hope you, your husband and the family get to spend some quality time with her as she journeys to the end. In my prayers. Can't say it better than this.
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 13, 2015 10:14:42 GMT -5
Maybe you all can help us make sense of this. MIL is going to a "health and rehab" facility. Before the cancer diagnosis, medicare and Tricare would pay for 100 days. Now they are saying they will only pay for 21 days. Why is that?
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Post by steph08 on May 13, 2015 10:26:25 GMT -5
I am so sorry, mutt.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 13, 2015 10:36:56 GMT -5
Maybe you all can help us make sense of this. MIL is going to a "health and rehab" facility. Before the cancer diagnosis, medicare and Tricare would pay for 100 days. Now they are saying they will only pay for 21 days. Why is that? www.medicare.gov/Pubs/pdf/10153.pdf Page 7 of this booklet gives the breakdown on days and payments. It may have to do with the level of care, now that she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Crap...I know this is not what any of you expected. I realize you knew it wasn't good and it won't get physically better from here. But your time with her can be quality time. Get Hospice involved NOW, even though you are not at the end yet. Trust me on this...it's a great organization that does not enter into the picture because a person is dying. They come in because the person still has living to do, and Hospice wants to help the entire family make the time as painless and easy as possible.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 13, 2015 10:49:25 GMT -5
Part A is not my area at all. It looks like days 1-20 are covered at no cost. A daily copay kicks in for days 21-100. I'm not having much luck on google finding exceptions.
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Post by shanendoah on May 13, 2015 10:51:29 GMT -5
Here's how it generally works- if someone is in a rehab facility to rehab - ie they are getting physical/occupational therapy and everyone believes they will get better and leave the rehab facility, Medicare will cover 100 days per calendar year.
If they go to a rehab facility not to get better but for what's called "custodial" care - meaning she can't take care of herself, and she's not going to get better, Medicare will only cover 21 days.
I strongly suggest the family look into hospice care. And look to see if Tricare will cover hospice - insurance companies often will.
And finally, *hugs*, to you, your DH, the kids.
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Post by milee on May 13, 2015 11:03:03 GMT -5
I'm so sorry about your MIL.
Not something to obsess over, but just something to remember - consider mentioning this to your new pediatrician. Assuming you and DH are current on your vaccinations, you're probably not at risk (but check since Hep A wasn't required when some of us were growing up.) But you also have little guys and even if they're current on their vaccination schedules, it sometimes takes time before vaccinations are effective in growing kids and they may not be immune to Hep A.
Some facts from the CDC website: www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/A/aFAQ.htm
How long does Hepatitis A virus survive outside the body?
The Hepatitis A virus is extremely hearty. It is able to survive the body’s highly acidic digestive tract and can live outside the body for months. High temperatures, such as boiling or cooking food or liquids for at least 1 minute at 185°F (85°C), kill the virus, although freezing temperatures do not.
Does Hepatitis A cause symptoms?
Not always. Some people get Hepatitis A and have no symptoms of the disease. Adults are more likely to have symptoms than children.
(Sorry, not meaning to be Debbie Downer, just don't want this to get overlooked when people are understandably overwhelmed and focusing on MIL.)
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Post by taz157 on May 13, 2015 11:32:22 GMT -5
In Florida, the Hepatitis A vaccine isn't required. I looked into last year for my DD and decided against it as its not very prevelant.
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Post by midjd on May 13, 2015 14:42:31 GMT -5
Mutt, I'm so sorry. How is your DH taking it?
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 13, 2015 15:47:41 GMT -5
Upset. He's closed himself off a lot. He's not forthcoming with details to me. I get more information from what he emails our old pastor and his sister's facebook page.
I have a bad feeling that this is going to be a lot like when his brother died and I'm going to excluded from well...a lot. They didn't do a memorial service or funeral for him. They all had their time together to talk about him and grieve and the kids and I were seperated from that. That can't happen this time. I know my opinion is at the bottom of the list, but I need to feel like I am more than a babysitter in the process. I really don't feel like I can say anything. I was worried about emailing my family this morning that he wouldn't want me to do that. But he doesn't tell me what he wants or doesn't want. Like I don't feel like I can even mention hospice to him or Hep A testing or anything like that.
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Post by milee on May 13, 2015 16:19:05 GMT -5
Upset. He's closed himself off a lot. He's not forthcoming with details to me. I get more information from what he emails our old pastor and his sister's facebook page. I have a bad feeling that this is going to be a lot like when his brother died and I'm going to excluded from well...a lot. They didn't do a memorial service or funeral for him. They all had their time together to talk about him and grieve and the kids and I were seperated from that. That can't happen this time. I know my opinion is at the bottom of the list, but I need to feel like I am more than a babysitter in the process. I really don't feel like I can say anything. I was worried about emailing my family this morning that he wouldn't want me to do that. But he doesn't tell me what he wants or doesn't want. Like I don't feel like I can even mention hospice to him or Hep A testing or anything like that. I'm so sorry he reacts like that. It's hard. My husband does something similar when upset or sad - just shuts down and won't talk at all.
Some of the discussion is tough to bite your tongue on, especially since you probably have really good insights and possible help. Even if you decide to bite your tongue, please don't delay on dealing with the health issues.
You can go ahead and research if vaccination after exposure is effective. You can go ahead and take yourself and the kids to be tested and vaccinated (since you'll almost certainly be continuing to interact with DH's family and who knows who's infected at this point - not something you want to worry about when you're eating a sandwich someone kindly makes you.) You can do this stuff without even involving DH if it's too much for him. Please, please take care of your health and the health of the kids, even if it's too tough for your DH to talk about.
Again, sorry you're going through this.
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Post by milee on May 13, 2015 16:28:07 GMT -5
In Florida, the Hepatitis A vaccine isn't required. I looked into last year for my DD and decided against it as its not very prevelant. Yikes. Definitely something to research, then. My kids were vaccinated in AZ and I don't remember if it was required or something we did because 1) we travel a lot and 2) AZ has a large number of undocumented immigrants working in food service who can bring Hep A from other countries where it is more prevalent.
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