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Post by billisonboard on Aug 29, 2014 8:25:13 GMT -5
... Do you ask your substitutes to actually teach? Our long-term subs are expected to, but not a daily sub. You are expected to leave seatwork of some sort that the sub can supervise. Three of my favorite days - all three the first time I was at that particular building: 1) K-12 artsy alternative ed school. I was walking in and a kid asked who I was there to cover. Told him and he said, "oh, you are going to be our vice principal." Usually that meant covering for someone else. Not that day. I was the vice principal in a school I knew nothing about. 2) Middle School special ed - lesson plan said "take attendance, take them down to the bus and go with them to the State Fair for the day." I went to the principal and told her I refused. She indicated that she had told the teacher to leave plans that I would supervise the kids left at school, which I ended up doing. 3) Middle School 3 hour block class - the first bell rang and the class got scary quiet. I waited. Then a kid said, "the last sub we had left, ... crying." I smiled, shook my head, and said "good luck." They tried. I just laughed. They gave up.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Aug 29, 2014 9:43:35 GMT -5
We'll, our base is ~$150/day not including benefits. Plus, the state requires at minimum a bachelors and a substitute teaching license.
In my building, I expect fairly decent work to be left for the kids. I do not allow feature films ever except during eng when they've read the book and are going to write a c/c paper. I'm okay with a documentary that applies to currently taught standards and note taking is required.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 10:50:51 GMT -5
We'll, our base is ~$150/day not including benefits. Plus, the state requires at minimum a bachelors and a substitute teaching license. In my building, I expect fairly decent work to be left for the kids. I do not allow feature films ever except during eng when they've read the book and are going to write a c/c paper. I'm okay with a documentary that applies to currently taught standards and note taking is required. That's good pay ($20 an hour); it is difficult to believe that you are having difficulty finding subs. Our district (not the state) also requires a college degree for our $70-$80. The state requires the sub license, which includes drug testing and a background check with fingerprinting done by the ABI. However, I hope even your beginning teachers earn more than $28,000 a year. They have to do the real work of the job.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Aug 29, 2014 11:23:56 GMT -5
I stay out of the salary stuff, but the contract I just signed off on for a teacher with a BS and one year of experience said that her salary is $31,500.
When I started ten years ago with a master's+5, no experience, my contract was for $39k for 190 days (that includes the paid holidays).
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Aug 29, 2014 14:55:34 GMT -5
Oh, and we're definitely in need of more regular substitutes. The county has a total population of ~65,000 and 18% have at least a bachelor's degree.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 29, 2014 14:59:09 GMT -5
I'd like to sub but I let my certification lapse.
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Post by Shooby on Aug 30, 2014 6:44:23 GMT -5
The starting salaries for our teachers with a BS degree is $33,500. The sub rate is about $75 a day.
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Post by imanangel on Aug 30, 2014 11:46:33 GMT -5
Yes, she made more subbing than she did when she finally got a permanent position, at least to start. I guess because they weren't paying any benefits? And also maybe because they were so short on subs? That is totally messed up. I can almost see it happening because a portion of your "per diem" is actually withheld to cover holidays, summer vacation, etc. I know everyone thinks teachers are paid in the summer even though they don't work. It is really money already earned but withheld. But you still have to be talking about long-term subs. Daily subs just aren't paid that much. By the way, subbing is a terrible way to try to get a permanent job around here. I am sure it has to do with walking into a difficult situation, but long-term subs hardly ever get hired full-time in my district. I was a long term sub for one year for the school district here. I am now a full time 5th grade teacher. Most of the schools I have worked at, you pretty much HAD to be a sub for them before they would even look at you for a full time job.
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