Fish scrap

[tloonya]

I am looking for fresh/frozen pieces of fish. Like when they clean the fish - they cut
some parts and those parts can be used by desperate cooks on a budget.

How do I google such a product? So far nothing coming up not even close.
Thanks

[mroped]

I don't think you need to google that. 
You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead.
Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that.
Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that.

[Deleted]

This was 30 years ago but my Ex and I lived near a good deli that sold lox (smoked salmon). Husband found that they just threw away the skin after they'd scraped off the meat and sold it. He also found out that the people at the Japanese grocery store he frequented LOVED salmon skin- I think they fry it. So, any time he went to the Japanese grocery, he'd get salmon skins from the deli first and bring them with him.

So, a deli may be willing to give you the smoked salmon skins.

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 9:31:18 GMT -5 mroped said:

I don't think you need to google that. 
You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead.
Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that.
Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that.

 not borshch. It is calle OOHA (UHA) - fish soup.
I do not need heads (I have them for soup from my vendor), I need those bellies pieces etc...but thanks anyway.
And no, fishing friends do not fish enough for me to get what I need.

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 9:37:00 GMT -5 @athena53 said:

This was 30 years ago but my Ex and I lived near a good deli that sold lox (smoked salmon). Husband found that they just threw away the skin after they'd scraped off the meat and sold it. He also found out that the people at the Japanese grocery store he frequented LOVED salmon skin- I think they fry it. So, any time he went to the Japanese grocery, he'd get salmon skins from the deli first and bring them with him.

So, a deli may be willing to give you the smoked salmon skins.

I need fresh/frozen. Not smoked. I have smoked pieces. This is why I am curious how come I can't find fresh.
And I do not need skin. I need pieces.

[NancysSummerSip]

I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing.

Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap.

For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map:

www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washington

[Wisconsin Beth]

So you're looking for the guts?  Or the bits of fish flesh (for lack of a better word) that on the underbelly areas after they've gutted the fish?  Either way, isn't that the stuff they use for bait for like crab fishing? 

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 10:10:39 GMT -5 NancysSummerSip said:

I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing.

Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap.

For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map:

www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washington

Which grocery store? Supermarket? Local fish market as I know it sell whole fish.
Dock is closed for public now, this is why it became a problem. Going from Philly to Washington for scrap fish is...silly.

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 10:12:02 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

So you're looking for the guts?  Or the bits of fish flesh (for lack of a better word) that on the underbelly areas after they've gutted the fish?  Either way, isn't that the stuff they use for bait for like crab fishing? 

Yeah. So should I google 'crab fishing bait'? Thanks

[NancysSummerSip]

Jan 22, 2015 10:25:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Jan 22, 2015 10:10:39 GMT -5 NancysSummerSip said:

I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing.

Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap.

For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map:

www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washington

Which grocery store? Supermarket? Local fish market as I know it sell whole fish.
Dock is closed for public now, this is why it became a problem. Going from Philly to Washington for scrap fish is...silly.

Any supermarket is fine, as long as their seafood department is of a pretty good size. And the trip from Philly to DC is less than three hours. Why is that silly? You go to D.C. and do other stuff besides hunt for fish bits.

Like this place: Eastern Market. But go when they have the outdoor farmers market, if you can. I loved this place. And it was a heckuva walk from the train station. I plan to do it again this year, when I visit.

www.easternmarket-dc.org/

[tloonya]

Guys! All I was asking how to word my google search! Have mercy!

[Tennesseer]

Google 'tapioca', aka fish eyes and glue.  That is your starting point.

[Bob Ross]

Google "chum".

Is that what you need this for?  Chumming for sharks?

In that case I'm all for it.  Sharks are bastards.

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 11:06:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Google 'tapioca', aka fish eyes and glue.  That is your starting point.

tapioca pudding

[tloonya]

Jan 22, 2015 11:06:56 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Google "chum".

Is that what you need this for?  Chumming for sharks?

In that case I'm all for it.  Sharks are bastards.

chum1


/CHəm/

informal


noun

noun: chum; plural noun: chums



1.



a close friend.


synonyms: friend; More


companion, intimate;

playmate, classmate, schoolmate, workmate;

informalpal, sidekick, crony, main man, mate, buddy, bud, amigo, compadre, homeboy, homegirl, homie, dawg;

informalpeeps

"he's having lunch with a few of his old army chums"



antonyms: enemy, stranger


•

a form of address expressing familiarity or friendliness.

"it's your own fault, chum"




verb

verb: chum; 3rd person present: chums; past tense: chummed; past participle: chummed; gerund or present participle: chumming



1.



be friendly to or form a friendship with someone.

"they started chumming around in high school"

[Bob Ross]

3. chum  noun
Definition of CHUM
: animal or vegetable matter (as chopped fish or corn) thrown overboard to attract fish

[Wisconsin Beth]

Jan 22, 2015 11:14:36 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

3. chum  noun
Definition of CHUM
: animal or vegetable matter (as chopped fish or corn) thrown overboard to attract fish

It's been used as a verb "chumming" and "chum up the water" by those trying to attract sharks to their vicinity. 

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 9:31:18 GMT -5 mroped said:

I don't think you need to google that. 
You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead.
Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that.
Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that.

You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever.

[mroped]

Jan 22, 2015 18:56:40 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jan 22, 2015 9:31:18 GMT -5 mroped said:

I don't think you need to google that. 
You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead.
Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that.
Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that.

You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever.

Depends who makes it! 
If you go anywhere along the Danube from Moswerbau Austria to Sulina  Romania and then along the Black Sea coast to the Aral Sea, in every village it is guaranteed to find a different recipe.
Fish heads -carp heads specifically- are used in the recipe in Ismail-Ukraine and Mahmudia-Romania.
Sturgeon parts are used in the rest of the Delta and so on. 

Everybody calls is something different but is all fish sour soup.

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 19:22:01 GMT -5 mroped said:

Jan 22, 2015 18:56:40 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever.

Depends who makes it! 
If you go anywhere along the Danube from Moswerbau Austria to Sulina  Romania and then along the Black Sea coast to the Aral Sea, in every village it is guaranteed to find a different recipe.
Fish heads -carp heads specifically- are used in the recipe in Ismail-Ukraine and Mahmudia-Romania.
Sturgeon parts are used in the rest of the Delta and so on. 

Everybody calls is something different but is all fish sour soup.

Then it's not borscht. You're talking about Uha.

[weltschmerz]

It's kind of like saying you make cream of chicken soup with fish heads, then claiming that everyone calls it something different.

You don't put fish heads in borscht.  Ever.

[mroped]

If you are talking about the traditional russian " borsh- borscht" than yes, it is not! Is just fish soup.
However, in parts of Romania and southern Ukraine- tree districts(uezd) in the south at the Black Sea, they call all sour soups borsh!

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 19:40:15 GMT -5 mroped said:

If you are talking about the traditional russian " borsh- borscht" than yes, it is not! Is just fish soup.
However, in parts of Romania and southern Ukraine- tree districts(uezd) in the south at the Black Sea, they call all sour soups borsh!

My dad is from the south of the Black Sea. He called borscht, borscht, and uha, uha.

One of these things is not like the other.

[weltschmerz]

Perhaps you're thinking of shchavel borscht? You don't put fish heads in that, either.

[mroped]

I lived for a couple years in the Danube's Delta and I was dealing with people from Ismail. Kahul, Tulcea, Galati and was often invited to their Holiday's feasts in the summer. 
Typicaly we would go in the water, set the nets while somebody was starting boiling the rest: vegetables and such. We would bring the catch back to shore, clean it and throw it in the boil, heads and all.

I was explained that this was actually the traditional way of the fisherman that fled the russian empire durring Peter the Great's reign and that's the way they were honoring their ancestors.
I don't know if they lied or made fun of me but since it happened in a few different places I'd have to think it is true.

And they all called it "borsh"!

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 20:57:53 GMT -5 mroped said:

I lived for a couple years in the Danube's Delta and I was dealing with people from Ismail. Kahul, Tulcea, Galati and was often invited to their Holiday's feasts in the summer. 
Typicaly we would go in the water, set the nets while somebody was starting boiling the rest: vegetables and such. We would bring the catch back to shore, clean it and throw it in the boil, heads and all.

I was explained that this was actually the traditional way of the fisherman that fled the russian empire durring Peter the Great's reign and that's the way they were honoring their ancestors.
I don't know if they lied or made fun of me but since it happened in a few different places I'd have to think it is true.

And they all called it "borsh"!

In that case, I'm sure you could scrounge up some recipes on the internet of borscht using fish heads.

[mroped]

Should I understand that you are the type of person that says that " if is not in the cooking books doesn't exist"?  Does it have to be a french cuisine too?

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 21:42:21 GMT -5 mroped said:

Should I understand that you are the type of person that says that " if is not in the cooking books doesn't exist"?  Does it have to be a french cuisine too?

Nope. Borscht isn't French cuisine.

[mroped]

 OMG! Don't tell that to a french man/woman!

they think they invented all recipes!

[weltschmerz]

Jan 22, 2015 22:59:50 GMT -5 mroped said:

 OMG! Don't tell that to a french man/woman!

they think they invented all recipes!

If you say so.