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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 19:48:38 GMT -5
So you are oppressed under government? Would anarchy be better? More free? I don't think that the only other option to freedom is oppression and you didn't ask what was better, you asked if this is the freest we have ever been. Anarchy would be more free. I don't know that it translates into better. Unfortunately I don't think I'm one of the ones that is strong enough to win every battle to get my own way on everything. As for being oppressed, I'm not the best example of feeling oppressed. I know that many Native Americans feel that they have been oppressed under this system. Actually that is a good example of how we are not free. Native Americans lived in a way that interfered with our current system so their way of life was pretty much annihilated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:10:43 GMT -5
Anarchy = freedom. Interesting notion. For whom?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:16:06 GMT -5
Everyone that can fight off anyone trying to control them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:22:05 GMT -5
I have a friend (?) who believes that if we had the freedoms of anarchy and were no longer oppressed by things like compulsory education we would all find our appropriate moral compass and live happily ever after in self actualized community...
Pisses her off when I tell her how much like Marx that sounds ... She fancies herself more of a Randian. Eh well, it's all fantasy.
I'm still in a cranky mood apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:54:51 GMT -5
As for your question about when and where people have been as free as we are now, the ruling race is usually this free. Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, British...well at least the ruling classes of those races. Those are just the examples I can think of off the top of mind. We live in the ruling society at the moment so even with the crumbs I'm better off than a lot of people in the world. But I don't think that my situation is unique throughout history.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:59:30 GMT -5
Honestly? You are comparing your life and freedoms to the peasant and slave classes of those societies? Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 21:24:26 GMT -5
Honestly? You are comparing your life and freedoms to the peasant and slave classes of those societies? Seriously? There were more than peasants and slaves in those societies. I would more compare myself to the farmers or merchants maybe. And even in the slave classes of those societies there were different classes. Not everyone that lives in North America has as much freedom as I do. On the other hand the upper classes of those other societies had more freedom than I have.
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Post by wyouser on Mar 2, 2015 12:11:07 GMT -5
Where is easy, It was in Africa. When.... was the day the first "man" showed up on the planet AND, the day before he met the first woman. He hasn't really been totally free since (now this is the point where I get sent out to my rock in the backyard right?)
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Post by tloonya on Mar 6, 2015 12:52:52 GMT -5
Didn't Rome have slavery? Why didn't it last? They weren't paid?
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Post by tloonya on Mar 6, 2015 12:56:16 GMT -5
Adam and Eve were more free but then Eve had to screw it up. ...an apple? Well, I am going to go screw a few apples. Any suggestions will be appreciated, Archie.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 6, 2015 13:24:06 GMT -5
Adam and Eve were more free but then Eve had to screw it up. ...an apple? Well, I am going to go screw a few apples. Any suggestions will be appreciated, Archie. I suggest a banana.
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Post by tloonya on Mar 6, 2015 13:27:33 GMT -5
...an apple? Well, I am going to go screw a few apples. Any suggestions will be appreciated, Archie. I suggest a banana. Wouldn't that be that I am screwing myself? And wouldn't we end up somewhere alone together at time off from mods in about...whenever they find out first? 1....2.....3....
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