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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 9:12:40 GMT -5
I am looking for fresh/frozen pieces of fish. Like when they clean the fish - they cut some parts and those parts can be used by desperate cooks on a budget.
How do I google such a product? So far nothing coming up not even close. Thanks
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 9:31:18 GMT -5
I don't think you need to google that. You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead. Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that. Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 9:37:00 GMT -5
This was 30 years ago but my Ex and I lived near a good deli that sold lox (smoked salmon). Husband found that they just threw away the skin after they'd scraped off the meat and sold it. He also found out that the people at the Japanese grocery store he frequented LOVED salmon skin- I think they fry it. So, any time he went to the Japanese grocery, he'd get salmon skins from the deli first and bring them with him.
So, a deli may be willing to give you the smoked salmon skins.
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 10:07:42 GMT -5
I don't think you need to google that. You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead. Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that. Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that. not borshch. It is calle OOHA (UHA) - fish soup. I do not need heads (I have them for soup from my vendor), I need those bellies pieces etc...but thanks anyway. And no, fishing friends do not fish enough for me to get what I need.
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 10:09:51 GMT -5
This was 30 years ago but my Ex and I lived near a good deli that sold lox (smoked salmon). Husband found that they just threw away the skin after they'd scraped off the meat and sold it. He also found out that the people at the Japanese grocery store he frequented LOVED salmon skin- I think they fry it. So, any time he went to the Japanese grocery, he'd get salmon skins from the deli first and bring them with him.
So, a deli may be willing to give you the smoked salmon skins. I need fresh/frozen. Not smoked. I have smoked pieces. This is why I am curious how come I can't find fresh. And I do not need skin. I need pieces.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 22, 2015 10:10:39 GMT -5
I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing. Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap. For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map: www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washington
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2015 10:12:02 GMT -5
So you're looking for the guts? Or the bits of fish flesh (for lack of a better word) that on the underbelly areas after they've gutted the fish? Either way, isn't that the stuff they use for bait for like crab fishing?
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 10:25:17 GMT -5
I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing. Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap. For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map: www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washingtonWhich grocery store? Supermarket? Local fish market as I know it sell whole fish. Dock is closed for public now, this is why it became a problem. Going from Philly to Washington for scrap fish is...silly.
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 10:26:05 GMT -5
So you're looking for the guts? Or the bits of fish flesh (for lack of a better word) that on the underbelly areas after they've gutted the fish? Either way, isn't that the stuff they use for bait for like crab fishing? Yeah. So should I google 'crab fishing bait'? Thanks
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 22, 2015 10:29:14 GMT -5
I'd ask your local grocery store. They do break down whole fish and the "scrap", so they might let you have it if you ask ahead. Local fish markets do the same thing. Not sure if a trip to the nearest fishing dock is possible, but if so, go and spend some time and make friends with a fisherman or two. They might sell you fish bits pretty cheap. For you folks who can get there, one of my favorite places for seafood is the Main Avenue Fish Market in Washington, D.C. Literally right on the water and lots of seafood you won't find anywhere else. I don't favor Yelp reviews, but this one does have a map: www.yelp.com/biz/maine-avenue-fish-market-washingtonWhich grocery store? Supermarket? Local fish market as I know it sell whole fish. Dock is closed for public now, this is why it became a problem. Going from Philly to Washington for scrap fish is...silly. Any supermarket is fine, as long as their seafood department is of a pretty good size. And the trip from Philly to DC is less than three hours. Why is that silly? You go to D.C. and do other stuff besides hunt for fish bits. Like this place: Eastern Market. But go when they have the outdoor farmers market, if you can. I loved this place. And it was a heckuva walk from the train station. I plan to do it again this year, when I visit. www.easternmarket-dc.org/
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 11:02:42 GMT -5
Guys! All I was asking how to word my google search! Have mercy!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 22, 2015 11:06:07 GMT -5
Google 'tapioca', aka fish eyes and glue. That is your starting point.
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Post by Bob Ross on Jan 22, 2015 11:06:56 GMT -5
Google "chum".
Is that what you need this for? Chumming for sharks?
In that case I'm all for it. Sharks are bastards.
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 11:11:22 GMT -5
Google 'tapioca', aka fish eyes and glue. That is your starting point. tapioca pudding
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Post by tloonya on Jan 22, 2015 11:12:34 GMT -5
Google "chum".
Is that what you need this for? Chumming for sharks?
In that case I'm all for it. Sharks are bastards. chum1 /CHəm/ informal noun noun: chum; plural noun: chums 1. a close friend. synonyms: friend; More companion, intimate; playmate, classmate, schoolmate, workmate; informalpal, sidekick, crony, main man, mate, buddy, bud, amigo, compadre, homeboy, homegirl, homie, dawg; informalpeeps "he's having lunch with a few of his old army chums" antonyms: enemy, stranger • a form of address expressing familiarity or friendliness. "it's your own fault, chum" verb verb: chum; 3rd person present: chums; past tense: chummed; past participle: chummed; gerund or present participle: chumming 1. be friendly to or form a friendship with someone. "they started chumming around in high school"
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Post by Bob Ross on Jan 22, 2015 11:14:36 GMT -5
3. chum noun Definition of CHUM : animal or vegetable matter (as chopped fish or corn) thrown overboard to attract fish
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2015 11:49:28 GMT -5
3. chum noun Definition of CHUM : animal or vegetable matter (as chopped fish or corn) thrown overboard to attract fish It's been used as a verb "chumming" and "chum up the water" by those trying to attract sharks to their vicinity.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 18:56:40 GMT -5
I don't think you need to google that. You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead. Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that. Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that. You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever.
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 19:22:01 GMT -5
I don't think you need to google that. You can simply go to the market at the fish section and ask the vendors what do they do with the heads and keep following that lead. Fish heads make a delicious borscht and I'd take that over some grilled salmon or something like that. Do you have any friends that like fishing? Maybe they can provide you with that. You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever. Depends who makes it! If you go anywhere along the Danube from Moswerbau Austria to Sulina Romania and then along the Black Sea coast to the Aral Sea, in every village it is guaranteed to find a different recipe. Fish heads -carp heads specifically- are used in the recipe in Ismail-Ukraine and Mahmudia-Romania. Sturgeon parts are used in the rest of the Delta and so on. Everybody calls is something different but is all fish sour soup.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 19:28:19 GMT -5
You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever. Depends who makes it! If you go anywhere along the Danube from Moswerbau Austria to Sulina Romania and then along the Black Sea coast to the Aral Sea, in every village it is guaranteed to find a different recipe. Fish heads -carp heads specifically- are used in the recipe in Ismail-Ukraine and Mahmudia-Romania. Sturgeon parts are used in the rest of the Delta and so on. Everybody calls is something different but is all fish sour soup. Then it's not borscht. You're talking about Uha.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 19:30:41 GMT -5
It's kind of like saying you make cream of chicken soup with fish heads, then claiming that everyone calls it something different. You don't put fish heads in borscht. Ever.
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 19:40:15 GMT -5
If you are talking about the traditional russian " borsh- borscht" than yes, it is not! Is just fish soup. However, in parts of Romania and southern Ukraine- tree districts(uezd) in the south at the Black Sea, they call all sour soups borsh!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 19:56:54 GMT -5
If you are talking about the traditional russian " borsh- borscht" than yes, it is not! Is just fish soup. However, in parts of Romania and southern Ukraine- tree districts(uezd) in the south at the Black Sea, they call all sour soups borsh! My dad is from the south of the Black Sea. He called borscht, borscht, and uha, uha. One of these things is not like the other.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 19:58:53 GMT -5
Perhaps you're thinking of shchavel borscht? You don't put fish heads in that, either.
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 20:57:53 GMT -5
I lived for a couple years in the Danube's Delta and I was dealing with people from Ismail. Kahul, Tulcea, Galati and was often invited to their Holiday's feasts in the summer. Typicaly we would go in the water, set the nets while somebody was starting boiling the rest: vegetables and such. We would bring the catch back to shore, clean it and throw it in the boil, heads and all. I was explained that this was actually the traditional way of the fisherman that fled the russian empire durring Peter the Great's reign and that's the way they were honoring their ancestors. I don't know if they lied or made fun of me but since it happened in a few different places I'd have to think it is true. And they all called it "borsh"!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 21:36:46 GMT -5
I lived for a couple years in the Danube's Delta and I was dealing with people from Ismail. Kahul, Tulcea, Galati and was often invited to their Holiday's feasts in the summer. Typicaly we would go in the water, set the nets while somebody was starting boiling the rest: vegetables and such. We would bring the catch back to shore, clean it and throw it in the boil, heads and all. I was explained that this was actually the traditional way of the fisherman that fled the russian empire durring Peter the Great's reign and that's the way they were honoring their ancestors. I don't know if they lied or made fun of me but since it happened in a few different places I'd have to think it is true. And they all called it "borsh"! In that case, I'm sure you could scrounge up some recipes on the internet of borscht using fish heads.
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 21:42:21 GMT -5
Should I understand that you are the type of person that says that " if is not in the cooking books doesn't exist"? Does it have to be a french cuisine too?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 22:12:59 GMT -5
Should I understand that you are the type of person that says that " if is not in the cooking books doesn't exist"? Does it have to be a french cuisine too? Nope. Borscht isn't French cuisine.
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Post by mroped on Jan 22, 2015 22:59:50 GMT -5
OMG! Don't tell that to a french man/woman! they think they invented all recipes!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 22, 2015 23:01:49 GMT -5
OMG! Don't tell that to a french man/woman! they think they invented all recipes! If you say so.
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