Bruce Jenner transformation

[Opti]

What do you think? How would you feel if it were your spouse?

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The former Olympian and reality star, 65, has taped an interview and is currently filming an unscripted E! reality series of his own about his “desire to look like a woman and live as one,” reports Us Weekly.

“It’s a docuseries featuring the Jenner family talking about Bruce ‘coming out.’ The world will see his full transformation,” a source told the magazine.

The magazine claims Jenner finally feels comfortable speaking out because of the support of his 10 children and stepchildren.

“He has been carrying this with him for so long that everyone is relieved he is starting to come out with it,” the source said. “They were so worried that their dad had no one to talk to about this. They are happy when he opens up because it’s been such a long time coming.”

[Tennesseer]

Whatever works for her.

I could not care less. Maybe because she is part of the Kardashisn clan.

[NancysSummerSip]

Good for him. I wish him the best. It has to be very hard to make sense of your life when your inner being makes no sense to you.

I have a friend who is transgendered, also male to female, and has lived a very successful life. As a male, there was service in the armed forces (making it to an officer's rank), marriage and kids. Now she owns an extremely successful website design business. I hope Jenner finds a good life with whatever is next.

[The Captain]

Honestly wouldn't care.  I fell in love with the person, not the gender.

[ArchietheDragon]

I would think it was weird.  Super weird.  


I feel badly for him, though.  It must be really hard living with those feelings of so not being comfortable with who you are. 

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I could care less what he or the rest of that family does. I just wish the gossip rags and TV "celebrity news" shows ("ET, "Insider", etc) would shut up about that entire family.

The talk of his transformation, and alleged pre-surgery hormone treatments has been going on forever. Yawn.

(We've had 5 or 6 threads just here alone about the "K's".)

[billisonboard]

I don't consume any of the media that addresses any of this. I do however think it is a positive for others who are struggling with these type issues to see they are not alone. 

[lexxy703]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is all for reality tv.  Anyone else I wouldn't say that, but there is nothing these people wouldn't do for celebrity.

[zibazinski]

I would laugh my ass off if my EX did this!!

[mmhmm]

I'm really working hard at building up some interest. So far, I'm afraid I've failed miserably. 

[Jaguar]

Feb 5, 2015 18:55:04 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I'm really working hard at building up some interest. So far, I'm afraid I've failed miserably. 

Yes I'm with you on that, no interest whatsoever.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Me either - which I posted the other day.

The trouble is, the gossip rag tabloids at the checkout counter, and television "entertainment" shows are providing constant coverage of the whole "K" family.

I wouldn't put too much belief in this transformation (sex-change) rumor-mill gossip until it actually happens. From what I've been forced through media to learn, he (and almost everyone else in that family) has undergone numerous cosmetic procedures. (Just look at the size of Kim's ridiculously enhanced derrière from the pictures you can't avoid seeing).

Jenner has had more cosmetic surgery done on his face now to try and re-capture his youth, that he looks more plastic than a Barbie or Ken doll.

He was once a handsome man - but we all age - some just accept it and do it gracefully - while others (like him) go to such extreme and drastic measures.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 5, 2015 11:02:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whatever works for her.

I could not care less. Maybe because she is part of the Kardashisn clan.

Actually I just became aware of this the other day and initially did a little shudder before moving on...I may be having a senior moment but wasn't he and his first wife into being into each other and then after his success he wanted out of the relationship ..or am I mixing it up with another individual...

I am moving on though...in a way feel bad that I had a negative reaction initially...

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Feb 5, 2015 11:02:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whatever works for her.

I could not care less. Maybe because she is part of the Kardashisn clan.

Why do you say "her" and "she"? Bruce Jenner is still Bruce Jenner - and male.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 5, 2015 19:32:52 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Feb 5, 2015 11:02:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whatever works for her.

I could not care less. Maybe because she is part of the Kardashisn clan.

Why do you say "her" and "she"? Bruce Jenner is still Bruce Jenner - and male.

For the same reason Anne81 did. Jenner sees herself as a female. I am not of the opinion a male has to have his meat and potatoes lopped off before one can call a man a woman.

If someone identifies themself as a member of the opposite gender, what business is it of mine to contradict him or her. It does not affect me at all.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 5, 2015 19:25:43 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Feb 5, 2015 11:02:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whatever works for her.

I could not care less. Maybe because she is part of the Kardashisn clan.

Actually I just became aware of this the other day and initially did a little shudder before moving on...I may be having a senior moment but wasn't he and his first wife into being into each other and then after his success he wanted out of the relationship ..or am I mixing it up with another individual...

I am moving on though...in a way feel bad that I had a negative reaction initially...

Our heros and folks we admire can sometimes let us down, Dezi, depending upon what is going on with them. Jenner's sports accomplishments will always remain on the books. Nothing has changed in that regard.

Back around 1971 or so, I was a front desk clerk at an airport hotel. I remember checking in Christine Jorgensen. Nice lady. Very pleasant.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 5, 2015 20:43:14 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 5, 2015 19:25:43 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Actually I just became aware of this the other day and initially did a little shudder before moving on...I may be having a senior moment but wasn't he and his first wife into being into each other and then after his success he wanted out of the relationship ..or am I mixing it up with another individual...

I am moving on though...in a way feel bad that I had a negative reaction initially...

Our heros and folks we admire can sometimes let us down, Dezi, depending upon what is going on with them. Jenner's sports accomplishments will always remain on the books. Nothing has changed in that regard.

Back around 1971 or so, I was a front desk clerk at an airport hotel. I remember checking in Christine Jorgensen. Nice lady. Very pleasant.

You make a good point Tenn..LOL, I do remember Christine ..it was a big story back then...not something most folks were aware of or into..

Regarding your point of admired folks letting us down even though their private lives and doings , as long as not illegal or hurting others beyond possible personal disapointment , it's really none of our business yet still..

I joke with friends and even the checkout people at my favorite food store..Publics..how I need the quick reading of the tabloids at the checkout to keep me up to what really is happening in the world..I have even 'borrowed " a inquirer or similar type magazine moved off after checking out and paying for groceries to finish reading a  particular interesting article or story..then putting it back in it's holder..

A while back..year possible..there was a story on John Travolta..at the time I was not aware..of his bi life style...I was surprised, a bit in shock or awe or something..to the point I got on the cell to my daughter up in Mass. and kidding mentioned in false shock of finding out something so surprising and disapointing ..yadda, yadda...She played along..actually wasn't aware either and questioned me on the validity..naturally told her got it from then horses mouth..no doubt about it..the Inqurer.. but even though it is none of my concern...none of my business and have no qualms of negativity toward gays, male or female..still...I was disappointed ..and you may have hit the nail on the head as to why..someone I admired seemed to have let me down though they really haven't done anything wrong..I do admire Travalta..his acting..roles he has played from thye goof lead on the TV series to more seriouse roles..his learning to fly just about anything with wings..liked seeing his success..his marrage..kids...In a way no matter what is said I am sure this is not the type of husband his wife expected or wanted..but still , none of my business and it's her choice..but still...
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For the younger members / readers of the forum here who might be saying .."Christine Who??


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Don't believe everything you read in grocery store rags while waiting to check out, Dezi. It amazes me how many feed off of the "celebrity rumor mill".



www.gossipcop.com/john-travolta-kelly-preston-divorce/

www.foxnews.com/.../09/.../john-travolta-speaks-out-on-gay-allegations/

[deziloooooo]

Feb 6, 2015 0:30:47 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Don't believe everything you read in grocery store rags while waiting to check out, Dezi. It amazes me how many feed off of the "celebrity rumor mill".



www.gossipcop.com/john-travolta-kelly-preston-divorce/

www.foxnews.com/.../09/.../john-travolta-speaks-out-on-gay-allegations/

Oh I know that Lassie ..my mention of getting the real low down of what is happening in the world was a josh..However...it surprises me on how many of the far fetched juicy stories turn out right on the mark...

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I often see people checking out the National Enquirer and other gossip mags at the check-out. It amazes me how many buy into that journalism and believe those stories to be true.. (not just the celebrity gossip, but the other crazy stories that they print).

The only time I ever forcced myself to read that garbage was at my dentist's office. I think his receptionist left her mags in the waiting room - when I'd much rather have scanned a National Geographic while waiting for a filling.

[Peace Of Mind]

If he's felt this way all his life it makes me sad that it took him so long. (Using the male term that he was before being true to herself).

And if my DH did it I would be pissed unless he could look like this guy below.  If my dude is going to look like a chick he better be hot!  I'm sorry but Bruce looks like crap and I don't find her attractive.

**sigh**  Atsushi's straight and looked so pretty at the same time!








If DH could also look Asian like Atsushi that works for me too but I digress. 

[Bluerobin]

The guy needs help!  His mind has been poisoned by the Kardashians and their penchant for plastic surgery. 

[MarleyKeezy78]

Now I have a ad banner of People magazine with Bruce Jenners face on it   Lol!!!

[deziloooooo]

Feb 6, 2015 0:50:48 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

I often see people checking out the National Enquirer and other gossip mags at the check-out. It amazes me how many buy into that journalism and believe those stories to be true.. (not just the celebrity gossip, but the other crazy stories that they print).

The only time I ever forcced myself to read that garbage was at my dentist's office. I think his receptionist left her mags in the waiting room - when I'd much rather have scanned a National Geographic while waiting for a filling. [img src="

Buy...Purchase..images.proboards.com/new/huh.gif" src="http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png"]  Your saying people actually buy the papers..not read in line at check out or possible step aside and finish article before putting it back..?  Wow...never considered that..actually purchasing the thing.....now that is serious stuff there...

[Shooby]

 At his age, I don't see the point. But it's his life and he can do whatever he wants to.

[Value Buy]

I remember when he was on a box of Cheerios.

It was Wheaties!

Now it looks like he/she will be on a carton of milk.........

Since cartons of milk are saved for children, maybe it should be on a carton of lactaid milk for the polder crowd, instead.

Whatever....... live and let live.

Hope he/she is happy

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I remember when he was on a box of Cheerios.

Not Cheerios - it was "Wheaties".

[NancysSummerSip]

As someone who knows a transgender personally, I don't think bringing up Jenner's age or family association is fair or helpful. Neither is a factor in his decision or knowledge that his current way of living does not jibe with what is, and likely has always been, what has been his inner reality.

In some sense, it's like telling a gay person that they've been influenced by the "wrong" people and they can change, or that they might have been "born wrong" but they can be "fixed."  In essence, you are who you are, and if the inside and outside of oneself are at odds, no amount of outside force, therapy or manipulation will change anything.

[gooddecisions]

I was surprised by this only because Jenner seemed to embrace a more masculine image during his 65 years as a man. I know it's more complicated than that, but I wouldn't have been surprised if it were Michael Jackson (RIP) or Little Richard or _____ for somebody who always embraced a more feminine image. I had never heard any sort of rumors about Bruce. I guess we'll see how this plays out on t.v.

[gooddecisions]

What's weird is before I posted the previous post, I edited out a sentence about not actually knowing anyone transgendered.

Tonight, I met up with a few acquaintances for a mutual friend's birthday. I asked one what her husband was up to tonight and she said they were separated and she thought I knew. They were married October 2013. I apologized and told her I didn't mean to stick my foot in my mouth. I had no idea and actually never met him. She told me I had, in fact met "her" at a Halloween party 4 months ago and she pulled up a picture to show me. I remember talking to her and her friend but had no idea it was her husband. She insisted I should have known that was her husband, but I guess I'm just really dense. I felt like I was getting punked, because I really had no idea.

Anyway, I'm not sure I have a point other than the fact that I find it really ironic that I deleted my first sentence in my previous post which stated I did not know anyone transgendered in real life.