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Post by tallguy on Feb 5, 2015 0:14:43 GMT -5
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So to sum up:
Man takes 600 one-dollar bills to pay his taxes a couple days before the deadline. It would take one employee a week and a half to unfold each bill to verify their legitimacy and count them. He gets arrested, his taxes apparently don't get credited on time so he will be hit with a delinquency, AND he has wasted all of the hours it took to so intricately fold each bill in the first place. So he lost all three ways.
Good thing he was able to make his anti-government, anti-tax point in doing so.
And dude? It was only $600. When your property taxes are that much EACH MONTH, then talk to me. Mine have been about that for years and I manage to write a check. Moron!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Feb 5, 2015 0:51:29 GMT -5
Sounds like someone with too much time on their hands if they can spend it folding 600 $1 bills before going to make their property tax payment.
There's holding a grudge, and then there's stupidity and wasting other people's time.
He couldn't just cut a check or go to the bank and get 6 nice crisp $100 bills? Fool!
But there's always someone trying to "make a statement".
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 5, 2015 0:55:11 GMT -5
Well, bless his little pea-pickin' heart.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 5, 2015 1:18:30 GMT -5
So I admit there is valid support for prison rape
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 5, 2015 8:20:44 GMT -5
I am trying to imagine how a dollar bill could be folded in a way that it took me 6 minutes to unfold it. I am not coming up with anything. Of course, we are talking about a municipal tax collector, so they may not be all there, mentally.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 5, 2015 8:55:36 GMT -5
Has no one eever heard of the stepping back a bit when one feels a injustice is being put on them selves....screaming out loud in frustration..taking a bat or large tree limb and beat and smash a aluminum garbage can to smithereens ..breaking into a heavy sweat from the exercise..then after all that has been done..get into the pick up and go down to the hardware store and purchase a new garbage can... Much less expensive then what it is going to cost this guy if Tallguy is correct in his post above...{ Forgot the cost of hiring a lawyer if goes that route..What do those folks get a hour..even in Wichita city...
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Post by Opti on Feb 5, 2015 8:57:08 GMT -5
Sounds like someone with too much time on their hands if they can spend it folding 600 $1 bills before going to make their property tax payment.
There's holding a grudge, and then there's stupidity and wasting other people's time.
He couldn't just cut a check or go to the bank and get 6 nice crisp $100 bills? Fool!
But there's always someone trying to "make a statement". My guess is he spent significant time figuring out a way to fold the bills so it took a long time to unfold them. He probably also planned on delivering them in time by the calendar but so they could not be unfolded in time by one person by the deadline.
I think some people get very stupid about taxes, forgetting that these payment demonstrations won't make a point that changes anything and just makes the people who receive them think you are an ass. These people who receive the payments don't make the tax laws so making them angry can't change anything. The most likely result of these displays is towns writing new laws to make it illegal to pay in such a manner to require too much time to count a payment.
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Post by mroped on Feb 5, 2015 9:40:01 GMT -5
Folding them is easy! What you do with it after is tricky If you put them in water and then dry them, you'll have a hell of a time unfolding. but that ofcourse...is just a big waste of time. If you know the gov works so slow wouldn't be a better made point showing them how is done faster?
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Post by 973beachbum on Feb 5, 2015 12:04:10 GMT -5
Sounds like someone with too much time on their hands if they can spend it folding 600 $1 bills before going to make their property tax payment.
There's holding a grudge, and then there's stupidity and wasting other people's time.
He couldn't just cut a check or go to the bank and get 6 nice crisp $100 bills? Fool!
But there's always someone trying to "make a statement". My guess is he spent significant time figuring out a way to fold the bills so it took a long time to unfold them. He probably also planned on delivering them in time by the calendar but so they could not be unfolded in time by one person by the deadline.
I think some people get very stupid about taxes, forgetting that these payment demonstrations won't make a point that changes anything and just makes the people who receive them think you are an ass. These people who receive the payments don't make the tax laws so making them angry can't change anything. The most likely result of these displays is towns writing new laws to make it illegal to pay in such a manner to require too much time to count a payment.
Have you ever lived someplace where they would have even tried to unfold them? I know ever town I have ever lived in would have told him to get out and come back when his money was unfolded so it could be counted just like everyone else's. And for the record we are getting dangerously close to paying $600 a month in taxes too.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 14:06:29 GMT -5
unfortunately, i think the guy was within his rights to do what he did.
one day i was riding the bus with some friends in San Francisco. the fare was 85 cents. my buddy stuck a dollar in the machine and jammed it, and took his seat. the driver got up and confronted him. here is how the exchange went:
driver: "can't you see that it says to use proper change?" buddy: "no, it says to PLEASE use proper change. that is because currency is legal tender, and you have to accept it. i didn't have proper change, but i had fare. so PLEASE deal with it". driver: curses something under his breath, goes and sits down, and unjams the machine with a little tool he has in his seat pocket.
_end of parable_
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 5, 2015 14:12:49 GMT -5
unfortunately, i think the guy was within his rights to do what he did. one day i was riding the bus with some friends in San Francisco. the fare was 85 cents. my buddy stuck a dollar in the machine and jammed it, and took his seat. the driver got up and confronted him. here is how the exchange went: driver: "can't you see that it says to use proper change?" buddy: "no, it says to PLEASE use proper change. that is because currency is legal tender, and you have to accept it. i didn't have proper change, but i had fare. so PLEASE deal with it". driver: curses something under his breath, goes and sits down, and unjams the machine with a little tool he has in his seat pocket. _end of parable_ Shitty parable.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 14:22:01 GMT -5
unfortunately, i think the guy was within his rights to do what he did. one day i was riding the bus with some friends in San Francisco. the fare was 85 cents. my buddy stuck a dollar in the machine and jammed it, and took his seat. the driver got up and confronted him. here is how the exchange went: driver: "can't you see that it says to use proper change?" buddy: "no, it says to PLEASE use proper change. that is because currency is legal tender, and you have to accept it. i didn't have proper change, but i had fare. so PLEASE deal with it". driver: curses something under his breath, goes and sits down, and unjams the machine with a little tool he has in his seat pocket. _end of parable_ Shitty parable. i love you too, arch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 18:41:31 GMT -5
unfortunately, i think the guy was within his rights to do what he did. one day i was riding the bus with some friends in San Francisco. the fare was 85 cents. my buddy stuck a dollar in the machine and jammed it, and took his seat. the driver got up and confronted him. here is how the exchange went: driver: "can't you see that it says to use proper change?" buddy: "no, it says to PLEASE use proper change. that is because currency is legal tender, and you have to accept it. i didn't have proper change, but i had fare. so PLEASE deal with it". driver: curses something under his breath, goes and sits down, and unjams the machine with a little tool he has in his seat pocket. _end of parable_ Your buddy was wrong.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 19:47:03 GMT -5
unfortunately, i think the guy was within his rights to do what he did. one day i was riding the bus with some friends in San Francisco. the fare was 85 cents. my buddy stuck a dollar in the machine and jammed it, and took his seat. the driver got up and confronted him. here is how the exchange went: driver: "can't you see that it says to use proper change?" buddy: "no, it says to PLEASE use proper change. that is because currency is legal tender, and you have to accept it. i didn't have proper change, but i had fare. so PLEASE deal with it". driver: curses something under his breath, goes and sits down, and unjams the machine with a little tool he has in his seat pocket. _end of parable_ Your buddy was wrong. no, he wasn't actually. i looked into it after the fact, and it is precisely correct. city bus drivers HAVE to take paper money. or at least they did in 1989.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 19:47:59 GMT -5
it depends on how much the point is worth to you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 20:21:30 GMT -5
no, he wasn't actually. i looked into it after the fact, and it is precisely correct. city bus drivers HAVE to take paper money. or at least they did in 1989. My apologies. In my prior experience, people who have made that claim have been wrong.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 20:24:04 GMT -5
no, he wasn't actually. i looked into it after the fact, and it is precisely correct. city bus drivers HAVE to take paper money. or at least they did in 1989. My apologies. In my prior experience, people who have made that claim have been wrong. interesting. the only exception in San Francisco at the time was for automated toll stations, for obvious reasons. but, like i say, that was 26 years ago, so lord only knows what the deal is now. edit: then again, we are talking San Francisco, here. it would not surprise me if this didn't work in Nashville.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 5, 2015 20:38:11 GMT -5
I think he is within his rights too. Stupid, certainly, but within his rights. All he has to do is go back each day for a week and a half, watch the lone employee assigned take six minutes to unfold each bill, all day long, have them give him a receipt for $75 dollars at the end of each day, and then go back again until he is paid up. Of course, he will have to spend another evening folding up some more bills to pay the late charge, but you know he's got a lot of time on his hands anyway. Go for it, dude!
(Somebody should tell him though that getting arrested was poor form. He's probably used to it though. Can't be his first time.)
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