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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Mar 7, 2015 22:03:29 GMT -5
I think if u just treat kids like people then its no biggie. My niece treats her kids like people - instead of kids. Which is probably why they're little hellions. They're 7 & 9 yrs old and monsters.
She thinks that being their "pal" and letting them do what they want "since they're just kids" is more important than structure & discipline. The ONLY time they behave is when they're at my brother's place (her father, their gr'father) - because he won't put up with their sh*t and they actually pay attention to him and obey when they're being brats.
He loves them to death, and shows it to them all the time, but he won't tolerate them running roughshod around him either - and they know it . Something his daughter apparently hasn't learned from.
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Post by msventoux on Mar 7, 2015 22:47:47 GMT -5
Not good with them at all. In fact, I generally really dislike being around them. It started when I was a preteen and my dad was going through a religious phase so we had to hang out with the pastor's tribe of 12 savages, otherwise known as children. Excellent form of birth control. Bet my parents never thought it would be so effective that they would never, ever have grandchildren.
However, I'm really good with animals. Most seem to be drawn to me, even the ones who generally don't like strangers.
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 7, 2015 23:18:31 GMT -5
I don't like little kids at all. Babies are cute but I don't want to hold them. Teenagers are cool as long as they are respectful.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 8, 2015 9:02:28 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2015 9:20:12 GMT -5
I have been known to announce "I hate little kids". It is just shorthand. What it means for me is that the challenges presented by working with people who have brains at a particular level of development are challenges I don't wish to face. Not to mention they are short, tend to stand too close, and I frequently step on them. I feel badly when I do so not having them underfoot is the easiest way for me to not feel badly.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 8, 2015 9:34:12 GMT -5
I have been known to announce "I hate little kids". It is just shorthand. What it means for me is that the challenges presented by working with people who have brains at a particular level of development are challenges I don't wish to face. Not to mention they are short, tend to stand too close, and I frequently step on them. I feel badly when I do so not having them underfoot is the easiest way for me to not feel badly. Well, then of course you should avoid "people like that" and probably avoid those with Alzheimer's, mentally challenged, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 9:52:41 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird. I don't know, If it's true, it's true. They can be really hard to relate to especially if you didn't raise them yourself. And you couldn't get one of my brother's in an assisted living place to save his life, he is really uncomfortable around old people.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 8, 2015 9:59:54 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird. I don't know, If it's true, it's true. They can be really hard to relate to especially if you didn't raise them yourself. And you couldn't get one of my brother's in an assisted living place to save his life, he is really uncomfortable around old people. I am not saying whether it true or not true. But, it is socially acceptable to make those kinds of comments.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2015 10:04:45 GMT -5
I have been known to announce "I hate little kids". It is just shorthand. What it means for me is that the challenges presented by working with people who have brains at a particular level of development are challenges I don't wish to face. Not to mention they are short, tend to stand too close, and I frequently step on them. I feel badly when I do so not having them underfoot is the easiest way for me to not feel badly. Well, then of course you should avoid "people like that" and probably avoid those with Alzheimer's, mentally challenged, etc. I do work to minimize the amount of time I spend with those type individuals. I also work very hard when I do spend time with them to not allow my personal issues to create a less than positive experience for them. I have had plenty of feedback of "I don't understand why you say you hate little kids, you are so good with them." Yeah, because I worked my ass off to be good with them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 10:07:18 GMT -5
I just spent 10 minutes arguing with my 4 year old that his eyes are on his face. It can be a little maddening. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 10:12:30 GMT -5
Lots of that is about our need to control though. I try to say it once, maybe twice, then either go with, ok bud whatever you say, or something funny, like maybe your eyes are on a potato or the middle of a storm...
Otherwise I end up acting like a 4 year old....
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 8, 2015 10:51:46 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird. Sure it would be fine to say "I hate old people". Time is the enemy of the person who states 'I hate old people.'
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 8, 2015 10:54:24 GMT -5
I'm not good with kids. When people bring their little hellions to my cottage, it tends to ruin my weekend. "Don't smoke around the kids!" "Don't swear around the kids!" "Turn down the TV/music, the kids are napping" "I'm going to the store. Can you watch the kids, so they don't drown?" "No. we can't go canoeing. Who is going to watch the kids?" "Ooops! Sorry! Little Johnny just dropped your martini pitcher." "Do you mind if I turn off the movie? The kids want to play video games." "The screaming? Oh, they're just playing." "Little Johnny isn't quite toilet-trained yet, but won't wear a diaper because he's a big boy. Isn't that cute?" No.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 8, 2015 10:55:29 GMT -5
I ended up the last 9 years of my teaching career not only teaching little kids but those with varying abilities. That being said, I still enjoy being around kids whose parents have made the effort to civilize them. I realize that kids can have meltdowns and when I see parents making the effort to get the situation under control, I'm good with that. When they're hands off parents raising feral children? Not so much.
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Post by mroped on Mar 8, 2015 11:41:46 GMT -5
I love being arround kids! Love babies, but I love to death toddlers and litle kids up to a first, second grade. that is because I'm fascinated by the way they process tought and the way they talk. I tend to treat them as equal and they open a lot faster to communication. That's not to say that when I'm arround a three year old, I become a three year old myself ( don't ask my wife for her opinion of me on the matter. You may not like what she's saying!) Im alright with teenagers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 11:47:51 GMT -5
We do compliment each other this way. We are better with different ages.
Do tell him that trying to be good with teenagers doesn't mean helping them hit on the waitress...
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Post by Pants on Mar 8, 2015 13:51:23 GMT -5
I was never good with kids. Then I had one. I think I'm good with my kid - and I become good with other kids in her age group as she grows. I still don't know how to deal with kids older than her though. I think it's a matter of acclimating myself to different stages - the more I'm around the more I understand what and how they think.
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Post by Opti on Mar 8, 2015 14:35:50 GMT -5
Lots of that is about our need to control though. I try to say it once, maybe twice, then either go with, ok bud whatever you say, or something funny, like maybe your eyes are on a potato or the middle of a storm... Otherwise I end up acting like a 4 year old.... I think that might be the key. I recently had some training on Dementia and one of things we were told was to go with whatever they say. So if they say something like 'you stole my purse' a decent response is 'I brought it back' instead of 'No, I did not'.
One of the instructors said if they aren't going to believe you or change their mind it is more respectful to acknowledge their reality and move on. Not sure if that would work with kids, but might be worth a try.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 8, 2015 15:01:22 GMT -5
Yes you can not argue a demented person back into reality.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 8, 2015 15:42:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty good with kids 8+. I'm not bad with 4-8. Im adequate with B-4. I feel like this will be me.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 8, 2015 16:18:33 GMT -5
I just spent 10 minutes arguing with my 4 year old that his eyes are on his face. It can be a little maddening. :-) My eyes are on my shoulder Where are his?
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Post by Opti on Mar 8, 2015 18:55:03 GMT -5
Wow, I'm kind of like POM. I prefer other folks deal with babies. I am actually pretty good with most toddlers in small doses, i.e. no diaper changing just keeping them amused.
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Post by teen persuasion on Mar 8, 2015 21:35:03 GMT -5
Ha, I guess we all have our favorite ages that we like. I LOVE babies, newborns, toddlers, preschoolers. As they get further along in school, some of them develop attitudes I'm not as fond of. I think my least favorite age is eleven, the know-it-all age it seems. Most of the teens I know are amazing to watch develop, the interests they explore and pursue.
I like to think that I'm good with kids, I've got five, and work with children, but they are all individuals. Some are definitely easier to deal with than others. I like the curious, inquisitive ones much better than the argumentative bratty ones.
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Post by Apple on Mar 8, 2015 22:43:35 GMT -5
I'm awesome with little ones! From around newborn (though, newborns are pretty boring), to 1st grade or so. I suck at small talk, so that's where I start to lose them. But being asked 100 questions, or reading a book, or making a mess? I'm all in.
I'm the one who loves to watch them make new discoveries, and everything is so new at that age, that they are a lot of fun.
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Post by bobosensei on Mar 9, 2015 0:10:45 GMT -5
You can put me in the category of not very good. I wasn't raised around kids and never babysat growing up. My mom was the oldest of 5 with an alcoholic mother so she felt like she raised her siblings and she gave us the opposite upbringing. We were never asked to help with siblings, which we were all pretty close in age anyhow.
I've accidentally done some very stupid things with kids because I had no idea it was wrong.
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 9, 2015 0:22:14 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird. I wouldn't say that I hate little kids. They are just so noisy and generally tend to have parents that are oblivious to the fact that their hellions are running around screaming because they lack parenting skills. My kids never acted like that when they were little because I didn't put up with it. Why should I have to deal with their devil child because they can't be bothered?
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Post by Shooby on Mar 9, 2015 5:42:55 GMT -5
I think that is a different issue than "hating" all kids in the collective. There are plenty of loud, annoying, boorish adults as well. So, I don't think it is a kid issue per se. But, yes, there are some really idiot parents out there too.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 9, 2015 8:00:50 GMT -5
I've got three and they are not dead yet.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 9, 2015 8:04:27 GMT -5
I don't understand the "I hate kids" or "I hate babies or teens" type thing. If someone said "I hate old people" would anyone find that OK? Seems weird. I wouldn't say that I hate little kids. They are just so noisy and generally tend to have parents that are oblivious to the fact that their hellions are running around screaming because they lack parenting skills. My kids never acted like that when they were little because I didn't put up with it. Why should I have to deal with their devil child because they can't be bothered? Just making sure I understand - you are either 1) not liking little kids bc of their parents or 2) not liking little kids bc yours were so much better And for the record - there are A LOT less devil children, there are, however, a LOT of ignorant and intolerant adults
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 9, 2015 8:07:56 GMT -5
I've got three and they are not dead yet. I let mine live to see 21 so there is hope for everyone here
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