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Post by billisonboard on Feb 4, 2015 17:54:13 GMT -5
Mecca and Medina need to become the new Hiroshima and Nagasaki- ... State Shinto of Imperial Japan before it-- and equally deserving of extermination. ... Paul, I am unable to find the connection between State Shinto and either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Would you please provide it.
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Post by Jaguar on Feb 5, 2015 4:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 5, 2015 8:47:56 GMT -5
Sug...it's just not Jordan but the whole Arab world it seems who feel the same way..though I understand that there are thousands of supporters of ISIL posting on social media sites their happiness over the death of the young Jordanian pilot..Hopefully they may number in the thousands but the posting and support against this sick group number in the millions...
Hopefully the Jordanians will not get sidetracked and make more out of it then it is, the possibility of the Jordanian Government possible knowing that the pilot had been already murdered as they were asking for proof he was alive..I go along with the explanation on some of the links that they may not have known positively that he had been murdered and didn't want to play into ISIL hands in case he wasn't and he shows up saying you abandoned me after the government claim he had been already murdered..These type of misunderstandings are going to pop up and a united front is needed..demanded in fact. This is going to be a long war to rid our selves of these murderers...there are going to be set backs , more of these atrocities..It behooves us, I believe to let the professionals do their thing in fighting this war..making alliences and cooperating among them selves and as I have said earlier..put aside their differences and unite on this one cause..
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 5, 2015 9:23:23 GMT -5
Time to insert some American Snipers. Just had to throw that in.
I think being sniped is too easy- I think 'Jihad John' or whatever needs to be impaled and put up on a stake. No quarter- these fuckers aren't enemy combatants fighting for some nation- they are an insane bunch of criminals that need to be put down like rabid animals.
"Just had to throw that in." Nope. This is what it takes to do the job properly. Less collateral damage. Some people here still do not realize war is not effortless. It is dehumanizing in nature. Sometimes the good guys have to resort to the bad guy's techniques in order to survive the onslaught. It becomes a matter of survival. And for the record, I consider beheading of all people to be murder, not an execution, when it is imposed by a band of misfits. The beheading/murder comment was in the original quote box from EVT that is now blank. I dislike this removal feature, because sometimes other posters lose the actual dialogue being discussed unless they go back and read other messages.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 14:36:05 GMT -5
Mecca and Medina need to become the new Hiroshima and Nagasaki- ... State Shinto of Imperial Japan before it-- and equally deserving of extermination. ... Paul, I am unable to find the connection between State Shinto and either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Would you please provide it. No. Common knowledge about the history of World War II doesn't require a link. That's like asking me to provide a link that we were at war with Imperial Japan. I can't do everyone's freshmen year of high school homework.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 14:36:38 GMT -5
We don't like snipers, and we can't nuke them. I guess we should surrender to them?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 5, 2015 15:33:02 GMT -5
Paul, I am unable to find the connection between State Shinto and either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Would you please provide it. No. Common knowledge about the history of World War II doesn't require a link. That's like asking me to provide a link that we were at war with Imperial Japan. I can't do everyone's freshmen year of high school homework. You can not provide such a link because there is no connection between State Shinto and either of those cities. They were not targeted on that basis. They were targeted because they were Japanese cities. If we were at war with Saudi Arabia, it would make sense that we attack two Saudi Arabian cities. However, we aren't at war with Saudi Arabia so attacking their cities is why your first post was absurd.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 5, 2015 15:35:07 GMT -5
... we can't nuke them. ... Who are you proposing we nuke? I saw your suggestion we nuke two Saudi Arabian cities. Are the Saudi Arabians who we should nuke?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 15:50:20 GMT -5
Yes. Muslim holy sites. 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 15:52:24 GMT -5
No. Common knowledge about the history of World War II doesn't require a link. That's like asking me to provide a link that we were at war with Imperial Japan. I can't do everyone's freshmen year of high school homework. You can not provide such a link because there is no connection between State Shinto and either of those cities. They were not targeted on that basis. They were targeted because they were Japanese cities. If we were at war with Saudi Arabia, it would make sense that we attack two Saudi Arabian cities. However, we aren't at war with Saudi Arabia so attacking their cities is why your first post was absurd. Actually, a key requirement for the surrender of Japan was that the emperor, whom they regarded as "god", step down. We promised that if ALL the conditions were not met, we would not merely destroy those two cities, but all of Japan, laying waste to the entire territory of Japan.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 15:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 5, 2015 15:56:52 GMT -5
... laying waste to the entire territory of Japan.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 5, 2015 15:59:24 GMT -5
I'm simply proposing that we put muslims in charge of world peace. If any muslim anywhere harms a hair on the head of anyone in the name of islam, Mecca will disappear under a radioactive cloud. Then we will turn our attention back to our muslim guarantors of world peace and ask them if they would like to keep Medina. My guess is they won't, because their quasi-religious geopolitical ideology is fundamentally defective and the results of centuries of inbred insanity-- but I think we'll probably have their attention after Medina goes away. The whole idea is to make world peace a muslim imperative, and responsibility. My guess is they'll police their own pretty well after Mecca and Medina are gone. Who knows? Maybe they're more committed than the adherents of State Shinto, and we will have to kill them all. As long as we remain on offense, and the conflict remains THEIR problem, and not the rest of the world's problem- I don't give a fuck. Every adult knows that you can make the self control of a petulant child YOUR problem by tolerating them, or make it THEIR problem. I'm proposing we stop coddling the islamonazi cockroaches, and start stamping them out.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 5, 2015 17:03:02 GMT -5
... If any muslim anywhere harms a hair on the head of anyone in the name of islam, Mecca will disappear under a radioactive cloud. ... Do you really want to put that much power in the hands of some 17 year old nut case? Adopt a religion, kill someone - announce it was in the name of Islam, and get the United States to launch a nuclear attack.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 5, 2015 17:26:00 GMT -5
We got a lot of bombin' to do.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 5, 2015 17:30:58 GMT -5
I'm simply proposing that we put muslims in charge of world peace. If any muslim anywhere harms a hair on the head of anyone in the name of islam, Mecca will disappear under a radioactive cloud. Easy fix for Muslims; kill non-muslims in the name of Cheez Whiz. Mecca and Medina survive.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 5, 2015 21:00:59 GMT -5
I have an idea- let's take all the Christians that want to go to war against Islam, and all of the Muslims that want to go to war with Christianity and drop their asses on an island somewhere and arm them. Have at it- leave the rest of us out of it.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 6, 2015 7:36:57 GMT -5
Hey, I would be wiling to let them all kill each other. They've been doing it for centuries. Trouble is, they want to spread their shit into my backyard.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 6, 2015 8:28:22 GMT -5
This article explains why / possibility of why ISIL has a special enmity against Jordan and its royal leadership....also why Jordan has to be careful as it has both progressive folks as well as very conservatives in it's midst as subjects...also explains possible barbaric murder of the young captured Jordanian pilot.. www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/02/isil-hated-moaz-al-kassasbeh-air-strikes-work-jordan-150205085308300.html====================================================== "Aircrews have long feared capture, more than other combatants. Beatings, even lynchings, have occurred at the hands of civilian populations who have impotently suffered the horror of bombing raids. The immolation of the Jordanian air force pilot, Moaz al-Kassasbeh, set as it was among the supposed ruins of a raid, was meant to mirror this suffering. A veneer of legitimacy was even sought from the Quran: "And if you punish [an enemy, O believers] punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed."Yet, what the execution really highlighted, apart from ISIL's utter barbarity, was its impotence to counter the coalition's airpower and the particular enmity they hold towards Jordan - a monarchical state that stands against their supposed "caliphate".===================================The above is true..IN WW2 it was not uncommon for allied crewman who were captured when bailing out of falling bombers/fighters , to be beaten by civiliens and lynched , killed....blamed for bomb damage and deaths..Some of those who were identified in investigations after the war...we , allies, had investigators who were doing that..besides going after war crime people, they also looked for the perps of those crimes and these people when caught, many where, were imprisoned or executed..
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 17:59:29 GMT -5
Interesting news from ISIS: Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalBEIRUT (AP) — Islamic State extremists claimed that an American woman held hostage by the group was killed Friday in a Jordanian airstrike in northern Syria, but the government of Jordan dismissed the statement as "criminal propaganda" and the U.S. said it had not seen any evidence to corroborate the report. The statement said no Islamic State militants were killed in the airstrikes, raising further questions about the veracity of the claim. Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalTo recap; no one else but the American woman was killed during the hour long air strike. Me thinks the claim stinks.
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Post by Jaguar on Feb 6, 2015 18:01:57 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get news now that she was murdered in some hellish fashion.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 6, 2015 18:04:13 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get news now that she was murdered in some hellish fashion. It will be a little bit difficult for Islamic State to release a video.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 18:04:34 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get news now that she was murdered in some hellish fashion. Well how can she have been murdered when the official ISIS statement is that she was killed during the bombing!
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Post by Jaguar on Feb 6, 2015 18:07:41 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get news now that she was murdered in some hellish fashion. Well how can she have been murdered when the official ISIS statement is that she was killed during the bombing! Tenn don't be logical, ISIS is anything but logical.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 18:08:03 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get news now that she was murdered in some hellish fashion. It will be a little bit difficult for Islamic State to release a video. Maybe the Jordanians had their own Major Kong wearing a head-cam and riding the bomb that hit the building where the American woman was hidden.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:55:29 GMT -5
I have an idea- let's take all the Christians that want to go to war against Islam, and all of the Muslims that want to go to war with Christianity and drop their asses on an island somewhere and arm them. Have at it- leave the rest of us out of it. Yah, that's logical because they only want to go to war with Christians.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 6, 2015 20:17:33 GMT -5
Interesting news from ISIS: Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalBEIRUT (AP) — Islamic State extremists claimed that an American woman held hostage by the group was killed Friday in a Jordanian airstrike in northern Syria, but the government of Jordan dismissed the statement as "criminal propaganda" and the U.S. said it had not seen any evidence to corroborate the report. The statement said no Islamic State militants were killed in the airstrikes, raising further questions about the veracity of the claim. Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalTo recap; no one else but the American woman was killed during the hour long air strike. Me thinks the claim stinks. Possible they , ISIL, may have executed the woman in retaliation but are blaming the death on Jordens' bombings.... where as before they were using the brutal murders of these prisoners as a object lesson..what ever they thought that was..now they just may be leery of that...possible seeing the repercussions and not happy with what is happening, not wanting to call attention or retribution on to them selves..Possible seeing how the reaction and forming of alliances who's goals are their, ISIL..ISIS destruction, not what they wanted ...Wouldn't make semne to execute the American except possible someone lost control after Jordan executed the two prisoners...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 20:24:25 GMT -5
Interesting news from ISIS: Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalBEIRUT (AP) — Islamic State extremists claimed that an American woman held hostage by the group was killed Friday in a Jordanian airstrike in northern Syria, but the government of Jordan dismissed the statement as "criminal propaganda" and the U.S. said it had not seen any evidence to corroborate the report. The statement said no Islamic State militants were killed in the airstrikes, raising further questions about the veracity of the claim. Islamic State says airstrike killed US hostage, US skepticalTo recap; no one else but the American woman was killed during the hour long air strike. Me thinks the claim stinks. Possible they , ISIL, may have executed the woman in retaliation but are blaming the death on Jordens' bombings.... where as before they were using the brutal murders of these prisoners as a object lesson..what ever they thought that was..now they just may be leery of that...possible seeing the repercussions and not happy with what is happening, not wanting to call attention or retribution on to them selves..Possible seeing how the reaction and forming of alliances who's goals are their, ISIL..ISIS destruction, not what they wanted ...Wouldn't make semne to execute the American except possible someone lost control after Jordan executed the two prisoners... The highlighted is exactly my thought. I think she has probably been dead for some time. Blaming her death on the Jordan bombing is just to try to put a wedge between the U.S. and Jordan. It won't work.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 6, 2015 20:29:43 GMT -5
No, it won't work. In fact, it's going to do the opposite, IMO. By killing their own and turning Jordan against them they've taken another step toward alienating the other countries in the Middle East. This isn't going to work well for them. I expect to see more countries in that region joining Jordan.
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