Bill Maher Destroys Charlie Rose

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Are we possibly waking up to the greatest threat the world faces today?  And it ain't "climate change".  I almost never agree with Bill Maher, but when it comes to Islam, he gets it.  He understands Islam itself is different from other religions, that it poses a unique threat because while most Muslims are moderate and would not carry out all of the precepts of their religion as taught by their prophet in the q'ran,

"MAHER:... But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think...So to claim that this religion is like other religions is just naive and plain wrong. It is not like other religious. The New York Times pointed out in an op-ed a couple weeks ago that in Saudi Arabia just since August 4th, they think it was, they have beheaded 19 people. Most for non-violent crimes including homosexuality...But I mean in Mecca where infidels, non-Muslims, are not even allowed in the holy parts of the city. I mean, right there, we don't have that example in other religions. They do behead people. Now if they were beheading people in Vatican City, which is the equivalent of Mecca, don't you think there would be a bigger outcry about it? So this is the soft bigotry of low expectations with Muslim people. When they do crazy things and believe crazy things, somehow it's not talked about nearly as much..."

ROSE: -- not representative of the Islamic religion. I don't think the Koran teaches them to do these kinds of things.

MAHER: Well you're wrong about that. The Koran absolutely has on every page stuff that's horrible about how the infidels should be treated. But for example again ISIS says that they should perform genital mutilation on all women 11-46. Would most Muslims agree with that? No. Or carry it out? No.

The whole planet is going to have to force the equivalent of the Reformation on Islam, or else.  I'm glad even some lefties are starting to get it.  Left and right have to unite against Islam as a geopolitical force just like we did against NAZIism and the Imperial Japanese.

nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/12/bill-maher-absolutely-crushes-charlie-rose-comparing-islam-christianity

Bill Maher absolute REFUSES to let Charlie Rose go wobbly on Islam, or to compare it to Christianity.

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Well... in fairness, the Bible tells how non Christians should be treated... and it's not exactly politely.

Homosexual? Stone them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Non-believer? Enslave them. (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Non-believer? Kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

There are many other "bad things" in The Bible... but you get the gist of my point. Islam is not the only religion who's "holy book" teaches to mistreat others.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 13, 2014 19:05:09 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Well... in fairness, the Bible tells how non Christians should be treated... and it's not exactly politely.

Homosexual? Stone them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Non-believer? Enslave them. (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Non-believer? Kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

There are many other "bad things" in The Bible... but you get the gist of my point. Islam is not the only religion who's "holy book" teaches to mistreat others.

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 13, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 13, 2014 19:05:09 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Well... in fairness, the Bible tells how non Christians should be treated... and it's not exactly politely.

Homosexual? Stone them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Non-believer? Enslave them. (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Non-believer? Kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

There are many other "bad things" in The Bible... but you get the gist of my point. Islam is not the only religion who's "holy book" teaches to mistreat others.

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

the OT is typically used as a mallet to beat people down, even in liberal Christian protestantism.

forgive me if i am singularly unimpressed by your defense of "grace" over "law".

[mmhmm]

I'll remain opposed to militant terrorism associated with any religion, or no religion, thank you very much.

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Sept 13, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 13, 2014 19:05:09 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Well... in fairness, the Bible tells how non Christians should be treated... and it's not exactly politely.

Homosexual? Stone them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Non-believer? Enslave them. (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Non-believer? Kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

There are many other "bad things" in The Bible... but you get the gist of my point. Islam is not the only religion who's "holy book" teaches to mistreat others.

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

Yeah... no. I'm not buying that until they stop using as it as an excuse to deny rights to others.

(but this line of thought should probably happen on the Religious sub-board... so I'll stop with that.)

I actually like Bill Maher, but he can be wrong. In this instance he is.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 13, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 13, 2014 19:05:09 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Well... in fairness, the Bible tells how non Christians should be treated... and it's not exactly politely.

Homosexual? Stone them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Non-believer? Enslave them. (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Non-believer? Kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

There are many other "bad things" in The Bible... but you get the gist of my point. Islam is not the only religion who's "holy book" teaches to mistreat others.

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

And yet, so many 'Christians' fall back on the OT when it serves their purpose.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 13, 2014 21:21:46 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Sept 13, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

Yeah... no. I'm not buying that until they stop using as it as an excuse to deny rights to others.

(but this line of thought should probably happen on the Religious sub-board... so I'll stop with that.)

I actually like Bill Maher, but he can be wrong. In this instance he is.

he can be kind of an ass.  especially with women, in my experience.

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He CAN be an ass. I agree... but most people know that about him and expect it.

I think he's an ass sometimes when I even agree with him... LOL

[djAdvocate]

Sept 13, 2014 22:30:42 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

He CAN be an ass. I agree... but most people know that about him and expect it.

I think he's an ass sometimes when I even agree with him... LOL

agreed.  this has been a fun day on the boards.  got to know a lot about people and their thoughts today.  that was good.

where the hell is mmhmm?

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Dunno. She may have just signed off to "do life stuff"...

[mmhmm]

I'm here on and off. I've been kinda busy lately, I'm afraid. Whuzzup? 

[djAdvocate]

Sept 14, 2014 10:19:59 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I'm here on and off. I've been kinda busy lately, I'm afraid. Whuzzup? 

nothing.  just missed your contributions to the discussion.

[mmhmm]

I've got family coming today, but I'll try to catch up the evening. Good to know I'm missed! 

[djAdvocate]

Sept 14, 2014 12:15:38 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I've got family coming today, but I'll try to catch up the evening. Good to know I'm missed! 

i am showing my bias here, but i found the "record employment" thread the most diverting.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 13, 2014 20:37:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Sept 13, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We have a New Testament- the law fulfilled.  And we've had a Reformation.  As Maher pointed out- no, it's not the same.  Not at all.

the OT is typically used as a mallet to beat people down, even in liberal Christian protestantism.

forgive me if i am singularly unimpressed by your defense of "grace" over "law".

Theology is for another forum.  This is facts on the ground.  Muslims are killing people, Christians aren't.  Period.  I hate to have to come to the staunch defense of Bill Maher, but he's totally correct on this point.

[mmhmm]

Sept 15, 2014 8:23:22 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 13, 2014 20:37:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the OT is typically used as a mallet to beat people down, even in liberal Christian protestantism.

forgive me if i am singularly unimpressed by your defense of "grace" over "law".

Theology is for another forum.  This is facts on the ground.  Muslims are killing people, Christians aren't.  Period.  I hate to have to come to the staunch defense of Bill Maher, but he's totally correct on this point.

I hope you're aware that not all of those who have joined these terrorists are Muslims ...

[djAdvocate]

Sept 15, 2014 8:23:22 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 13, 2014 20:37:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the OT is typically used as a mallet to beat people down, even in liberal Christian protestantism.

forgive me if i am singularly unimpressed by your defense of "grace" over "law".

Theology is for another forum.  This is facts on the ground.  Muslims are killing people, Christians aren't.  Period. 

bullshit.  period.  there have been plenty of terrorist groups populated with Christians, there still are a few, and there will be in the future.

I hate to have to come to the staunch defense of Bill Maher, but he's totally correct on this point.

he is totally missing the point.  ISIS is no more Islam than WBC is Christianity.