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Post by thyme4change on Sept 10, 2014 20:42:43 GMT -5
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Post by justme on Sept 10, 2014 20:53:07 GMT -5
It'd be better news if guys weren't so damn paranoid about sharp things near their goodies. I know I've mentioned it, or something like this, to guys mentioning wanting bc and they seemed horrified at the idea of bc involving a needle there.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Sept 10, 2014 21:01:07 GMT -5
It sounds like a viable concept - and women seem to have always had to carry the burden of taking responsibility & precautions for the most part - the pill, or other contraceptive methods inserted into the girly-bits, etc). Condoms are even less reliable than the pill - if and when they're actually used AND used properly - and even then they can be torn or tampered with.
This is also a non-invasive method of B/C for men to start taking responsibility for unwanted pregnancies - and it's also easily reversible , if and when the time comes for someone wanting to reproduce.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 10, 2014 21:03:38 GMT -5
It'd be better news if guys weren't so damn paranoid about sharp things near their goodies. I know I've mentioned it, or something like this, to guys mentioning wanting bc and they seemed horrified at the idea of bc involving a needle there. Yes, some men certainly are like that. But, there are a lot of guys who are willing to do the deed to save themselves the hassle of being a teenaged dad. I bet it is no more painful than a pap smear.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Sept 10, 2014 21:03:54 GMT -5
Hmmm...this is interesting. This would have been convenient for DH. He had a vasectomy during his first marriage. Then, he wanted to reverse it when we got married they told us there was less than a 40% chance it would be successful. I wonder if that will be a good plan for it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:13:21 GMT -5
Couldn't they do something similar for women for birth control. Just a bit of gel to block the egg from coming down the tube. No hormones, no foreign objects stuck in you, you don't have to remember to take it at a certain time each day or it's ineffective...
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Post by justme on Sept 10, 2014 21:49:37 GMT -5
It'd be better news if guys weren't so damn paranoid about sharp things near their goodies. I know I've mentioned it, or something like this, to guys mentioning wanting bc and they seemed horrified at the idea of bc involving a needle there. Yes, some men certainly are like that. But, there are a lot of guys who are willing to do the deed to save themselves the hassle of being a teenaged dad. I bet it is no more painful than a pap smear. Oh I think they're idiots. But from the guys I know, it's very rare for someone to be up for that, at least in their 20s. Most can't even contemplate a hypothetical vasectomy after they've had all the kids they want. It's met with a NO she can tie her tubes even after being told it's much worse for females. On my side, I'd love it as a screen. A guy willing to do that while dating I'm sure would be ok with that or vasectomy in perpetuity.
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Post by quince on Sept 10, 2014 22:51:13 GMT -5
My husband pointed this out to me a couple of years ago- I think it was in India where it was successfully tested? He's all for it. Better than surgery.
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Post by marvholly on Sept 11, 2014 4:56:38 GMT -5
I just read about this today. I don't think I would be so totally trusting if a guy told me he had had this. I would still want to take my own precautions. WAAAY too many guys would prevaricate just to bed the gal.
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Post by truthbound on Sept 11, 2014 5:07:54 GMT -5
I woul suggest using Stephen Colbert's Formula 402. Side effects are nut shrinkage and making sure you can control your babies daddies.
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Post by achelois on Sept 11, 2014 7:10:47 GMT -5
I just read about this today. I don't think I would be so totally trusting if a guy told me he had had this. I would still want to take my own precautions. WAAAY too many guys would prevaricate just to bed the gal. I would still use my own BC, if I were younger, also, but it would be nice for guys to help ensure they would not be "trapped" by those hordes of unscrupulous women out there into paying child support.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 11, 2014 8:14:10 GMT -5
Yes, some men certainly are like that. But, there are a lot of guys who are willing to do the deed to save themselves the hassle of being a teenaged dad. I bet it is no more painful than a pap smear. Oh I think they're idiots. But from the guys I know, it's very rare for someone to be up for that, at least in their 20s. Most can't even contemplate a hypothetical vasectomy after they've had all the kids they want. It's met with a NO she can tie her tubes even after being told it's much worse for females. On my side, I'd love it as a screen. A guy willing to do that while dating I'm sure would be ok with that or vasectomy in perpetuity. Well, there are like 50 million men who have had vasectomies or something like that - so someone is cool with it. Also, I'm sure if you are in a group and talking about men's balls and one guy gets all crazy protective, the other guys are going to either back him up or stay silent.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 11, 2014 8:17:04 GMT -5
I just read about this today. I don't think I would be so totally trusting if a guy told me he had had this. I would still want to take my own precautions. WAAAY too many guys would prevaricate just to bed the gal. Absolutely. I will tell my daughter to never believe this, and make sure she is using her own preventative measures. I will give this to my son because accidents happen, pills become less effective if you take an antibiotic, condoms slip, people forget, etc., etc. If my son is forced to use a condom (because she doesn't believe him) and he had this procedure and the woman is taking the pill - all the better.
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Post by TheHaitian on Sept 11, 2014 8:57:14 GMT -5
I just read about this today. I don't think I would be so totally trusting if a guy told me he had had this. I would still want to take my own precautions. WAAAY too many guys would prevaricate just to bed the gal. If you are still in that "early" stage of the relationship you should be using a "condom". BC methods do not protect against STD's and aids. I believe folks should only be concerned about BC method with their partner once they are in a monogamous relationship, until then use condoms.
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Post by justme on Sept 11, 2014 10:00:28 GMT -5
Oh I think they're idiots. But from the guys I know, it's very rare for someone to be up for that, at least in their 20s. Most can't even contemplate a hypothetical vasectomy after they've had all the kids they want. It's met with a NO she can tie her tubes even after being told it's much worse for females. On my side, I'd love it as a screen. A guy willing to do that while dating I'm sure would be ok with that or vasectomy in perpetuity. Well, there are like 50 million men who have had vasectomies or something like that - so someone is cool with it. Also, I'm sure if you are in a group and talking about men's balls and one guy gets all crazy protective, the other guys are going to either back him up or stay silent. True. Though I'd wager a very small number of the 50 million were teenagers or in their 20s when they had the procedure done. And it's come up in conversation where there were a few guys and some where it was only one or two and they were close friends. Actually, I think it came up one-on-one with a guy or two I was dating and their response was no, why can't I just take a pill. Maybe when the option is sitting right in front of them where they can avoid any oops babies maybe, hopefully, they'll change their tune.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Sept 11, 2014 10:03:03 GMT -5
I just read about this today. I don't think I would be so totally trusting if a guy told me he had had this. I would still want to take my own precautions. WAAAY too many guys would prevaricate just to bed the gal. Absolutely. I will tell my daughter to never believe this, and make sure she is using her own preventative measures. I will give this to my son because accidents happen, pills become less effective if you take an antibiotic, condoms slip, people forget, etc., etc. If my son is forced to use a condom (because she doesn't believe him) and he had this procedure and the woman is taking the pill - all the better. Please make sure they are still using condoms. This won't help prevent STDs at all.
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Post by DagnyT on Sept 11, 2014 13:58:33 GMT -5
When I first heard about this two years ago, I told my son (who was 14 at the time) and my husband that my son needed to do this when it is available. They both just winced. I told them that a bit of numbing solution should take care of the pain, and if not, well, being a dad while in college and having to pay child support for 18 years, if you don't marry the girl, is much more painful. Since my son will be 18 before it is available, he will get to make that decision for himself, but the powers of parental persuasion will definitely be turned on.
Also, I agree that everyone not in a committed relationship should use a condom even if both of them are using birth control. Heck, even those in a committed relationship might want to; you never know if someone has become uncommitted on the sly.
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Post by Angel! on Sept 11, 2014 17:37:19 GMT -5
Couldn't they do something similar for women for birth control. Just a bit of gel to block the egg from coming down the tube. No hormones, no foreign objects stuck in you, you don't have to remember to take it at a certain time each day or it's ineffective... The one they have now that blocks your tubes is permanent. They put little inserts in your tubes & then they scar over. I wonder if they have researched a non-permanent version.
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Post by gs11rmb on Sept 12, 2014 9:33:00 GMT -5
Couldn't they do something similar for women for birth control. Just a bit of gel to block the egg from coming down the tube. No hormones, no foreign objects stuck in you, you don't have to remember to take it at a certain time each day or it's ineffective... The one they have now that blocks your tubes is permanent. They put little inserts in your tubes & then they scar over. I wonder if they have researched a non-permanent version. I had that done after my youngest daughter was born. Easy procedure and easy recovery with no pain - much less invasive than a vasectomy! Only downside is you have to wait until the scar tissue forms and that can take about 3 months.
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