Guns don't kill people- toddlers do

[EVT1]

Well luckily no one was killed- so far.

news.yahoo.com/boy-three-shoots-18-month-old-brother-tennessee-235621092.html

    A 3-year-old boy shot his 18-month-old brother in the head in rural Tennessee and investigators are trying to determine how he gained access to the handgun, authorities said.

Only in America- just another accident.

The best and worst of Tennessee in one story. 

 

[EVT1]

If only there was a good 3 year old with a gun to stop the bad 3 year old

If only the 18 month old was armed.

Support the NRA- because we are fucking insane!

[mroped]

I think we should teach all children how to handle a gun and how to properly store them away from the reach of their parents!
Or is it the other way around?

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what causes more deaths to children, bathtubs or guns?

[mmhmm]

Mar 5, 2015 19:03:51 GMT -5 @hickle said:

what causes more deaths to children, bathtubs or guns?

How is that relevant? 

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Maybe they should have invested in a good locking(or combination lock) gun safe, as well as trigger-locks for the weapons.

Especially with toddlers in the residence.

What person in their right mind leaves a loaded weapon just lying around?

ETA: I recall another thread a few months ago - about a small child or toddler getting his little hands on a weapon in the home and shooting a sibling. Same sort of scenario as this one - they almost sound like identical stories (I'm not going to wade through pages of the forum to find the other thread - but they sound almost identical.

In either case, it's the adults/parents in the house (if they own weapons and have children residing in the home) - to keep their weapons secured/locked-up.

Curious little minds want to play with everything .

[Tennesseer]

If only all gun owners took gun safety seriously. Not some, but all.



Texas Child Shootings Kill 3 Boys In 4 Days In Same County

3/3/2015

A rash of tragic child shootings in Texas over the weekend has led local law enforcement to appeal for gun safety."

I beg of you, help us to keep from having to respond to tragedy that can be prevented," Harris County Sheriff Adrian Garcia said at a news conference Monday, after deputies responded to the third fatal accidental shooting involving children in four days."

I don't want another family to even have to fathom going through this terrible experience," he added.

All three shootings occurred within Harris County, within the greater Houston metropolitan area. In response to the tragedies, the Sheriff's Office and Harris County Constable Ron Hickman reminded the public that their offices distribute free gun locks."

If we can prevent one person from being killed or hurt from firearm accidents through the distribution of these free gun locks, then we have met our challenge," Hickman said in a statement Monday.

Rest of story here:
Texas Child Shootings Kill 3 Boys In 4 Days In Same County

[mmhmm]

Good grief! That's horrible, Tennesseer! Three little dead kids?!? <shudder>

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I'm shocked by how many unloaded guns kill people. Sometimes while they are cleaning them. Or leaving them around for kids to play with.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 5, 2015 21:09:14 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Good grief! That's horrible, Tennesseer! Three little dead kids?!? <shudder>

I imagine the first child's death made the local TV news. So would the second death a day later. You would hope all gun owners would check their weapons to ensure no one else would get hurt.

The article reminded me of hot car deaths of infants. Here in Memphis 10 or so years ago, it was a hot summer period and the TV news was reminding everyone several times a day about checking their cars to make sure no infants and children were left in them. Yet one day we had two separate incidents of infants left in hot cars. Both babies died.

How many times do adults need to be hit in the head to remember the dangers to infants, children and others?

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Mar 5, 2015 19:30:11 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

It's too bad the parents weren't members of the NRA, so they could have taken a gun safety glass .

They do a lot of work in that area - proud to be a lifetime member!

I support the gun safety programs of the NRA. But I believe the leadership is paranoid and borderline anti government. They seem to address second amendment militia groups. Carrying AK47's into fast food establishments!!  Real hunters keep their guns in their trucks before entering stores.

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Mar 5, 2015 19:30:11 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

It's too bad the parents weren't members of the NRA, so they could have taken a gun safety glass .

They do a lot of work in that area - proud to be a lifetime member!

Education goes a long way in improving gun safety. Education is what the NRA does well. Proud to be a lifetime (and benefactor) member.

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Mar 5, 2015 22:09:09 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Mar 5, 2015 19:30:11 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

It's too bad the parents weren't members of the NRA, so they could have taken a gun safety glass .

They do a lot of work in that area - proud to be a lifetime member!

I support the gun safety programs of the NRA. But I believe the leadership is paranoid and borderline anti government. They seem to address second amendment militia groups. Carrying AK47's into fast food establishments!!  Real hunters keep their guns in their trucks before entering stores.

What's a "real hunter" ? What does hunting have to do with open carry ?

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Mar 5, 2015 19:07:55 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Mar 5, 2015 19:03:51 GMT -5 @hickle said:

what causes more deaths to children, bathtubs or guns?

How is that relevant? 

If bathtubs kill more young children than guns, a background check and mandatory education should be required before allowing parents to wash their kids in them. Seems like a reasonable and common sense safety approach to reduce child death.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Does open carry mean it makes sense to carry an assault rifle into a store? Is it safe? Are you protecting yourself and if so from who? How does the clerk know you aren't robbing him? 

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Mar 6, 2015 12:33:19 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Does open carry mean it makes sense to carry an assault rifle into a store? Is it safe? Are you protecting yourself and if so from who? How does the clerk know you aren't robbing him? 

I just wanted to know what a "real hunter" is, as you referenced.  I also wanted to know what hunting has to do with open carry,  which you also referenced in the same post.  You made the statements.  What did you mean by them?  Once that low hurdle has been passed, I'll be more than happy to answer your questions.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

IMO a real hunter is someone who owns guns for the sport of hunting, usually in designated areas away from the general public. Definitely not stores. They keep their guns safely secured and only carry them in the woods/field/water, wherever they are hunting.

I didn't specifically mention open carry. Just a comment that rifles have no place in fast food places. To me open carry means arming yourself with a gun for protection.

[wvugurl26]

It's tragic that happened. It's completely irresponsible gun ownership on the parents part. I grew up with guns. We were taught gun safety and there were never loaded guns in the house. My brother has a carry permit. When we are visiting relatives with small children it is either way up out of reach (top of kitchen cabinets) or in a safe. In all cases it is unloaded.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

wvugurl26 is a good example of a responsible gun owner.

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Mar 6, 2015 13:00:51 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

IMO a real hunter is someone who owns guns for the sport of hunting, usually in designated areas away from the general public. Definitely not stores. They keep their guns safely secured and only carry them in the woods/field/water, wherever they are hunting.

I didn't specifically mention open carry. Just a comment that rifles have no place in fast food places. To me open carry means arming yourself with a gun for protection.

You were using the term "real hunter" as in only a hunter. I have no issue with that. I know a lot of people who hunt, but wouldn't use a gun for self defense carry.

[mmhmm]

Mar 6, 2015 12:29:34 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Mar 5, 2015 19:07:55 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

How is that relevant? 

If bathtubs kill more young children than guns, a background check and mandatory education should be required before allowing parents to wash their kids in them. Seems like a reasonable and common sense safety approach to reduce child death.

Totally illogical. The purpose of a firearm is destruction. It doesn't matter whether the gun is destroying a human life, or a tin can. That's still the purpose of firearms. Bathtubs, on the other hand have a completely different purpose. Ergo, guns can be expected to kill since that's what they do. That doesn't apply to bathtubs. Let's try to keep it real, eh?

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Mar 6, 2015 12:33:19 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Does open carry mean it makes sense to carry an assault rifle into a store? Is it safe? Are you protecting yourself and if so from who? How does the clerk know you aren't robbing him? 

I'm to have to get slightly technical here to answer.  1) No it does not make sense to carry an assault rifle into a store because an assault rifle is a rifle that is switchable to full automatic machine gun by a lever or switch on the weapon.  (could you of meant assault weapon?)  2)  It is safe as the person using it.  3)  You would be protecting yourself from anyone intending to cause great bodily harm or what ever requirement by law is needed for use of deadly force.  4) Clerks in the open carry state (Missouri) that I travel in don't even pay attention to weapons being carried as far as I've ever seen.  Sometimes two or three people will be carrying guns in the store at one time.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I stand corrected. Assault rifle is an overused wrong term for my point. My point is why would anyone carry a rifle into a public place. You say protection. IMO they should carry a gun in a holster on their body for protection. Having the right to do something doesn't make it acceptable in all cases.

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Mar 6, 2015 13:37:18 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Mar 6, 2015 12:29:34 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

If bathtubs kill more young children than guns, a background check and mandatory education should be required before allowing parents to wash their kids in them. Seems like a reasonable and common sense safety approach to reduce child death.

Totally illogical. The purpose of a firearm is destruction. It doesn't matter whether the gun is destroying a human life, or a tin can. That's still the purpose of firearms. Bathtubs, on the other hand have a completely different purpose. Ergo, guns can be expected to kill since that's what they do. That doesn't apply to bathtubs. Let's try to keep it real, eh?

It's totally illogical to prevent child deaths by regulating the education of parents on the dangers of bathtubs and small children ? Or background checking them for previous accidents with small children ? I don't understand your point on the "purpose" of an item when it can kill innocent children regardless of it's intended purpose. In reverse, one can say a guns purpose is to protect small children from a deranged attacker. Subjective perspective is applied in all situations.

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Mar 6, 2015 14:02:53 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I stand corrected. Assault rifle is an overused wrong term for my point. My point is why would anyone carry a rifle into a public place. You say protection. IMO they should carry a gun in a holster on their body for protection. Having the right to do something doesn't make it acceptable in all cases.

Of course it doesn't make it acceptable in all cases,  But now were entering into the subjective realm of social acceptance by all versus legal acceptance by a ruling majority in a Democracy.  I don't know the social situation where you are from, but here in Arkansas/Missouri, rifles are ignored in 99% of the social situations and handguns garner more negative attention.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Hunting and gun ownership is big here, but I've never seen anyone carry a rifle into a store, except for the gun store.

I can see your point of rifles being more accepted there then handguns. Still I can't see myself carrying a rifle everywhere I went. I'll say there's a time and a place.

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Mar 6, 2015 14:50:30 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Hunting and gun ownership is big here, but I've never seen anyone carry a rifle into a store, except for the gun store.

I can see your point of rifles being more accepted there then handguns. Still I can't see myself carrying a rifle everywhere I went. I'll say there's a time and a place.

I agree.  I hate carrying a rifle, even when hunting.  What a pain in the ass.  I've never brought one into of any place of business.  I do carry a small revolver (.38 S/W Airweight) as a open/concealed carry gun.

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More than 7,000 People Every Year Die from Doctors' Poor Handwriting

You should maybe start a new thread everytime some doctor writes a prescription that is hard to read.

[NastyWoman]

Mar 5, 2015 22:09:09 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Mar 5, 2015 19:30:11 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

It's too bad the parents weren't members of the NRA, so they could have taken a gun safety glass .

They do a lot of work in that area - proud to be a lifetime member!

I support the gun safety programs of the NRA. But I believe the leadership is paranoid and borderline anti government. They seem to address second amendment militia groups. Carrying AK47's into fast food establishments!!  Real hunters keep their guns in their trucks before entering stores.

     This reminded me of Jeff Foxworthy:
You might be e redneck if ...your truck has a new sunroof because the shotgun fell off the rack when you slammed the door.

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Mar 6, 2015 18:24:22 GMT -5 @hickle said:

More than 7,000 People Every Year Die from Doctors' Poor Handwriting

You should maybe start a new thread everytime some doctor writes a prescription that is hard to read.

You, me, or any other layman may have a hard time reading a prescrip - but I've never had a Pharmacist mess up with a prescription. My niece is a Pharmacist and reading a Dr's scrawl isn't that difficult.

I can decipher mine easily enough by looking at the prescrip form as to what the med is, and the dosage strength & and # of times/day to take before it even reaches the Pharmacy to be filled.

Your link is also over 8 yrs old - so I wouldn't place much accuracy on its content.