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Post by EVT1 on Feb 6, 2015 20:50:38 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 20:53:18 GMT -5
Neva.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Feb 6, 2015 20:53:40 GMT -5
Probably not. But our CO state legislators are trying to pass a bill right now that will allow it here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 23:17:34 GMT -5
Depends... (well... you DID include "ever"... twice!... LOL). We'd need Justices that weren't "life at all costs" (usually religious people are like that). So... it's possible... sometime in the future. With the current "sitting" Justices? No farkin way.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Feb 6, 2015 23:32:00 GMT -5
I wish Canada (where I live) had this in effect when my SIL as was lingering in severe agony & pain dying from liver cancer. Her journey would have been less painful and severe - instead she had to lie in a bed withering away while tubes and monitors (and invasive drugs - including Morphine) which pretty much left her incoherent on most days made her nauseous and deathly ill (As if she wasn't already).
At least we're stepping into the 21st century here and offering patients who are terminal the option to end life with dignity.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 7, 2015 1:15:14 GMT -5
Court gave them the right to ask but I don't believe it mandated that Doctors once asked HAVE to give that help...
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 7, 2015 12:23:42 GMT -5
Court gave them the right to ask but I don't believe it mandated that Doctors once asked HAVE to give that help...The majority of our doctors are for it. If one doctor won't do it, another will. You can't force someone to administer a lethal dose of morphine or perform an abortion against their will, but there are plenty of docs who will oblige. Quebec legalized this last year, and happily, the rest of Canada followed suit. 84% of Canadians support this decision.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 7, 2015 13:19:34 GMT -5
I'll be an illegal invader to Canada if I get terminally ill!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 7, 2015 13:48:42 GMT -5
Court gave them the right to ask but I don't believe it mandated that Doctors once asked HAVE to give that help...The majority of our doctors are for it. If one doctor won't do it, another will. You can't force someone to administer a lethal dose of morphine or perform an abortion against their will, but there are plenty of docs who will oblige. Quebec legalized this last year, and happily, the rest of Canada followed suit. 84% of Canadians support this decision.
Are any of the hospitals in Canada associated with the Catholic church? In the US, there are a few states that have passed physician assisted suicide, and fortunately I live in one. However, the problem comes not from the physicians but they hospitals that they are associated with. Locally, the only hospital is St. Joseph's, which is Catholic. Any physician that is in town that has admitting privileges in this hospital MUST conform to their rules, which includes that they must not provide this service to their patients if they ask. So it's not merely a matter of finding another doctor but leaving the area. So for you to get this, you have to establish a medical relationship with a physician 100 miles down the road in order to be able to set this up. This guy wrote a particularly poignant blog that's worth reading. www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-while-dying/201102/first-post-my-story
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 7, 2015 21:48:13 GMT -5
The majority of our doctors are for it. If one doctor won't do it, another will. You can't force someone to administer a lethal dose of morphine or perform an abortion against their will, but there are plenty of docs who will oblige. Quebec legalized this last year, and happily, the rest of Canada followed suit. 84% of Canadians support this decision.
Are any of the hospitals in Canada associated with the Catholic church?
In the US, there are a few states that have passed physician assisted suicide, and fortunately I live in one. However, the problem comes not from the physicians but they hospitals that they are associated with. Locally, the only hospital is St. Joseph's, which is Catholic. Any physician that is in town that has admitting privileges in this hospital MUST conform to their rules, which includes that they must not provide this service to their patients if they ask. So it's not merely a matter of finding another doctor but leaving the area. So for you to get this, you have to establish a medical relationship with a physician 100 miles down the road in order to be able to set this up. This guy wrote a particularly poignant blog that's worth reading. www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-while-dying/201102/first-post-my-storyI don't know about the rest of Canada, but not here. Hospitals stopped being associated with churches during the Quiet Revolution in the 60s. Many are still called St This and That or the Jewish General, but they're all basically the same. I was a patient at the Jewish at one time and I'm not Jewish. Damn fine hospital.
It's a very peculiar thing. EVERYTHING in Quebec is named after saints. Hospitals, schools, streets and villages. However, it's one of the most secular places in North America. Church attendance has dropped from 80% to 8%. I guess it would be too much of a PITA to rename everything. Maybe we need it as a reminder of the oppression by the catholic church. The most offensive swearing has to do with the most previously sacred things. Tabernacle. Chalice. Host, etc. Far more offensive than acts of reproduction or bodily emissions. It's odd.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 7, 2015 21:50:58 GMT -5
I'll be an illegal invader to Canada if I get terminally ill! Washington State has a good Death with Dignity law.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 7, 2015 22:24:56 GMT -5
I'll be an illegal invader to Canada if I get terminally ill! Washington State has a good Death with Dignity law. It does, but this is a stickler in the law. We have dealt with this in researching this option for a friend whose dad had ALS. There are a lot of hospitals with religious association, and if a doctor wants admitting privileges at them! He must comply by their rules by not helping a patient die.
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