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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 15:04:52 GMT -5
and happened to be recording at the time it happened 'cause you have a blog and were actually headed out to a festival, would you post the video on Youtube? That happened here. The face of the deceased was blacked out but the experience of finding him and realising he was dead was recorded. I knew the deceased and watched the video and felt nothing but sadness for him. Others freaked out that someone would post that video. They called it traumatizing and disrespectful. The video was very clearly labelled and you knew what you would see if you watched it.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 3, 2014 15:07:19 GMT -5
I have never posted a video on youtube so no
ETA: And I do think it is disrespectful. Like POM said I might record it for police evidence or something but I am not really sure why anyone would post something like that online.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Sept 3, 2014 15:07:31 GMT -5
Yikes! People will post anything on YouTube these days. Trying to get enough hits to equal some $$.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Sept 3, 2014 15:08:07 GMT -5
What did you do?! I don't have anything that would record something if happened upon like that, however, if I did have a smart phone (or whatever people carry with them) I might do the recording in case the body were to disappear when I got the hell out of there. I would not post it on YouTube or anything like and it's not just because I wouldn't know how. I just wouldn't. Sorry you lost your friend and they were disrespected like that.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 3, 2014 15:08:13 GMT -5
People are attention whores. I agree, it was disrespectful to post it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 3, 2014 15:08:16 GMT -5
I've never posted on YouTube either.
If I did end up with a video of a dead guy on my phone I'd probably be too busy freaking my shit to think about posting it anywhere to share.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 3, 2014 15:11:39 GMT -5
Amen. Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 15:12:22 GMT -5
The guy that posted it was originally recording his trip to the festival and this happened. That is how he happened to record it. It didn't occur to me it was disrespectful. Actually I was thinking how much better he was than me, I would have left the guys passed out on the sidewalk and not even checked on them. Just a couple of drunks on a long weekend...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 15:13:08 GMT -5
And he was freaking his shit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 15:16:02 GMT -5
His wife and him called 911 and stayed until the corpse was taken care of.
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Post by milee on Sept 3, 2014 15:17:04 GMT -5
The recording doesn't seem disrespectful, since it doesn't appear he planned to find a dead person. But IMHO uploading the video to Youtube is rude because it's treating the event (and also the person) with the same weight one would treat footage of a waterskiing squirrel or some other banal frivolity. The "venue" is part of the problem.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 3, 2014 15:17:09 GMT -5
Thank heavens.
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Post by souldoubt on Sept 3, 2014 15:20:40 GMT -5
I read the thread title and the first sentence so my apologies. Post deleted.
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Post by greeniis10 on Sept 3, 2014 15:21:13 GMT -5
This past winter I pulled into the parking lot at work (I get here about 6:45 AM and am the only one in the building for about an hour or so most days) and there was a person completely wrapped up in a sleeping bag lying the the sidewalk right in front of my door. I turned my truck lights on and off a couple of times then opened and closed my door, hoping the noise would arouse them. No dice. So I stepped over him/her and went into my office. I figured it was a homeless person as we are near the train tracks and have a lot of transients pass through here daily, but I called the police just in case the person was dead. Thankfully, he was just a drunk, passed out homeless person and the cops stayed until he gathered his things and left. Never once did it ever cross my mind to film it or take pictures. Then again, I live in the dark ages and still (willingly) carry a flip phone.
Laterbloomer, sorry for your loss.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 3, 2014 16:13:19 GMT -5
The recording doesn't seem disrespectful, since it doesn't appear he planned to find a dead person. But IMHO uploading the video to Youtube is rude because it's treating the event (and also the person) with the same weight one would treat footage of a waterskiing squirrel or some other banal frivolity. The "venue" is part of the problem.
Where could he load his video to show people that wouldn't be disrespectful? I get the feeling that different people view these kinds of venues differently. You (and I really) view Youtube as a place for random dumb videos. I'd guess plenty of people view it as a way to get their message out in video form. IMO if he treated it all respectfully, I'm not sure the fact that he chose Youtube to host it actually says anything one way or the other. It seems wrong somehow to tell someone they can only put their message out if they have access to a better medium (like a short film being produced and shown in a theater, or a personal site where you post your ideas...even then some of those ideas could be comedy). Seems like it falls in with a bunch of other things. Is it rude if I post a Youtube video of my child graduating? That's clearly not the same weight as a waterskiing squirrel. What about a nice eulogy of a loved one? I think how it's handled is a lot more important than the venue (i.e. a title of "Life is Fleeting" vs "Look at this fucking dead guy")
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Post by Abby Normal on Sept 3, 2014 16:31:50 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding completely disrespectful... I read the title of this thread and the tune from fiddler on the roof popped in my head.
If I found a dead guy Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum. All day long I'd biddy biddy bum.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Sept 3, 2014 16:38:42 GMT -5
I just don't understand why it was necessary to post the video once he knew what it contained. It's not like this was something in the background that they didn't discover until later. He knew at the time he posted what it was.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 3, 2014 16:42:30 GMT -5
The recording doesn't seem disrespectful, since it doesn't appear he planned to find a dead person. But IMHO uploading the video to Youtube is rude because it's treating the event (and also the person) with the same weight one would treat footage of a waterskiing squirrel or some other banal frivolity. The "venue" is part of the problem.
This. Exactly.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 3, 2014 16:56:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure what his point was in posting this to Youtube, actually, and I think it would be upsetting to the dead guy's family.
Of course, I don't know why people upload pictures of their lunch onto Facebook, either.
I guess I am a dinosaur.
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Post by cktc on Sept 3, 2014 17:23:12 GMT -5
I find it very disturbing to watch videos of people being killed, but those are all over the place, so it doesn’t surprise me that someone might think it is ok to share footage of someone who is already dead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 18:57:34 GMT -5
This guy has a blog and I guess youtube is the video site he uses. He posts this stuff from his activities all the time so I guess to him it felt like he was sharing his experience with his "friends". I don't really know who subscribes to his blog, I don't. I saw it because a mutual friend that also knows the deceased shared it on her page as a way of informing us that the deceased had died.
Many of us in my city saw it and are talking about it. It has brought home to us that the homeless in our community do die in the streets and it is heartless to ignore their plight. This gentleman died a block from a very active street festival happening on the weekend. Possibly if someone else had called 911 when he first went down he would have lived. Maybe.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Sept 3, 2014 19:04:07 GMT -5
When I was a kid, my cousin's and I were walking home from buying ice cream. A guy was laying in the alley. I smelled him once to see if he was drunk while the others went to a nearby office to call the police.
We never knew the guy was dead. The attending policeman said he would take care of him and we did not need to do anymore. That was enough for us. The cop took care of it so we were not traumatized. Some kind of psychologist visited with each one of us kids and we told the same story. The policeman took care of him. Not our problem anymore.
Now, would I post a video of a dead person? No. Photos of deceased at funerals are for family only.
There is a line of respect.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 3, 2014 19:04:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, later. It was kind of the gentleman who filmed to stay until someone arrived who could deal with the situation. I find it a bit disrespectful, however, to post something like that to YouTube. Friends can easily be told someone has passed away. They don't really need to see a film of the corpse, and one can't exactly find out how the corpse would have felt about something like that. Just something I would even consider doing.
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Post by milee on Sept 3, 2014 19:41:45 GMT -5
The recording doesn't seem disrespectful, since it doesn't appear he planned to find a dead person. But IMHO uploading the video to Youtube is rude because it's treating the event (and also the person) with the same weight one would treat footage of a waterskiing squirrel or some other banal frivolity. The "venue" is part of the problem.
Where could he load his video to show people that wouldn't be disrespectful? I get the feeling that different people view these kinds of venues differently. You (and I really) view Youtube as a place for random dumb videos. I'd guess plenty of people view it as a way to get their message out in video form. IMO if he treated it all respectfully, I'm not sure the fact that he chose Youtube to host it actually says anything one way or the other. It seems wrong somehow to tell someone they can only put their message out if they have access to a better medium (like a short film being produced and shown in a theater, or a personal site where you post your ideas...even then some of those ideas could be comedy). Seems like it falls in with a bunch of other things. Is it rude if I post a Youtube video of my child graduating? That's clearly not the same weight as a waterskiing squirrel. What about a nice eulogy of a loved one? I think how it's handled is a lot more important than the venue (i.e. a title of "Life is Fleeting" vs "Look at this fucking dead guy") Where could he load his video to show people that wouldn't be disrespectful? Very few places and it would need to be carefully done if at all. A documentary that treats the subject with the appropriate level of respect would be one venue, possibly a short film on his own website or blog - again, done respectfully - might be appropriate. Might be.
I think the choice of YouTube does say something. It implies this is casual and the subject of no great importance or that it's being shown for thrills without considering the feelings of the people involved. It's a little like showing up at a funeral in cutoff jeans and a stained wife beater, or better yet a swim suit - there's no way to do it tastefully and respectfully.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Sept 3, 2014 22:01:26 GMT -5
Did he post it on the general Youtube, or on his own Youtube channel?
The first is like posting it on the Google homepage -- anyone in the world can see it.
The latter, if my children have been telling me the truth, LOL, can be set to restricted viewing only by subscribers to your channel that you pre-approve -- sort of like Facebook.
Not that posting to either is necessarily respectful. It's really a question of the magnitude of that disrespect.
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Post by michelyn8 on Sept 4, 2014 9:27:01 GMT -5
This is one of my pet peeves with today's society. I can see recording it for the authorities to have as a reference when processing the scene but that's it. I don't think such things should be made public. We see enough in movies and TV shows. I also don't think the media should broadcast 911 calls. Why does the public need to hear that stuff? And I don't need to hear 30 different perspectives of the same situation from people who know someone related to the victim, perp, or either family. All of those views just muck things up and make the true story more difficult to determine if I even care to try.
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Post by snapdragon on Sept 4, 2014 11:52:55 GMT -5
I have found dead bodies. I would never even think of posting a video showing someone dead. It just seems very disrespectful.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 4, 2014 12:43:50 GMT -5
::Where could he load his video to show people that wouldn't be disrespectful? Very few places and it would need to be carefully done if at all. A documentary that treats the subject with the appropriate level of respect would be one venue, possibly a short film on his own website or blog - again, done respectfully - might be appropriate. Might be. ::
I'm more ok with the idea that it's never ok than the idea that it may or may not be ok depending on how much money you have to spend to show the video (youtube vs your own website).
Generally though, my opinion is "It's a dead body, who cares?". Videotape me being dead all you like, dress me up like a clown in funny and disturbing poses...what do I care?
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