If you found a dead guy...

[snapdragon]

Sept 4, 2014 12:43:50 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

::Where could he load his video to show people that wouldn't be disrespectful? Very few places and it would need to be carefully done if at all. A documentary that treats the subject with the appropriate level of respect would be one venue, possibly a short film on his own website or blog - again, done respectfully - might be appropriate. Might be. ::

I'm more ok with the idea that it's never ok than the idea that it may or may not be ok depending on how much money you have to spend to show the video (youtube vs your own website). 

Generally though, my opinion is "It's a dead body, who cares?".  Videotape me being dead all you like, dress me up like a clown in funny and disturbing poses...what do I care?

As in "prop you up beside the jukebox when you die" or weekend at Bernies?  

[hoops902]

You can defile my corpse in any way that you see fit.  If I'm in a coma even better so it can be recorded and shown to me later...though if it's just a coma preferably nothing that would cause future-me any issues (like please don't cut off an arm or something if I'm still technically alive).

[milee]

Sept 4, 2014 12:43:50 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

Generally though, my opinion is "It's a dead body, who cares?".  Videotape me being dead all you like, dress me up like a clown in funny and disturbing poses...what do I care?

The funny thing is that I completely agree with you on this one.  But I'm socially aware enough to understand that our view on this subject is very uncommon and that most people would consider casual treatment of a dead relative or friend as extremely disrespectful.  So knowing that this is something that has a high potential to hurt someone's feelings or offend them, it's best to play it safe and be respectful.

My oldest son and I were talking about dying the other day.  He asked where I wanted to be buried.  Buried?!?  That's expensive as heck and they fill you full of toxic chemicals that will eventually leech out into the environment - the last thing I want is to be buried.  I explained that when it comes time to dispose of my body, I don't want them to (IMHO) waste much money on the process and I'd love it if I could be put to use one last time.  So here were my top suggestions:

1)  Donate any usable organs and then donate the rest to medical science.  I'm fine with med students dissecting me and will probably write up a funny letter about how I got the various scars and broken bones and explain to them that I've lived a very, very good life and hope them the best in their medical career.  Not only is that useful but it's free.  Love it.

2)  If they can get away with it, I'd be fine with being composted in the yard.  It would be nice to fertilize a tree.  Again, free and useful.  Like it.

3)  Viking funeral.  Not as useful, but free and terribly fun.  However, they're not allowed to burn any of my boats, so when I die, they'll first need to build me a raft out of popsicle sticks so that can be the "boat" that gets lit on fire. 

Yeah, I realize none of this is mainstream, so I only discuss it with my family to avoid freaking out the neighbors.

[cktc]

Sept 4, 2014 14:06:19 GMT -5 milee said:

But I'm socially aware enough to understand that our view on this subject is very uncommon and that most people would consider casual treatment of a dead relative or friend as extremely disrespectful.

Society might feel this way when it is their own friend or family, but I know a lot of people who didn't think twice about watching the video where Tony Stewart hits Kevin Ward Jr. Things like this pop up in news feeds all the time. It is strange to me that it has gotten to a point where videos of people being killed are not only publicly available, but readily presented to anyone who might be curious.

[michelyn8]

Sept 4, 2014 14:06:19 GMT -5 milee said:

Sept 4, 2014 12:43:50 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

Generally though, my opinion is "It's a dead body, who cares?".  Videotape me being dead all you like, dress me up like a clown in funny and disturbing poses...what do I care?

The funny thing is that I completely agree with you on this one.  But I'm socially aware enough to understand that our view on this subject is very uncommon and that most people would consider casual treatment of a dead relative or friend as extremely disrespectful.  So knowing that this is something that has a high potential to hurt someone's feelings or offend them, it's best to play it safe and be respectful.

My oldest son and I were talking about dying the other day.  He asked where I wanted to be buried.  Buried?!?  That's expensive as heck and they fill you full of toxic chemicals that will eventually leech out into the environment - the last thing I want is to be buried.  I explained that when it comes time to dispose of my body, I don't want them to (IMHO) waste much money on the process and I'd love it if I could be put to use one last time.  So here were my top suggestions:

1)  Donate any usable organs and then donate the rest to medical science.  I'm fine with med students dissecting me and will probably write up a funny letter about how I got the various scars and broken bones and explain to them that I've lived a very, very good life and hope them the best in their medical career.  Not only is that useful but it's free.  Love it.

2)  If they can get away with it, I'd be fine with being composted in the yard.  It would be nice to fertilize a tree.  Again, free and useful.  Like it.

3)  Viking funeral.  Not as useful, but free and terribly fun.  However, they're not allowed to burn any of my boats, so when I die, they'll first need to build me a raft out of popsicle sticks so that can be the "boat" that gets lit on fire. 

Yeah, I realize none of this is mainstream, so I only discuss it with my family to avoid freaking out the neighbors.

Were you aware that you can elect for a burial without being embalmed?  My aunt chose to do this and may have chosen it for my uncle when she made his arrangements (he passed away about 8 months before she did in 2010). 

[milee]

Sept 4, 2014 14:51:29 GMT -5 michelyn8 said:

Sept 4, 2014 14:06:19 GMT -5 milee said:

The funny thing is that I completely agree with you on this one.  But I'm socially aware enough to understand that our view on this subject is very uncommon and that most people would consider casual treatment of a dead relative or friend as extremely disrespectful.  So knowing that this is something that has a high potential to hurt someone's feelings or offend them, it's best to play it safe and be respectful.

My oldest son and I were talking about dying the other day.  He asked where I wanted to be buried.  Buried?!?  That's expensive as heck and they fill you full of toxic chemicals that will eventually leech out into the environment - the last thing I want is to be buried.  I explained that when it comes time to dispose of my body, I don't want them to (IMHO) waste much money on the process and I'd love it if I could be put to use one last time.  So here were my top suggestions:

1)  Donate any usable organs and then donate the rest to medical science.  I'm fine with med students dissecting me and will probably write up a funny letter about how I got the various scars and broken bones and explain to them that I've lived a very, very good life and hope them the best in their medical career.  Not only is that useful but it's free.  Love it.

2)  If they can get away with it, I'd be fine with being composted in the yard.  It would be nice to fertilize a tree.  Again, free and useful.  Like it.

3)  Viking funeral.  Not as useful, but free and terribly fun.  However, they're not allowed to burn any of my boats, so when I die, they'll first need to build me a raft out of popsicle sticks so that can be the "boat" that gets lit on fire. 

Yeah, I realize none of this is mainstream, so I only discuss it with my family to avoid freaking out the neighbors.

Were you aware that you can elect for a burial without being embalmed?  My aunt chose to do this and may have chosen it for my uncle when she made his arrangements (he passed away about 8 months before she did in 2010). 

In some places you can and in others - thanks to the funeral director's lobby - you can't.  I wouldn't mind being buried without being embalmed if they just wrap me in a simple cloth (I've got plenty of spare sails, they can use one of those!) and bury me in the yard.  Alas, not legal in most areas.  But no thanks to an expensive headstone or putting me somewhere that people will have to maintain in perpetuity and can never do anything else with the land.

[Nazgul Girl]

   I would like my remains to not be filmed ( privacy ), and my first choice for disposal of my corpse would be cremation with no casket, just a simple shroud.   My second choice would be to either be buried in a shroud, or a casket made of willow.   

   funerals.naturalburialcompany.com/categories/Shrouds%2C-Liners-and-Burial-Garments/

   www.familyfuneralservice.net/coffins-and-caskets/non-traditional-coffins/


Just cremate me so that my atoms can return to the Universe, or put me in the ground in something that is quiet and will have a minimum impact on the earth.    I don't need the brass handles and the fine mahogany casket.  

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Sept 3, 2014 16:56:11 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I'm not sure what his point was in posting this to Youtube, actually, and I think it would be upsetting to the dead guy's family.

Of course, I don't know why people upload pictures of their lunch onto Facebook, either.

I guess I am a dinosaur.

The word you're looking for is "Troglodyte." I'm married to one.

[mollyc]

FWIW, the father of the deceased is very unhappy about this.


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Sept 3, 2014 15:12:22 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

The guy that posted it was originally recording his trip to the festival and this happened. That is how he happened to record it. It didn't occur to me it was disrespectful. Actually I was thinking how much better he was than me, I would have left the guys passed out on the sidewalk and not even checked on them. Just a couple of drunks on a long weekend...

I'd never leave someone passed-out on the sidewalk - I would at the very least, call 9-1-1.

Someone passed out on the sidewalk could be experiencing a number of medical emergencies - diabetic insulin shock, heart attack, seizure, etc.

Since I have a seizure disorder, I'd hate to think of someone just leaving me "passed-out" on the sidewalk without checking or at the very least, picking up their cell & calling for medical assistance.

[bobosensei]

To me what is most disrespectful is the fact that a family member or loved one could find out about the death that way.  I mean how would you feel if some jackass in the neighborhood posted a video of one of your close friends of family members dead body, and you come across the information because someone reposts it or sends it to you asking if it is true or how you are doing.  In the days of immediate information where everyone is connected all the time this could definitely happen.  

Edited to add- I just read the link someone posted and it turns out that the son did watch the video not knowing it had his dad's body in it.