UC Berkely - Students want building named after cop killer

[kent]

Really?

www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/20/student-group-demands-california-university-rename-building-after-convicted-cop/

A black student organization at the University of California at Berkeley is demanding the university rename a building on campus after Assata Shakur, a former Black Panther, convicted cop killer and the first woman named to the FBI's Most-Wanted Terrorist List.

A jury convicted Shakur of killing a New Jersey State Trooper in 1979. She escaped prison and fled to Cuba. The FBI calls her a domestic terrorist. In 2013, the agency added her to the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist List, alongside several members of Al Qaeda, airline hijackers and bombers.

But to the Black Student Union at Berkeley, Shakur is an "icon of resistance within oppressed communities (who) represents black resilience in the face of state-sanctioned violence." They demanded the university rename Barrows Hall, named after former Chancellor David Barrows, "Shakur Hall." In 2013, Shakur declared her innocence and called her trial in 1979 a legal lynching by an all-white jury. Shakur, formerly known as Joann Chesimard, belonged to the Black Liberation Army at the time of the shooting.

"We want the renaming for someone -- Assata Shakur.......

[Tennesseer]

Synonyms for ridiculous:
Absurd, cockamamy (or cockamamie), comical, derisive, derisory, farcical, laughable, ludicrous, pathetic, preposterous, risible, silly

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There are so many better icons of black resistance than this woman.

[Opti]

Interesting. When do college students demand and get to rename college buildings?

[djAdvocate]

Mar 20, 2015 16:45:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

Interesting. When do college students demand and get to rename college buildings?

since never.  Regents name them.

[Virgil Showlion]

Mar 20, 2015 16:01:08 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

I guess as long as they are picking a good role model...  

Mar 20, 2015 16:40:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Synonyms for ridiculous:
Absurd, cockamamy (or cockamamie), comical, derisive, derisory, farcical, laughable, ludicrous, pathetic, preposterous, risible, silly

Related Words asinine, brainless, dumb, fatuous, foolish, half-baked, half-witted, harebrained, idiotic (also idiotical), imbecile (or imbecilic), inane, jerky, moronic, nonsensical, simpleminded, stupid, unwise, weak-minded, witless; balmy, cockeyed, crazy, cuckoo, daffy, daft, dotty, insane, kooky (also kookie), loony (also looney), lunatic, mad, nutty, screwball, senseless, wacky (also whacky); fantastic (also fantastical), far-fetched, inconceivable, incredible, unbelievable, unreal, unrealistic, unreasonable; illogical, irrational.

There are so many better icons of black resistance than this woman.

Oh sure. It's the white woman and the white man who ought to decide for the black people who their icons of resistance should be.

I see how it is.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 20, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Mar 20, 2015 16:01:08 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

I guess as long as they are picking a good role model...  

Mar 20, 2015 16:40:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Synonyms for ridiculous:
Absurd, cockamamy (or cockamamie), comical, derisive, derisory, farcical, laughable, ludicrous, pathetic, preposterous, risible, silly

Related Words asinine, brainless, dumb, fatuous, foolish, half-baked, half-witted, harebrained, idiotic (also idiotical), imbecile (or imbecilic), inane, jerky, moronic, nonsensical, simpleminded, stupid, unwise, weak-minded, witless; balmy, cockeyed, crazy, cuckoo, daffy, daft, dotty, insane, kooky (also kookie), loony (also looney), lunatic, mad, nutty, screwball, senseless, wacky (also whacky); fantastic (also fantastical), far-fetched, inconceivable, incredible, unbelievable, unreal, unrealistic, unreasonable; illogical, irrational.

There are so many better icons of black resistance than this woman.

Oh sure. It's the white woman and the white man who ought to decide for the black people who their icons of resistance should be.

I see how it is.

Who did I decide was th icon for them, Virgil. What is the person's name. Name him or her.

Your post is ridiculous.

[Opti]

Mar 20, 2015 16:50:27 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 20, 2015 16:45:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

Interesting. When do college students demand and get to rename college buildings?

since never.  Regents name them.

I was thinking as bizarre and weird as it might be, seemed like a non-issue to me.

I've noticed buildings might get renamed to honor someone or because there was

a big money donor, but I've never ever heard of students getting a building renamed.

[NastyWoman]

Mar 20, 2015 18:25:50 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

Mar 20, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Oh sure. It's the white woman and the white man who ought to decide for the black people who their icons of resistance should be.

I see how it is.

Lol you got me...just my way of keeping up my white privilege.  I suppose it doesn't matter that I would also be against the Goebbels Center for the Arts. 

Or, thinking further along those lines... The Mengele School of Medicine 

[djAdvocate]

Mar 20, 2015 18:49:29 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 20, 2015 16:50:27 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

since never.  Regents name them.

I was thinking as bizarre and weird as it might be, seemed like a non-issue to me.

I've noticed buildings might get renamed to honor someone or because there was

a big money donor, but I've never ever heard of students getting a building renamed.

yeah, that is because it literally never happens.  well, i have never heard of it happening, anyway.

[Ombud]

Mar 20, 2015 21:46:16 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Mar 20, 2015 18:25:50 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

Lol you got me...just my way of keeping up my white privilege.  I suppose it doesn't matter that I would also be against the Goebbels Center for the Arts. 

Or, thinking further along those lines... The Mengele School of Medicine 

or they could donate 100m like the Benihoff's and get a hospital bldg named after them or a center like the Goebbel's just bc you give them the land instead of selling it ... oh wait. Hard to do that if you dedicate your life to protesting / looting / civil unrest but we're free to pick our own way to make our own mark on society

[kittensaver]

Berkeley

just sayin . . . .

[Deleted]

It is scary that that school community doesn't think they have better role models than someone classified as a terrorist. 

[siralynn]

May 4, 2015 9:35:19 GMT -5 kittensaver said:

Berkeley

just sayin . . . .

Hah! I was going to post a correction earlier and resisted the urge. Glad I'm not the only one it bothered.

[NancysSummerSip]

Mar 20, 2015 17:52:46 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 20, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Oh sure. It's the white woman and the white man who ought to decide for the black people who their icons of resistance should be.

I see how it is.

Who did I decide was th icon for them, Virgil. What is the person's name. Name him or her.

Your post is ridiculous.

Agreed on the ridiculousness of Virgil's post. At the core, race has nothing to do with this. Shakur/Chesimard ended the life of another human being. Their respective races have nothing to do with the fact that a murder was committed. If the roles were reversed, or the races were reversed, it would not matter. Not only committed the crime, but served only a small portion of her sentence, escaped and ran like a coward to another country, one with no extradition treaty with the US.

The students, and Shakur/Chesimard herself can glorify it all they want. She can claim adherence to any group she wants. She can declare anything she wants. She's a criminal, a murderer and deserves no glory. I hope improved relations with Cuba means they send her back here. The family of the officer she killed deserves better.

As for these students, I pity them. You cannot find someone better to emulate, someone whose name is more worthy to put on a building, then maybe your parents need to rethink paying that very expensive tuition to educate your tiny minds.

[kittensaver]

Relax, peeps

Students are not allowed to name buildings. They can "demand" and/or grandstand all they want, but it ain't goin' anywhere . . . just sayin' . . .