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Post by ameiko on Mar 3, 2011 19:44:47 GMT -5
Congressional Hispanic Caucus Chairman Rep. Charles Gonzalez, D-Texas, said in a statement Thursday that his group remains "committed" to comprehensive immigration reform, despite the failure last year to pass a bill providing some illegal immigrant students and military members a pathway to legalized status. "Despite this impasse, the CHC remains committed to our stated goal of passing comprehensive immigration reform and will continue to work to find a bipartisan solution to one of our nation's most untenable problems," Gonzalez said.
I have your "comprehensive immigration reform" right here: fortify the border with sniper rifles and mines and then SHOOT anyone who tries to violate our national sovereignty!
Any illegal alien found in America is surgically tagged (and the bill sent to their country of origin). If they cross the border into the US illegally again, they will be shot.
Any non citizen legal resident who is found aiding and abetting illegal aliens will recieve the same treatment.
AND NO AMNESTY! We tried it once and all we got were MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 19:47:01 GMT -5
 at least let the farmers on the border hire private armed security, seeing as how the federal govt refuses to do it's duty for political reasons that are to the detriment of the American citizen
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 3, 2011 19:52:49 GMT -5
He refuses to arm them because it isn't against Mexican law and that makes him a moron? Are YOU a moron? Are you saying that we should declare war on Mexico? Because I definitely recommend you present that idea to Washington. |
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Post by ameiko on Mar 3, 2011 20:02:33 GMT -5
He refuses to arm them because it isn't against Mexican law and that makes him a moron? Are YOU a moron? Are you saying that we should declare war on Mexico? Because I definitely recommend you present that idea to Washington. 1. He and the Mexican President met over the issue. The latter could change the law; he refused. Obama should have told down south that either you let us arm our citizens or we will pull every single US government resource out TODAY. He did not do this, instead spouting about alternate solutions in a country that only understand the power of the gun. Who ELSE will protect the agents? A corrupt and cowed police force? If he thinks ANY other solution will protect our people then YES HE IS A MORON! Obama can strongarm this through easy but is either too naive or corrupt to do so. 2. As for declaring war on Mexico, I can't see that anywhere in my words but please, keep reaching. I find it amusing. |
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 3, 2011 20:07:23 GMT -5
I just assumed that's what you meant by disregarded Mexican law.. and because Mexico is a democracy, the president cannot just change the law, he'd have to go through the Mexican legislature, I believe.
He could, theoretically, just pull our officials out of Mexico... since it doesn't really make sense that we're there anyway...
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2011 20:09:09 GMT -5
This message has been deleted. Same thought as reply above.  |
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2011 20:10:59 GMT -5
... He could, theoretically, just pull our officials out of Mexico... since it doesn't really make sense that we're there anyway... It makes great sense to have our officials working to help control the flow from a point south of the actual border. |
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Post by vonnie6200 on Mar 3, 2011 20:24:46 GMT -5
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 20:50:48 GMT -5
no securing the border is out of the question. America can't do it. we don't have the technology or the manpower! oh wait.... never mind  |
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Post by ameiko on Mar 3, 2011 20:50:54 GMT -5
I just assumed that's what you meant by disregarded Mexican law.. and because Mexico is a democracy, the president cannot just change the law, he'd have to go through the Mexican legislature, I believe. He could, theoretically, just pull our officials out of Mexico... since it doesn't really make sense that we're there anyway... I concede that I don't know a great deal about the powers of their president, whether he can issue executive orders. That said, if Obama said- "let me arm my people or else" it WOULD happen. Mexico has too much to lose for them to not put a bill in and have it voted yes. It could be done in under a week and that assumes that their president can't issue an order to his law enforcement peeps to not enforce the law on US agents being armed. Simple. Obama is the chief executive, in effect the chief law enforcement officer in America and part of that duty (not that Obama has any experience with duty or running anything) is giving your agents the ability to protect themselves. If he does not do that, he is failing in his job. If he exposes them to unneeded danger (assinging them unarmed in a nation as dangerous as Mexico) then he has failed. I am quite curious: is this actually against the law in Mexico for US law enforcement agents assigned there to be unarmed? Is this a new law? If I was the President I would pull out every single agent from every single country that did not allow my agents to protect themselves. |
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 3, 2011 21:01:10 GMT -5
Congressional Hispanic Caucus Chairman Rep. Charles Gonzalez, D-Texas, said in a statement Thursday that his group remains "committed" to comprehensive immigration reform, despite the failure last year to pass a bill providing some illegal immigrant students and military members a pathway to legalized status. "Despite this impasse, the CHC remains committed to our stated goal of passing comprehensive immigration reform and will continue to work to find a bipartisan solution to one of our nation's most untenable problems," Gonzalez said. I have your "comprehensive immigration reform" right here: fortify the border with sniper rifles and mines and then SHOOT anyone who tries to violate our national sovereignty! Any illegal alien found in America is surgically tagged (and the bill sent to their country of origin). If they cross the border into the US illegally again, they will be shot. Any non citizen legal resident who is found aiding and abetting illegal aliens will recieve the same treatment. --------------------------------------------------------    |
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Post by ameiko on Mar 3, 2011 22:57:28 GMT -5
Congressional Hispanic Caucus Chairman Rep. Charles Gonzalez, D-Texas, said in a statement Thursday that his group remains "committed" to comprehensive immigration reform, despite the failure last year to pass a bill providing some illegal immigrant students and military members a pathway to legalized status. "Despite this impasse, the CHC remains committed to our stated goal of passing comprehensive immigration reform and will continue to work to find a bipartisan solution to one of our nation's most untenable problems," Gonzalez said. I have your "comprehensive immigration reform" right here: fortify the border with sniper rifles and mines and then SHOOT anyone who tries to violate our national sovereignty! Any illegal alien found in America is surgically tagged (and the bill sent to their country of origin). If they cross the border into the US illegally again, they will be shot. Any non citizen legal resident who is found aiding and abetting illegal aliens will recieve the same treatment. -------------------------------------------------------- I wasn't aware that securing our borders from invaders who drive down wages to hurt millions of Americans as well as rape and murder our citizens makes one crazy. Our own farmers and ranchers are abandoning their homes (and hurting our food supply) because not only does the federal government refuse to enforce the law but sues state governments who try to enforce the law for it! It also lets illegal aliens to sue homeowners who defend their homes and property. And you think I'm crazy. Wow. Guess what you do with invaders. YOU KILL THEM! If you followed my advice, illegal immigration from the south and the existing ones would flee back south. |
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 3, 2011 23:05:27 GMT -5
I just assumed that's what you meant by disregarded Mexican law.. and because Mexico is a democracy, the president cannot just change the law, he'd have to go through the Mexican legislature, I believe. He could, theoretically, just pull our officials out of Mexico... since it doesn't really make sense that we're there anyway... I concede that I don't know a great deal about the powers of their president, whether he can issue executive orders. That said, if Obama said- "let me arm my people or else" it WOULD happen. Mexico has too much to lose for them to not put a bill in and have it voted yes. It could be done in under a week and that assumes that their president can't issue an order to his law enforcement peeps to not enforce the law on US agents being armed. Simple. Some presidents try not to bully the rest of the world, it's what has turned us from a laughing stock into a (at least) marginally respected country again. According to the article you posted, it is against the law and I can't find anything that says when it was enacted, though one site called the law "Antiquated". We've put law enforcement in Mexico for decades so yelling about how it's Obama's bad is a bit silly. Oh and apparently we have this deal with multiple countries (I'd venture to guess it goes both ways). |
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 1:21:34 GMT -5
If you want the co-operation of Mexican Authorities, simply declare Mexico off limits to American tourists until their government agrees to do something about the invasion of illegals. Hitting people in the pocketbook works wonders.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 1:33:35 GMT -5
If you want the co-operation of Mexican Authorities, simply declare Mexico off limits to American tourists until their government agrees to do something about the invasion of illegals. Hitting people in the pocketbook works wonders. "... simply ..."? Right!  |
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 1:40:17 GMT -5
Nutin' hard about it.
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 4, 2011 1:49:22 GMT -5
LOL! Right, because American tourists, many of whom own property in Mexico, will definitely stand for that.  |
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 1:51:35 GMT -5
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 1:55:56 GMT -5
Implement this plan and Mexico would cave in 6 months.
And tourists that don't like it will do what? Protest like Wisconsin? I doubt it.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 1:58:01 GMT -5
Bill- The same things go on in Daytona Beach. Let's keep those dollars here at home.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 2:01:41 GMT -5
Bill- The same things go on in Daytona Beach. Let's keep those dollars here at home. Drinking age. But I am old so  |
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 2:05:14 GMT -5
Drinking age. More nanny state bullsh!t.  But i see your point. Oh well sorry kids, you'll have to go to Jamaica.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Mar 4, 2011 2:11:18 GMT -5
Guess what you do with invaders. YOU KILL THEM! If you followed my advice, illegal immigration from the south and the existing ones would flee back south.
You are wasting your time trying to explain this simple logic to Mr. deziloooooo. It is as if he is as anti American as the worst of any terrorist. A typical liberal, they ride some imaginary snowy white chariot of rosy bliss totally ignoring the implications of their policies. Implications that only harm the people who are the real contributers to the nation. This must stop and will stop by force if necessary. If they can change the rules by importing aliens who only reinforce their misguided agenda then anything goes at that point. That is not democracy so no need to hope for victory at the ballot box.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 4, 2011 2:13:18 GMT -5
And another tool in our box. Since Mexico just hit us with a 10% taffif on goods going there, let's add a 35% wire transfer tax to all money being transfered to Mexico.
The Mexicans would scream like children! Money wired to Mexico is the #2 revenue stream for them. I bet they would build the fence themselves. lol
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Post by ameiko on Mar 4, 2011 19:06:48 GMT -5
Some presidents try not to bully the rest of the world, it's what has turned us from a laughing stock into a (at least) marginally respected country again.
*buzzer*
INCORRECT!
1. it is not bullying to only allow US law enforcement agents to help in other nations if they are allowed to carry weapons to defend themselves, ESPECIALLY in a nation as violent and corrupt as Mexico.
2. it is most certainly not bullying to defend your own soverieng territory. Indeed, it is a most sacred duty of any nation.
3. don't believe the hype about Bush, Obama, and the opinion of fair weather friends. Some nations didn't like Bush because his willingness to FIGHT rather than curl up and die (as so many European have done in the face of Islam) exposed their cowardice. He also exposed the exposed the UN (you know, the same one that ran Oil for Food that let Saddam stay in power and enrich not only him but several European nations) for the fraud it is when it refused to bank up its own sanctions.
Many nations actually liked Bush, including Eastern Europe who knew that he respected freedom and would fight for it, as well as stand up to a rising Russia.
Meanwhile, we have Obama showing submission to a Saudi prince and the Japanese Emperor, exposed as willing to throw Eastern Europe under the bus to appease Russia, a craven and dithering fool who sways with the wind by first refusing to support change in an enemy like IRan and then stabbing an ally in the back by telling the leader of Egypt to leave.
Heck, England hates him as a fool: sent back a prestigous gift to England (a bust of Churchill given to another president as a symbol of alliance) and gave a bunch of movies that can't even be played in England! He or his wife touched the Queen when meeting, a HUGE breach of etiquette.
The rest of the world knows that he's a lightweight and disrespect him and we have had more attacks, including successful ones, on US soil under his one incomplete term than Bush's two terms because Islam knows he's weak (or a brother).
But, please ignore reality.
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Post by ameiko on Mar 4, 2011 19:07:42 GMT -5
And another tool in our box. Since Mexico just hit us with a 10% taffif on goods going there, let's add a 35% wire transfer tax to all money being transfered to Mexico. The Mexicans would scream like children! Money wired to Mexico is the #2 revenue stream for them. I bet they would build the fence themselves. lol LOVE IT!!!!!! |
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