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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 7:56:26 GMT -5
I had to wear my poker face a couple of weeks ago in the grocery store. The people checking out in front of me were buying a lot of food from the bakery and deli with their EBT card; i.e., cake, taco dip, bbq chicken wings, etc. In fact, I think their whole purchase was stuff like that. Ummmm . . . . . I make my own.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 7, 2014 9:48:27 GMT -5
Doesn't it kill you to see that? It should be like WIC, healthy and nourishing. Fresh fruit and vegetables, or canned at the very least. Bread, milk or a milk substitute, pasta and sauce, meat, chicken, fish, but nothing frozen. Baked goods? No way. Candy, soda? No way.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 7, 2014 9:49:19 GMT -5
But for heavens sake include tp, paper towels, cleaning supplies, feminine hygiene stuff.
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Post by Opti on Sept 7, 2014 10:44:09 GMT -5
TMR is nice to have at least someone agree with me and understand my issues don't change just because I'm currently poorer.
I grew up drinking an 6 to 8oz glass of juice and the occasional soda as my Dad would buy a case or two of 1 to 2 liter glass bottles of soda at a beverage distributer. Things I generally don't drink, or go on the EBT card, include milk, soy milk, and coffee.
BTW, I love fresh squeezed lemonade... yum... <--------------------------------------------------- happy squeezed lemon!
I grew up drinking water, milk or kool aid. During my 2nd marriage, my husband was a control freak, and we could only drink water (if he was around). BLAH! I think it's important to get enough fluids, no matter what it's in. Esp. in the hot weather. Your economic status doesn't change my opinion. I'm just being me. <--------------------------------------------------- happy squeezed lemon! I love me some lemonade! Ü Sleep well, and Enjoy your day tomorrow. I love your lemon BTW. I barely slept, my sinus infection is almost totally locked in my body, i.e. not draining so its going to be a rough rest of the day and possibly tough to make to my next day off which is next Monday the 9/15.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 7, 2014 11:22:54 GMT -5
Doesn't it kill you to see that? It should be like WIC, healthy and nourishing. Fresh fruit and vegetables, or canned at the very least. Bread, milk or a milk substitute, pasta and sauce, meat, chicken, fish, but nothing frozen. Baked goods? No way. Candy, soda? No way. I'd also like to see more restrictions on what SNAP/EBT can be used for. My understanding is that it's not supposed to be an eternal handout, but a helping hand up, to enable the users to spend their money on what the program will not cover. In other words, you buy the fresh and healthy basics with the program and your earned money pays for other things. I could see the idea of extending it to basic hygiene and cleaning supplies. Having those things matters. If you are going to better yourself, you have to improve all of you, your surroundings included. While in Chicago, I noticed all the farmers' markets accepted SNAP. I thought that was cool. Fresh food grown by locals, bought by locals and done so affordably.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 7, 2014 12:17:42 GMT -5
Put me in the category of not wanting to pay for this. Water is a healthy choice. I get that some places have water that tastes bad, for $5.00 you can find a Brita filter that will get you 3 months of filtered water. The fact that you don't want to drink water "plain" is an acquired taste. just like I "need " sugar in my coffee. Fact is, if sugar isn't readily available, I don't give up my cup of coffee. A dozen years ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Then we moved to a house on a well where the water was so hard the amount of softener salt needed made it taste really nasty. I had a brita pitcher, bought a PUR pitcher, and even had a $300 filtration system installed under our kitchen sink. That made the cooking water ok, but I still couldn't drink it. I'm an environmentalist who washed DD's cloth diapers and use cloth napkins. It kills me to buy bottled water, but there are places where whats available may be safe to drink, but it tastes too nasty to drink much.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 7, 2014 12:20:48 GMT -5
Opti - not to go too far off topic or derail the thread, but you've mentioned recurring sinus infections many times. 1. Have you tried a netti pot? = LIFESAVER!!! 2. Have you discussed this with a specialist? My mother, after years of suffering, was finally diagnosed with a chronic fungal (not bacterial) infection that took a completely different set of meds to clear things up.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Sept 7, 2014 12:24:51 GMT -5
I worked as a cashier in HS and a summer beyond that... I never paid attention to what kind of card people paid with. The only time I ever noticed was if they asked about which button to push or pushed the wrong one.
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Post by Opti on Sept 7, 2014 14:18:49 GMT -5
Opti - not to go too far off topic or derail the thread, but you've mentioned recurring sinus infections many times. 1. Have you tried a netti pot? = LIFESAVER!!! 2. Have you discussed this with a specialist? My mother, after years of suffering, was finally diagnosed with a chronic fungal (not bacterial) infection that took a completely different set of meds to clear things up. 1) Yes, I own one. I started using it again on Thursday. 2) No. I go to a clinic now and haven't had time to check out providers that accept Medicaid.
Part of my issue is a physical one. My nose still has a ski slope passage in spite of sinus surgery about 10 years ago. It will always be easier for me to get a sinus infection all things being equal compared to someone with normal nose internals. In addition, the fact that I live by myself and don't have gas money to go to church or visit with folks means I don't have someone besides myself to remind me things I should be doing like taking Mucinex, using the Neti pot, etc.
ETA: I forgot to worry about my nose tissues drying up with more exposure to A/C, so too low humidity was also a factor in drying up infected mucous in my nose. (Last week I worked 4 days at my temp job. This week I'm scheduled for 5 days, 30 hours. Walking to and from my street parked car in significant heat. Things add up.)
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Post by toomuchreality on Sept 7, 2014 14:19:09 GMT -5
I grew up drinking water, milk or kool aid. During my 2nd marriage, my husband was a control freak, and we could only drink water (if he was around). BLAH! I think it's important to get enough fluids, no matter what it's in. Esp. in the hot weather. Your economic status doesn't change my opinion. I'm just being me. <--------------------------------------------------- happy squeezed lemon! I love me some lemonade! Ü Sleep well, and Enjoy your day tomorrow. I love your lemon BTW. I barely slept, my sinus infection is almost totally locked in my body, i.e. not draining so its going to be a rough rest of the day and possibly tough to make to my next day off which is next Monday the 9/15. Your sinus infection sounds terrible. Luckily I haven't had much problem with them. My sister, and some of my friends do though and they all swear by those netty pots The Captain mentioned. I hope you get feeling better soon! I have also lived on well water in the past. It's a different experience, for sure. ENJOY!
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Post by Opti on Sept 7, 2014 14:26:09 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm on city water, but it is hard and has significant suspended minerals/solids. Its what killed off my Koi before I figured it out with internet advice.
I hand wash dishes generally instead of using my small dishwasher in part because I don't like the spotted glasses I get even when I use Jet Dry. (My Dad has well water and needs $10 to 15K of well work done. Now that's some nasty scary water!)
Oh, I forgot about the Koolaid. That was a big part of my childhood along with Tang and Nesquik.
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Post by teen persuasion on Sept 7, 2014 14:56:24 GMT -5
Water stores? Seriously!? Now I've heard everything.
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Post by Opti on Sept 7, 2014 15:59:53 GMT -5
If you guys live in places with really funky water do you have water stores near you? The one next to me charges $1.05 for three gallons. His water is pretty good. Way cheaper than buying stuff to in your water, and far healthier. I don't think so. What the heck is a water store and how do you find them? At my first house we did buy some bottled water. Here I just get by with filters unless a buy $15 of groceries get 24 pack of water deal comes up at the right time.
Interestingly north of me in Morris County, Parsippany is known for their water. There's also a state park north and west of me which allows people to bring up to 6 gallon jugs to fill with water. I did do that once when I lived in my first home.
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Post by saveinla on Sept 7, 2014 16:41:58 GMT -5
We have very hard water and have stores for water on almost every corner . We also have the huge glacier water purifiers near every major store - costs 25-30c a gallon. We have 2 to 3 - 3 gallon jars that we fill up every week. It's a pain, but it's the best tasting water around here - beats even bottled water.
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Post by Opti on Sept 7, 2014 16:50:36 GMT -5
Slightly OT, but just opened a letter that told me I've been assigned a Medicaid provider. Looks like my guess that I had until around 8/18 was correct.
So now to call them and meet with potential primary physicians. If I don't find one I like apparently I can switch to one of the other 3 HMO choices within 90 days.
(I wonder if section 8 housing will appear in my snail mailbox soon too?)
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 7, 2014 18:43:34 GMT -5
We have very hard water and have stores for water on almost every corner . We also have the huge glacier water purifiers near every major store - costs 25-30c a gallon. We have 2 to 3 - 3 gallon jars that we fill up every week. It's a pain, but it's the best tasting water around here - beats even bottled water. We have those glacier water dispensers at every grocery store also. I think they are .40 cents a gallon. People come in and buy it like crazy. I don't care most of the time because I know on any given week I'm sure my grocery cart looks pretty bad too. the only time I have ever noticed was when someone's cart looked like the quintesential YM EBT users cart. It was literally only soda, chips and crab legs. I actually thought as I was ringing it up that if it was paid for with food stamps YM would have a cow and sure enough the little writing under EFT said EBT.
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Post by teen persuasion on Sept 7, 2014 22:40:13 GMT -5
Water stores? Seriously!? Now I've heard everything. It's a little store, usually in a strip mall next to grocery stores that consists entirely of big heavy duty triple filtration units and spouts that dispense basically bottled water. They usually sell PVC/PVA free 1,3,and 5 gallon water bottles as well. They're all over in the southwest. Southwest probably explains it. I'm living between 2 Great lakes. We've got lots of water. And NY would tax it like gas, most likely.
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Post by toomuchreality on Sept 8, 2014 0:29:25 GMT -5
It's a little store, usually in a strip mall next to grocery stores that consists entirely of big heavy duty triple filtration units and spouts that dispense basically bottled water. They usually sell PVC/PVA free 1,3,and 5 gallon water bottles as well. They're all over in the southwest. Southwest probably explains it. I'm living between 2 Great lakes. We've got lots of water. And NY would tax it like gas, most likely. I've never seen them in the West either.
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Post by mamasita99 on Sept 8, 2014 5:22:15 GMT -5
Water stores? Seriously!? Now I've heard everything. It's a little store, usually in a strip mall next to grocery stores that consists entirely of big heavy duty triple filtration units and spouts that dispense basically bottled water. They usually sell PVC/PVA free 1,3,and 5 gallon water bottles as well. They're all over in the southwest. I had one of those stores right by my old house. I had some pretty brutal days teaching, I used to dream of quitting and getting a job at the water store. Just filling water jugs, in a cool, clean, quiet store.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:15:59 GMT -5
Crystal Geyser bottles here in Mt. Shasta City. I live just 30 miles away, but the local mineralization zone means I have a ton of contamination in my well water, not to mention iron and heavy metals out the bungholio. I have to filter the arsenic and heavy metals, and I also have an iron specific filter, but all the filtration does is take my muddy water and make it a bit less toxic. Then I have to soften it with a ton of salt so we can run a water heater. My water ends up fine for heating and using for bathing, not so much for drinking. I buy water and get interesting looks if I buy it down in the town where it is bottled. Here bottled water isn't optional if you don't want to be ill.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 8, 2014 10:03:41 GMT -5
But for heavens sake include tp, paper towels, cleaning supplies, feminine hygiene stuff
I'm guessing Kotex and Charmin don't have powerful lobbyists like Hershey, Kraft and Coke.
I totally agree that crap shouldn't be available on EBT, but we're not the ones who are lining politician's pockets. EBT and WIC are HUGE cash cows for these companies. That's why you now see restaurants taking EBT, their lobbyists wanted a slice of the pie too.
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Post by Firebird on Sept 8, 2014 10:54:03 GMT -5
Personally, I still can't believe that EBT covers fast food. What the hell is the point of that?
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Post by Firebird on Sept 8, 2014 10:55:54 GMT -5
Oh, and I could be wrong but I don't think soda does your body any good as "liquid intake." Isn't diet soda a diuretic? Meaning it actually dehydrates you?
I drink at least 3 liters of water per day on weekdays. Usually four (which is more than a gallon). It's not that hard. You get used to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 10:58:00 GMT -5
Oh, and I could be wrong but I don't think soda does your body any good as "liquid intake." Isn't diet soda a diuretic? Meaning it actually dehydrates you? I drink at least 3 liters of water per day on weekdays. Usually four (which is more than a gallon). It's not that hard. You get used to it. It must count as something or I'd be dead.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 8, 2014 11:01:44 GMT -5
Personally, I still can't believe that EBT covers fast food. What the hell is the point of that
Well the feel good marketing spin is that people live in "food deserts" but will have a McD's nearby and need a hot meal so they should be able to get one.
In reality it's the fast food lobbyists saw how much money companies like Kraft and Coke are racking in by being included in the EBT program and they wanted a piece of that cash cow.
So they lined some politician's pockets and got what they wanted. Business as usual in Washington.
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Post by Firebird on Sept 8, 2014 11:01:47 GMT -5
It must count as something or I'd be dead. There's water in food too I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that a gallon of diet soda per day is equivalent to a gallon of water a day in terms of liquid intake. Personally, I just find diet soda butt-nasty. One of my colleagues drinks like 4-5 bottles of the stuff per day and I seriously don't know how he manages to choke down that much
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 8, 2014 11:03:32 GMT -5
It must count as something or I'd be dead. There's water in food too I'm no expert but I seriously doubt that a gallon of diet soda per day is equivalent to a gallon of water a day in terms of liquid intake. Pretty close to it, though.
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 8, 2014 11:41:09 GMT -5
Personally, I still can't believe that EBT covers fast food. What the hell is the point of thatWell the feel good marketing spin is that people live in "food deserts" but will have a McD's nearby and need a hot meal so they should be able to get one. In reality it's the fast food lobbyists saw how much money companies like Kraft and Coke are racking in by being included in the EBT program and they wanted a piece of that cash cow. So they lined some politician's pockets and got what they wanted. Business as usual in Washington. My friend who works at the county social services office says it was a lawsuit for some homeless people that changed the law to allow some EBT recipients to use their EBT benefits at places like McD's. the point being a homeless person can't exactly buy a raw potato and hamburgers and bring them home and cook them under the bridge they live under so buying already prepared food is basically a must for them. I don't think it is allowed for every recipient though. Most here in NJ can't use their benefits for prepared food, which I now know because the GC sells some prepared food and it almost always bumps and says they have to pay with cash/debit card for those non eligible purchases. But every now and then someone will use an EBT food card to buy a rotisserie chicken dinner and it goes through. So they must get a special exemption or something.
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Post by sesfw on Sept 8, 2014 11:47:08 GMT -5
Water stores? Seriously!? Now I've heard everything.
Here in the Phoenix area the stores are called Water n' Ice.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 8, 2014 11:47:22 GMT -5
I saw Papa Murphy's waving a giant banner in front of their store saying they now accepted EBT a couple years ago. WTF? The argument was that fast food had to be included like you said because some people can't go home and cook food themselves. You have to "take and bake" Papa Murphy's. My brain short circuited as I was driving by, I figured they must have one hell of a lobbyist.
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