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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 15, 2015 17:39:51 GMT -5
Florida became 'hotbed' for sovereign citizens, who FBI calls domestic terroristsJoseph Paffen died with a 9 mm Smith & Wesson pistol in his hand. His empty shoulder holster had two magazines holding 34 bullets. And a pack on his belt held four more magazines with 68 bullets. The 46-year-old Sovereign Citizen was killed Feb. 8 after a gun battle with Orange County deputies outside a Publix supermarket in Orlando. Paffen's death becomes the latest deadly confrontation between a sovereign citizen and U.S. law enforcement, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Office. A day after the fatal shooting, Sheriff Jerry Demings said Paffen "fancied himself a sovereign citizen...whatever that means to him." The FBI identifies sovereign citizens as domestic terrorists who do not recognize the authority of state and federal government or the court system. They create their own drivers licenses as well as other documents. This has led to frequent confrontations with law-enforcement officials. Over the past decade, more than a dozen police officers and members of the anti-government movement have died nationwide in gun battles. Rest of story here: Florida became 'hotbed' for sovereign citizens, who FBI calls domestic terroristsAre boat horns now part of their arsenal?
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 15, 2015 17:47:14 GMT -5
Key West loves to secede at times! Florida can't help that it's so nice that even crazies want to live there. We don't protect our borders, either. Unfortunately.
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Post by swamp on Feb 15, 2015 19:43:46 GMT -5
I've dealt with sovereign citizens. They're pains in the ass and hypocrites. Never met in ethat wasn't accepting some sort of government benefit.
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swamp
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Post by swamp on Feb 15, 2015 19:45:10 GMT -5
Key West loves to secede at times! Florida can't help that it's so nice that even crazies want to live there. We don't protect our borders, either. Unfortunately. Sovereign citizens are usually homegrown nut bags. |
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 15, 2015 20:46:58 GMT -5
I've dealt with sovereign citizens. They're pains in the ass and hypocrites. Never met in ethat wasn't accepting some sort of government benefit. I guess I live a isolated exhistence..never heard the term before this thread...I can imagine they are a pain the butt... |
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Post by Opti on Feb 15, 2015 20:48:23 GMT -5
Now I know how to solve that picture ID issue.   Drawings are pictures, correct? 
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Tennesseer
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 15, 2015 20:51:15 GMT -5
I've dealt with sovereign citizens. They're pains in the ass and hypocrites. Never met in ethat wasn't accepting some sort of government benefit. I guess I live a isolated exhistence..never heard the term before this thread...I can imagine they are a pain the butt... Check out the year 2010 in the provided link, Desi. To ssy the least, it was big news here in Memphis. Sovereign Citizens |
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