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Post by ed1066 on Mar 1, 2011 18:27:04 GMT -5
Surprise, surprise, surprise! Another left-winger lets it slip! According to a column in a British magazine, Julian Assange complained that he believes a "Jewish" conspiracy is bent on smearing WikiLeaks. Private Eye, a print magazine know both for satire and original reporting, printed a column penned by editor Ian Hislop today that details a February 16 phone conversation between Hislop and Assange. While discussing a WikiLeaks associate in Russia recently accused of denying the Holocaust, Assange told Hislop that the story represented a larger conspiracy organized by the Guardian newspaper in order to deny his organization of Jewish donations and support. In a reproduction of the Private Eye column -- which is currently only available in print -- Hislip attempted to reason with Assange: [Assange] went on to say that we were part of a conspiracy led by the Guardian which included journalist David Leigh, editor Alan Rusbridger and John Kampfner from Index on Censorship -- all of whom "are Jewish". I pointed out that Rusbridger is not actually Jewish, but Assange insisted that he was "sort of Jewish" because he was related to David Leigh (they are brothers-in-law). When I doubted whether his Jewish conspiracty would stand up against the facts, Assange suddently conceded the point. "Forget the Jewish thing." www.salon.com/news/julian_assange/index.html?story=/news/feature/2011/03/01/assange_jewish_conspiracy_guardian_wikileaks
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 1, 2011 19:42:14 GMT -5
'Forget the Jewish thing "
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2011 9:16:35 GMT -5
I'm not seeing the point of the OP.........................
Assange said it's Jews behind the smear, and then when confronted with facts that discount his theory, he changes his mind.
A brilliant but crazy tinfoil hat wearing dude spouts off. So what?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 2, 2011 9:22:24 GMT -5
I said it before, and I'll say it again- every left winger I ever met is an anti-semite. Every one. They aren't all foaming at the mouth Jew haters like Jimmy Carter, but they all hate the Jews, or they have a problem on some level with the Jewish people.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 2, 2011 9:23:40 GMT -5
And to be fair to the left wingers here- we haven't met. So, I'm not calling anyone here an anti-semite, though it would hardly surprise me to find out. With left wingers, I don't want to quite say "guilty until proven innocent" but you're all at least suspects.
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2011 9:31:04 GMT -5
Oh no, not another convert to the very small school of belief in a vast left wing conspiracy against the Jewish people? Why then does the Jewish demographic tend historically to identify with and vote for Democrats? You beat me to it, Dem.
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2011 9:32:10 GMT -5
And to be fair to the left wingers here- we haven't met. So, I'm not calling anyone here an anti-semite, though it would hardly surprise me to find out. With left wingers, I don't want to quite say "guilty until proven innocent" but you're all at least suspects. I don't know if you consider me left wing or not, but I can assure you I don't hate Jewish people, or black people, or men, or women, or gays, or Hispanics, or Croations. People are people. Some are jerks, and some aren't.
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Post by workpublic on Mar 2, 2011 10:08:35 GMT -5
Why then does the Jewish demographic tend historically to identify with and vote for Democrats?
all my jewish friends are proud liberal democrats. i don't get the anti semite thing either.
i don't doubt however, in certain parts of the radical progressive movement there are factions that are more communistic, old europe, derived in their belifs. and both those "cultures" are historically anti semitic.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 10:17:19 GMT -5
I said it before, and I'll say it again- every left winger I ever met is an anti-semite. Every one. They aren't all foaming at the mouth Jew haters like Jimmy Carter, but they all hate the Jews, or they have a problem on some level with the Jewish people. Don't know who you met but I guess you have not met to many Jews and talked to them, the majority of them are , yup it's true , are liberal, left leaning types, smart folk even those who don't care for them admit, so to be a leftest and associate with anti folks....doesn't compute, though I know one here who feels the same way you do .... doesn't compute much either though so..mmmm ;D
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Post by flopsy on Mar 2, 2011 10:19:20 GMT -5
people are jealous of the Jews being the chosen ones
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 10:19:39 GMT -5
Oh no, not another convert to the very small school of belief in a vast left wing conspiracy against the Jewish people? Why then does the Jewish demographic tend historically to identify with and vote for Democrats? Oh thank you , thank you...I luv you...so tired being the only one who has mentioned the absurity..my first Karma this AM and so gladly given
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 10:22:39 GMT -5
people are jealous of the Jews being the chosen ones
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 2, 2011 10:26:27 GMT -5
I'm not seeing the point of the OP......................... Assange said it's Jews behind the smear, and then when confronted with facts that discount his theory, he changes his mind. A brilliant but crazy tinfoil hat wearing dude spouts off. So what? This means it's a slow news day swamp.....
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 10:29:55 GMT -5
Why then does the Jewish demographic tend historically to identify with and vote for Democrats? all my Jewish friends are proud liberal democrats. i don't get the anti semite thing either. i don't doubt however, in certain parts of the radical progressive movement there are factions that are more communistic, old europe, derived in their belifs. and both those "cultures" are historically anti semitic. Hey of course..some places it's the favorite thing to do...theres a lot of it out there...always some one...though when you think about it..those damn liberals, liking all folks..live and let live, spend the money, help everyone, take from the rich, give to the..., you know don't you , Robin Hood, a damn liberal, 110%, and all his bunch...not sure about the maid Marianne though but Robin was so good in bed..so she held her tongue , but the rest of them, Friar Tuck, not so sure, you know, church, middle ages....had their own feelings..but Will Scarlet? Hey..a easy one, especially with those colored tights..the way he walked..a bit of the , well you know..definitly a flaming liberal..made Robin look like a piker...
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 2, 2011 12:08:18 GMT -5
Yes, it's totally OK for him to blame his problems on "the Jews", as long as he concludes his statement with "forget the Jewish thing"...
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2011 12:59:10 GMT -5
He can blame his problems on whomever he wants, but we're free to think he's a nut.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 13:08:49 GMT -5
Yes, it's totally OK for him to blame his problems on "the Jews", as long as he concludes his statement with "forget the Jewish thing"... We agree on something...
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Post by Angel! on Mar 2, 2011 13:19:37 GMT -5
I said it before, and I'll say it again- every left winger I ever met is an anti-semite. Every one. Funny, because pretty much all of the Jewish people I know are liberal. I'll have to make sure & start asking them if they are anti-semites & be sure to warn them about me since I am a liberal & therefore must hate jews. WCP - you stereotype & judge more than almost anyone I know, which I find odd since you consider yourself to be very Christian in your values. When you talk sound like you live in a little box where you haven't met many of the people that you like to make broad judgements against.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 2, 2011 13:51:53 GMT -5
I acknowledge, but cannot explain, the fact that most Jewish people I know are liberal. There's no better friend of the Jewish people, or the State of Israel than conservatives, but the Jews tend to support Obama and his Hamas/Gaza/Democratic Party.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 2, 2011 14:39:18 GMT -5
I acknowledge, but cannot explain, the fact that most Jewish people I know are liberal. There's no better friend of the Jewish people, or the State of Israel than conservatives, but the Jews tend to support Obama and his Hamas/Gaza/Democratic Party. Hamas who are in control in Gaza are considered a terrorist organization. I see no support of them by Obama or the Democratic party. Aid going to the Palestinians, and a lot is going there from the US is funneled into the West Bank under the political control of the Palestinian Authority . They then on certain things channel to Gaza, their call, however all moneys that are dispersed are under the watch of the US, so your comment makes no sense from a factual standpoint, just your personal opinion, which in this case is wrong, but still, just your opinion. You have made clear your disdain of the President and also the Democratic party, thus I suggest your opinion is based on what your feelings are toward those two entities, the President and his party thus contributing to your feeling on the subject, colored and biased, not based on fact.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 2, 2011 14:57:34 GMT -5
I think you are referring to Fatah (which is also a terrorist organization founded by Yasser Arafat, the father of the airline hijack), not the PA. And in any case, the Palestinian people elected Hamas to lead them, not Fatah. Fatah is illegally retaining power in the West Bank, they are not the legally governing entity in the PA. So any aid going from the US to the PA is going to Hamas, and Obama, and the Democrats who control the Senate, seem to have no problem with that...
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Post by Angel! on Mar 2, 2011 15:05:28 GMT -5
I acknowledge, but cannot explain, the fact that most Jewish people I know are liberal. Maybe the explaination is that liberals aren't anti-semites, despite your beliefs. You have already contradicted yourself by saying every left-winger is an anti-semite, while also admitting most jewish people you know are liberal. So, obviously your original statement isn't true. I'm sure you will now go on to explain that you obviously meant all left-wingers (excepts Jews) are anti-semites. Sorry, but your stereotypes are getting old & are just wrong. It is a good thing I don't judge an entire group of people from one person's statements, or I might come to the conclusion that all conservative christians are closed-minded and use stereotypes to judge broad groups of people.
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