3 shot at suburban Kansas City gun shop

[kent]

Wanted to be the first to post this on behalf of the anti-gun crowd so they can say. "See, I keep telling you we need to ban firearms."

www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/3-shot-at-suburban-kansas-city-gun-shop-1-shot-nearby/ar-AA7YLXS

SHAWNEE, Kan. — Emergency responders say three people were shot and wounded at a suburban Kansas City gun shop and a fourth person was wounded at a nearby location.

Johnson County MED-ACT spokeswoman Angela Fera says crews were called around 2:15 p.m. Friday to a store called She's A Pistol in Shawnee, Kansas. Crews transported three people who sustained critical gunshot wounds. Fera says a fourth person at the gun shop sustained minor injuries from an assault.

Fera says crews were called to a second scene more than 1 mile away around 3 p.m. The injuries of the fourth shooting victim weren't considered life-threatening.

She said the shootings are believed to be connected. She didn't immediately have the ages or genders of the victims.

Police didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

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SHAWNEE, Kan. —

A gun shop owner died from gunshot wounds Friday after a botched robbery that left three suspects wounded, police said. www.wpxi.com/ap/ap/us/3-shot-at-suburban-kansas-city-gun-shop-1-shot-nea/njkKp/

If I had been trained there, I am thinking I might be a little nervous about now concerning those "self-defense techniques".

[pappyjohn99]

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

[EVT1]

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

Yep- and all the training, gun laws, lack of gun laws isn't going to stop it- except in France of course since their people were killed because of the gun control laws- Just ask Paul or Donald Trump

[NoNamePerson]

Jan 9, 2015 23:31:31 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

Yep- and all the training, gun laws, lack of gun laws isn't going to stop it- except in France of course since their people were killed because of the gun control laws- Just ask Paul or Donald Trump

Damn, is The Donald on our board Sorry that just caught my eye and I had to ask   

[mroped]

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

A machine gun on each side under your long heavy coat wouldn't help you!
The question is how many weapons and how big do they need to be before you are certain that no one gets the drop on you?

If we flaunt our weapons out in the open would that make us invincible or less of a target?

[Artemis Windsong]

A person needs to read the opponent.  I am sure the shooter leaked evil either in their body language or eyes.   A self-defense instructor should have seen it or sensed the danger. 

A lot of times the evil person will say something to someone on their plan.

[pappyjohn99]

Jan 10, 2015 7:53:32 GMT -5 mroped said:

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

A machine gun on each side under your long heavy coat wouldn't help you!
The question is how many weapons and how big do they need to be before you are certain that no one gets the drop on you?

If we flaunt our weapons out in the open would that make us invincible or less of a target?

If we flaunt stupid questions in the open does that make us an idiot?

If someone decides they want you dead, they can find a way to make it happen. JFK had the best security in the world and Oswald got the drop on him. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

[mroped]

Jan 10, 2015 9:32:42 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

Jan 10, 2015 7:53:32 GMT -5 mroped said:

A machine gun on each side under your long heavy coat wouldn't help you!
The question is how many weapons and how big do they need to be before you are certain that no one gets the drop on you?

If we flaunt our weapons out in the open would that make us invincible or less of a target?

If we flaunt stupid questions in the open does that make a bigger or smaller doorknob?

Did you take the time to ask yourself that?

[pappyjohn99]

Not really. I made a simple point that anyone can be ambushed anywhere. John Lennon was minding his own business walking home one night and Chapman shot him. MLK stepped out of a hotel room and he was shot dead. Reagan had a half a dozen secret service people around him and got shot. We just had a general killed with a zillion soilders around him. What are you thinking? If only there were no guns the world would be unicorns and rainbows?

[pappyjohn99]

Jan 10, 2015 9:26:21 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

A person needs to read the opponent.  I am sure the shooter leaked evil either in their body language or eyes.   A self-defense instructor should have seen it or sensed the danger. 

A lot of times the evil person will say something to someone on their plan.

Perhaps he did. But you know the deal. The reasonable person won't draw on someone over just a feeling. Before you can react, BANG, the bad guy shoots you dead. Because, well, he's the bad guy and he doesn't care.

[EVT1]

Jan 10, 2015 6:26:29 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Jan 9, 2015 23:31:31 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Yep- and all the training, gun laws, lack of gun laws isn't going to stop it- except in France of course since their people were killed because of the gun control laws- Just ask Paul or Donald Trump

Damn, is The Donald on our board Sorry that just caught my eye and I had to ask   

No- Trump is just the only other person that has made that ridiculous claim about gun control and France. Paul is in good company   No one is smarter than the Donald- just ask the Donald.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

or a bunch of cowards, like ..... Benghazi?

[pappyjohn99]

Jan 10, 2015 11:37:22 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

or a bunch of cowards, like ..... Benghazi?

Absolutely like Benghazi. My beef with the administration over that issue isn't the fact the attack happened. It's the long string of lies they told afterword.

[mroped]

You got me wrong pappyjohn!
To me gun control sounds more like "hold it steady, aim, control your breathing and shoot! You missed! Back to target practice with you!"
Ofcourse I am also of the opinion that we don't realy need automatic weapons or oversized clips and if you are proven not to be trusty in regards to your mental abilities, u should not be authorized to handle guns. In other words you have to be a responsible gun owner!

[Value Buy]

Jan 10, 2015 11:37:22 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

or a bunch of cowards, like ..... Benghazi?

Can you explain your response?

I am not sure what you are saying

Thanks

[Artemis Windsong]

Jan 10, 2015 10:07:42 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

Jan 10, 2015 9:26:21 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

A person needs to read the opponent.  I am sure the shooter leaked evil either in their body language or eyes.   A self-defense instructor should have seen it or sensed the danger. 

A lot of times the evil person will say something to someone on their plan.

Perhaps he did. But you know the deal. The reasonable person won't draw on someone over just a feeling. Before you can react, BANG, the bad guy shoots you dead. Because, well, he's the bad guy and he doesn't care.

True.  How ironic - a shooting at a weapons self-defense/gun store that was not an accident. 

I am sorry for the victims and their families.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 9, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

You can be the baddest mofo in the world and still be ambushed by a coward.

Pretty much.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Shawnee police said in a news release that John Bieker, 44, died after the shooting at the Shawnee store called She's a Pistol, which caters to female gun owners. Police said gunfire erupted after four men tried to rob Bieker and his wife, Rebecca.

Authorities said John Bieker and two of the suspects had been taken from the store in critical condition. Rebecca Bieker wasn't shot but sustained minor injuries.

Police said in a news release that the other two suspects, including one who had been shot, fled but were located a short time later on the porch of a nearby home. Johnson County MED-ACT spokeswoman Angela Fera said the injuries of the fourth shooting victim weren't considered life-threatening.

The uninjured suspect was being held on suspicion of aggravated robbery. The hospitalized suspects were under guard, police said.

Sounds like they were trying to rob a gun shop- which sounds like foolery-- unless you're after guns.  They probably figured four people would be enough.  It wasn't.  Instead, three suspects were wounded and ALL suspects were apprehended. Probably because it was a gun shop, and not a convenience store.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]