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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 18, 2014 11:23:13 GMT -5
I'm sure the sights are beautiful over there. I just don't want to see it in person. If you ever are interested in doing so, you can safely travel to Christian Spain and visit and appreciate the art and architecture of Islam at the Ahlhambra in the city of Cordova. Alhambra
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 18, 2014 11:46:50 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the Alhambra is in Granada, Tenn. It really is stunning and there's lots to see of interest in Granada, as there is in Cordoba. You really need a couple of days to do any sort of justice to either city, IMO.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 18, 2014 11:59:04 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the Alhambra is in Granada, Tenn. It really is stunning and there's lots to see of interest in Granada, as there is in Cordoba. You really need a couple of days to do any sort of justice to either city, IMO. My error. We have a neighboring town called Cordova which I always relate to Cordoba, Spain and the Caliphate of Cordoba-another city with Roman and Islamic art and architecture.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 18, 2014 12:04:51 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the Alhambra is in Granada, Tenn. It really is stunning and there's lots to see of interest in Granada, as there is in Cordoba. You really need a couple of days to do any sort of justice to either city, IMO. My error. We have a neighboring town called Cordova which I always relate to Cordoba, Spain and the Caliphate of Cordoba-another city with Roman and Islamic art and architecture. Tenn, you were close enough for me! Don't be so hard on yourself. Ancient buildings and ruins in Europe is great regardless where you visit. It's a miracle as many sites still abound today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 12:11:57 GMT -5
My error. We have a neighboring town called Cordova which I always relate to Cordoba, Spain and the Caliphate of Cordoba-another city with Roman and Islamic art and architecture. Tenn, you were close enough for me! Don't be so hard on yourself. Ancient buildings and ruins in Europe is great regardless where you visit. It's a miracle as many sites still abound today.
There is much Muslim art at places in Europe that your gonna not expect it. Muslims living at Christian places is not a new thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 10:52:27 GMT -5
It's really such a shame you can't know some of my dear friends from the Middle East, @jma23. I think that might give you a different view. Nevertheless, each to his/her own. I enjoyed my time abroad and, while I was glad to come home I was also sad to leave. I learned a lot and grew a lot in the presence of other people from other cultures. I saw things I'd never have dreamed I'd see and had experiences that were unique and memorable. For me, it was a wonderful time of discovery that I'll never regret. I was only relating what I was told from another source, some one else who spent a lot of his life there. He never said where in the ME he was located. Maybe he was required to be in an area that was less pleasant than you were in? Is the sectarian violence being misrepresented by our media ? Is it only occurring in a very small % of the area and being blown out of proportion? I usually watch either ABC, CBS, or NBC network news in the evening. Like most big media networks they have been known to sensationalize in the past to sell commercial time. So I wouldn't really be surprised I'm getting an incorrect representation of the area. Right now, that reporting makes me not want to go there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:12:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately the only other person I knew that spent a long time in the middle east besides you was a CIA man that retired close to where I live now. My DW actually met him first while he was volunteering at our regional hospital. He had little to say about the time he was working the area except for how the culture over there is not really understandable by the average westerner. What he did say about living there wasn't too positive and he was glad to retire and never have to go back. He made it sound like he was there for a good part of his working life, living there like a local. His stories coupled with all the media sources reporting sectarian violence etc, all in the name of divisional religious practice makes me have a bad opinion of the area. We don't have different divisions of Christian radicals killing one another over here. With that as my lifetime frame of reference I'm of the preference to be in the culture of here. I'm sure the sights are beautiful over there. I just don't want to see it in person. Actually JMA that is not true... "We don't have different divisions of Christian radicals killing one another over here."When you consider history, it was only a short time ago that Christians were fighting a 100 year war between the two sects of christianity and while they did not have bombs to set off , if you read of the burning's , torn a sunder,village and town destruction's...even in this century here in our own country , the home of the brave and wanted...Protestant majority did all they could to keep out the Catholic Irish..Italian and any other group that had a different religion from themselves...As a non christian I never really understood these differences and hatreds...preety much putting a handle on the schism between Shia and Sunni and the other minor sects in between.. Actually if you consider that Islam history goes back what, 1400 years or so and Christianity is about 2000 give or take a bit...possible in another 600 years the Muslims will have graduated to where the two sects of Christianity is today.. "I'm of the preference to be in the culture of here. I'm sure the sights are beautiful over there. I just don't want to see it in person."Not wanting to experience sights and events your not familer with , personally I wouldn't be so proud of that and want to voice that around..but then again that's me... I have little or no ego, so being proud or not voicing something around because I might be defined in a negative light by someone else doesn't mean anything to me. I only wish not to go there for safety reasons as portrayed by our media. It really had nothing to do with whether I want to see the sights there.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 21, 2014 12:04:57 GMT -5
Heck, @jma23, there are placed in the Middle East I wouldn't go right now, either. I wouldn't choose to wander, voluntarily, into any war zone - I don't care where it is! As I said, right now the Middle East is a mess. It's not really up to receiving visitors, IMO. However, it wasn't always like that and it won't always be like that, despite the doom-sayers' insistence. Because I know the area, there are places I'd go, even now, with the right plans in place, and I wouldn't worry about violence. I wouldn't head for Iraq, or Syria right now. Wouldn't worry much about Saudi, or UAE, or Qatar, or Bahrain, or Kuwait. I'd feel okay going to any of those. I'd dive the Red Sea again in a heartbeat!
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