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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 8:49:20 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if tiki was actually vegan though?
Its easy for for an individual cooking for themselves to avoid butter. Going to someone else's house for a holiday may be more challenging.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 8:54:41 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if tiki was actually vegan though? Its easy for for an individual cooking for themselves to avoid butter. Going to someone else's house for a holiday may be more challenging. oh definitely....probably best in that case to eat at home and bring a dish to share that you can eat.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 4, 2014 9:18:05 GMT -5
Ray, get outta my head! I just had the same thoughts, and I was also going to ask (if you don't mind me crashing your thread) if anyone has a side order of family drama on tap for the holiday. I have some minor surgery to get done between now and the holiday, so I have to start early with preparations. We eat fresh Kosher turkey, so I need to order one this week. My niece is a vegetarian, so I need to plan a few dishes for her (and I don't mind doing it; she's wonderful, and we can all eat those things anyway). My brother and his family are staying over Thanksgiving night. We offered to keep the kids (ages 16, 15 and 8) and let him and the DW have a nice night in a hotel. Heck, I'll have extra cleanup help if we have the kids. I couldn't read past that sentence. The very first time I bought a Kosher turkey, I was also 6-7 wks pregnant. When I took it out and realized I had to start picking out all those little thingies out, it made me so nauseous, I almost puked. To this day I can't even think about kosher turkeys without having that feeling back. Never again!!! Aw, I know. Sorry about that, on behalf of my people. Kosher turkey are not machine-plucked; they are plucked by hand, so a little clean up is sometimes needed. They do taste really good, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 9:32:24 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if tiki was actually vegan though? Its easy for for an individual cooking for themselves to avoid butter. Going to someone else's house for a holiday may be more challenging. Not vegan I am permitted to have dairy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 9:40:54 GMT -5
Things that come from animals, eggs, butter, other dairy, etc. Was wondering if it was just meat that was an issue... Not so hard to avoid at thanksgiving. Or all animal related products, which is doable with the cook's help but harder... At least in my house where butter ruled Thanksgiving Only meat and eggs are prohibited or else what a animal must die to give like gelatin
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 4, 2014 9:47:24 GMT -5
Things that come from animals, eggs, butter, other dairy, etc. Was wondering if it was just meat that was an issue... Not so hard to avoid at thanksgiving. Or all animal related products, which is doable with the cook's help but harder... At least in my house where butter ruled Thanksgiving Only meat and eggs are prohibited or else what a animal must die to give like gelatin It just dawned on me that you must be Buddhist. Sigh (you know you're a boring, focused (and probably an idiot) for not realizing what the symbols on someone's posts are) Sorry Tiki.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 10:01:42 GMT -5
Only meat and eggs are prohibited or else what a animal must die to give like gelatin It just dawned on me that you must be Buddhist. Sigh (you know you're a boring, focused (and probably an idiot) for not realizing what the symbols on someone's posts are) Sorry Tiki. Oh no its OK!! Except I'm Hindu person.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 4, 2014 10:54:54 GMT -5
I wish were gonna have customary American thanksgiving dinner except we are prohibited to take meat and probably you gotta have turkey for tradition. Somebody has a idea how we can have tradition without turkey? Thank you! Tiki, the ONLY, REAL, AUTHENTIC Thanksgiving tradition is to spend some time that day (or every day, actually) giving thanks for all of the blessings in one's life. The menu to accompany the gratitude should be secondary and can differ widely from family to family and from region to region. Turkey is customary, but we also serve red meat because not everyone likes turkey. It is not unheard of to have huge pans of lasagna (that might be a good option for you) or paella or gumbo or venison or any other personal dish at Thanksgiving. Often some of the dishes in some families are served only on holidays, so are special and considered traditional to that family. Regardless of what one serves, the point is to reflect and to give thanks. So, go ahead and have a "traditional" Thanksgiving with whatever special dishes your family enjoys.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 4, 2014 11:00:42 GMT -5
Eight days ago I invited 18 people for Thanksgiving (usually one of us in this large group hosts and I blinked first this year, LOL). Not one person has RSVPed yet. Not one. And I know they got the email because I checked the message status. In a few days I think I will just make other plans. I mean, what's to think about? You either can come, can't come, or don't want to, right? Just give me an answer so I can start to plan -- either Thanksgiving dinner for up to 22 or a really fun Plan B for the four of us. Oy. When did you ask for them to RSVP by? I don't know that I would get upset, yet. I don't know, yet, for sure what's going on for ours. I didn't give a deadline. That's not how my family operates. We just put the invitation out there and people reply whether they are coming or not. I always TRY to reply quickly -- even if it is along the lines of what Single said regarding potential schedule conflicts -- and most others follow suit. Usually someone at least replies within 9 days. I think I'll send a second email and then just make my plans. I know everyone is busy with life, but so am I and if I don't have to deep clean or plan serving pieces or buy huge quantities of food, then I don't want to spend my time doing all of that unnecessarily.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Nov 4, 2014 11:09:56 GMT -5
I wish were gonna have customary American thanksgiving dinner except we are prohibited to take meat and probably you gotta have turkey for tradition. Somebody has a idea how we can have tradition without turkey? Thank you! The side dishes are the star of the show for me! Mashed potatoes (no gravy), roasted sweet potatoes and apples, coleslaw (we always have it at every holiday), rolls, cranberries, apple pie, pumpkin pie, yum! You can make whatever you want it your traditional meal. :-)
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Post by lynnerself on Nov 4, 2014 11:11:49 GMT -5
We never "invite" anyone. It's more like an extended family negotiation that usually starts around July. "Who's having Thanksgiving this year?" Since the family is spread across 3 states it's an important decision. The last few years, my niece has hosted. She has the only 2 great grandchildren and wants it in her own house. We don't want my in laws to host any longer. They are 80 and it's too much work. So, anyway, we are driving 10 hours each way. And DS is flying there on Thursday.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 4, 2014 11:38:09 GMT -5
That's our family, except there are no negotiations. Everyone just sits on their hands and waits until someone caves and volunteers. I decided to host this year because we are in a huge 10 room rental home with double ovens, a 6 burner stove, and 2 acres -- plenty of room for everyone to spread out. That way, when I move back into my little Cape in the spring, I will have bought myself several years of freedom from hosting.
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Post by milee on Nov 4, 2014 11:43:02 GMT -5
The side dishes are the star of the show for me! Me too. I'm not a huge turkey fan. I'll eat it, especially if it's just for one meal but it's not something I'd seek out or want to eat leftovers of or anything like that. When I'm just hosting my immediate family, sometimes I don't even make a turkey for Thanksgiving because none of us really likes turkey leftovers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:47:08 GMT -5
I wish were gonna have customary American thanksgiving dinner except we are prohibited to take meat and probably you gotta have turkey for tradition. Somebody has a idea how we can have tradition without turkey? Thank you! The side dishes are the star of the show for me! Mashed potatoes (no gravy), roasted sweet potatoes and apples, coleslaw (we always have it at every holiday), rolls, cranberries, apple pie, pumpkin pie, yum! You can make whatever you want it your traditional meal. :-) OK thank you!
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:20:50 GMT -5
We're hosting potentially 30 people this year (20 is just family so it really isn't as big as it sounds).So, an extra 3 won't make a big difference right?
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:25:37 GMT -5
Since people keep mentioning the green bean casserole, I have to plug this recipe. I discovered it last year and used it at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Big hit. I have also made it with broccoli, which is better (I think).
(@singlemominmd, it's also a good recipe if you think you don't like GBC. It tastes nothing like the cream o'crap versions.)
This thread is making me hungry!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:27:19 GMT -5
Since people keep mentioning the green bean casserole, I have to plug this recipe. I discovered it last year and used it at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Big hit. I have also made it with broccoli, which is better (I think). This thread is making me hungry! why do people treat their green beans so badly....
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:30:16 GMT -5
why do people treat their green beans so badly....
They're reasonably crisp in this recipe. But as I said, I really prefer broccoli. Just not a big green bean fan.
Anyone here who hates turkey? Even with DH preparing it with the yummiest looking recipe I have ever laid eyes on, I still didn't like it. I've never tasted a turkey that wasn't dry and I don't like gravy. So it stays dry.
By the way, how big are all of your houses? I can't even imagine hosting ten people for dinner.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:32:24 GMT -5
why do people treat their green beans so badly....
They're reasonably crisp in this recipe. But as I said, I really prefer broccoli. Just not a big green bean fan. Anyone here who hates turkey? Even with DH preparing it with the yummiest looking recipe I have ever laid eyes on, I still didn't like it. I've never tasted a turkey that wasn't dry and I don't like gravy. So it stays dry. By the way, how big are all of your houses? I can't even imagine hosting ten people for dinner. if you've only had dry turkey, then the people cooking it don't know what they're doing. and the thought of green beans or broccoli mixed with cream sauce and french onions just makes me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:33:16 GMT -5
why do people treat their green beans so badly.... Because green beans are BAD! This is one of my son's favorite books.
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:37:40 GMT -5
if you've only had dry turkey, then the people cooking it don't know what they're doing.
Everyone says that, but it's not true. I've tasted dozens of turkeys prepared by some very good cooks. Turkeys are just dry to me.
DH is an excellent cook - this is how he prepared the turkey last year, and it came out exactly like Gordon's did. It was a beautiful and delicious looking bird. It smelled amazing. I thought there was no way in hell it could possibly be dry.
It was dry. I still don't understand how it happened. I was really bummed.
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Post by Abby Normal on Nov 4, 2014 12:38:12 GMT -5
The side dishes are the star of the show for me! Mashed potatoes (no gravy), roasted sweet potatoes and apples, coleslaw (we always have it at every holiday), rolls, cranberries, apple pie, pumpkin pie, yum! You can make whatever you want it your traditional meal. :-) OK thank you! Yep- you can have whatever you want and start your own tradition. For us, it means getting the extended family together, having way too much food and consuming as much as possible, and football. We do have turkey, but mashed potatoes, cranberry compote, fruit salad, sweet potatoes, deviled eggs, and squash are a big part of the meal. We have traditional dishes that we only prepare at thanksgiving (like the fruit salad because it takes forever to make)- and you dare not change it or prepare for the wrath of the family. You can google vegetarian thanksgiving and it will pull up a ton of winter vegetable recipes. That might be a good place to start.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:38:53 GMT -5
if you've only had dry turkey, then the people cooking it don't know what they're doing.Everyone says that, but it's not true. Turkeys are just dry. DH is an excellent cook - this is how he prepared the turkey last year, and it came out exactly like Gordon's did. It was a beautiful and delicious looking bird. I thought there was no way in hell it could possibly be dry. It was dry. I still don't understand how it happened. I can't see youtube videos at work, but we always make ours in a bag. I don't think I've ever known one to dry out in a bag.
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:47:11 GMT -5
I can't see youtube videos at work, but we always make ours in a bag. I don't think I've ever known one to dry out in a bag.
It's probably just some weird taste thing for me. Even the ones in the bags taste dry to me. My theory is that most people like gravy so they don't notice how dry they are
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:48:01 GMT -5
I can't see youtube videos at work, but we always make ours in a bag. I don't think I've ever known one to dry out in a bag.
It's probably just some weird taste thing for me. Even the ones in the bags taste dry to me. My theory is that most people like gravy so they don't notice how dry they are I don't use gravy and don't find my turkey dry at all.....
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Post by Abby Normal on Nov 4, 2014 12:48:05 GMT -5
Since people keep mentioning the green bean casserole, I have to plug this recipe. I discovered it last year and used it at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Big hit. I have also made it with broccoli, which is better (I think). (@singlemominmd, it's also a good recipe if you think you don't like GBC. It tastes nothing like the cream o'crap versions.) This thread is making me hungry! Yumm. Trying that one this year.
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:49:57 GMT -5
Our typical Thanksgiving menu now is roast ham (om nom nom), mashed potatoes, broccoli casserole, homemade rolls and homemade apple pie. And lots of wine. I'm very proud of myself for being in charge of half of that stuff A couple of years ago I couldn't cook at all. I don't like cooking every day but now it's one of my absolute favorite holiday activities. This year I'm going to challenge myself by making the pie dough from scratch in addition to the filling. It doesn't look too tough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:51:05 GMT -5
I hate gravy. We make huge turkeys though. Nothing under 23 pounds (and it still takes at least two). That might make a difference. Smaller is probably easier to overcook.
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Post by Firebird on Nov 4, 2014 12:52:25 GMT -5
Yumm. Trying that one this year.
Two tips from experience:
1. Use more flour in the cream sauce. It doesn't get thick enough for me the way he does it.
2. Use like 3-4x more onions than you think you need. I don't know what kind of alchemy Chef John has access to, but I think the recipe asked for 2-3 onions and once caramelized that was barely 1/4 of what I needed.
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Post by Abby Normal on Nov 4, 2014 12:56:00 GMT -5
This year I'm going to challenge myself by making the pie dough from scratch in addition to the filling. It doesn't look too tough. Don't over knead the dough. The less you do with it the flakier it will be. (thanks grandma)
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