Government employees paid to do nothing, and get bonus.

[OldCoyote]

Man am I jealous, getting paid to do nothing.  How do you get a job like that? Wait maybe we could tie in the part of the bored government workers,

watching porn and getting paid bonus on top of that. Wait, wait maybe we need a study on the effects of alcohol while watching porn and getting paid to nothing on top of that.

Oh!! don't forget my bonus.  Can I work from home??

freebeacon.com/issues/government-paralegals-paid-to-do-nothing-rewarded-with-bonuses/ 

[EVT1]

 Well, you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, don't do shit

[EVT1]

Funny though- people are always jealous of government or union employees- but instead of admitting their employer sucks they rag on other people that have it better than they do #sorelosers

[mmhmm]

If it sounds good to you, get the required training and apply. That would be my suggestion.

[OldCoyote]

I can get training to do nothing?  Sign me up, I could be really good at this!!

[jkapp]

Aug 7, 2014 23:25:09 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Funny though- people are always jealous of government or union employees- but instead of admitting their employer sucks they rag on other people that have it better than they do #sorelosers

Sure and people who are jealous of others making more than minimum wage demand the government to give them more money instead of doing the work, improving themselves, and earning a raise on their own...

[Opti]

Nowhere does the article say any paralegal did no paralegal work though.

It seems they hired the paralegals when they shouldn't have, probably

to preserve their budget not unlike what happens in corporations as well.

It is wasteful, it should be fixed. However, the fact that many posters do post during

their workday demonstrates that many other workers aren't fully utilized as well.

This is worse than average mainly because those in charge don't want to fix it, so

they allow and encourage billing 'other' time while these paralegals "work" off-site.

[mmhmm]

Aug 8, 2014 8:45:49 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

I can get training to do nothing?  Sign me up, I could be really good at this!!

Paralegal courses are taught at many community courses. If I remember correctly, it's a two-year course (although, that could have changed). Sign yourself up!

[OldCoyote]

"The report noted that most paralegals spent their work days at home, getting paid to watch television, surf the internet, use Facebook, exercise, read books and magazines, shop online, or catch up on household chores such as laundry and cleaning dishes."

That does not sound like paralegal work to me.

[sesfw]

A long time ago (1960s) this was the case with union workers as well. When we lived in the Los Angeles harbor area DHs cousin was a longshoreman.  They had to show up and stay at the union hall each day to be ready for work. If no work and they stayed, they still got paid.  Not sure of the % but I know it was almost 100% of regular pay.

This cousin would sit at the hall for days at a time playing cards with other longshoremen and get paid.  Very strong union at that time.  Same for UAW in the Detroit area.

Don't know what it's like now.

[Opti]

I never said it was. What I am saying is to be paid to do nothing all day every day

would require being able to bill 100% of your time to other, thus being paid to

do nothing as you put it.

From your URL:

The problem was only addressed after several whistleblowers came forward last year, including one paralegal that said they “did not want to sit on the clock for 60 to 70 hours while doing nothing.”

The OIG found that the number of wasted work hours was “remarkably high and troubling” between 2009 and 2013, with some paralegals charging more than half of their hours as Other Time. A total of 27,000 hours were billed in 2011, followed by 26,000 in 2012.

I am not disagreeing that the 'other' time isn't paralegal work. However, nowhere does it say they do zero paralegal work.

As a PT receptionist in a facility under renovation, I currently do less work because of circumstances beyond my

control. The difference between me and these paralegals is I have to stay on-site at my desk and my boss is not

encouraging me to bill other time and "work" at home.

[OldCoyote]

Well how about this, Government workers maybe doing too much by blocking investigations.


freebeacon.com/issues/inspectors-general-watchdog-investigations-stymied-by-federal-agencies/

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 8, 2014 9:45:37 GMT -5 sesfw said:

A long time ago (1960s) this was the case with union workers as well. When we lived in the Los Angeles harbor area DHs cousin was a longshoreman.  They had to show up and stay at the union hall each day to be ready for work. If no work and they stayed, they still got paid.  Not sure of the % but I know it was almost 100% of regular pay.

This cousin would sit at the hall for days at a time playing cards with other longshoremen and get paid.  Very strong union at that time.  Same for UAW in the Detroit area.

Don't know what it's like now.

Yep, I have a cousin who was an auto worker.  He went to TX and I met with he and his wife for dinner one night.  He boasted that he was getting paid full time for NOT being at work, and only needed to work 100 hours that month in order to collect his full paycheck.

He ragged on me like crazy because I had just bought my first new car, a Mazda.  But at the time, no one was touching American cars with a 20' pole they were so bad.  All that I could think was 'why did he want me to work 50 hours/week in order to buy a crappy American car, so he could sit on his ass half the month and not work?'.  Uh....no.

[The Captain]

Aug 8, 2014 9:45:37 GMT -5 sesfw said:

A long time ago (1960s) this was the case with union workers as well. When we lived in the Los Angeles harbor area DHs cousin was a longshoreman.  They had to show up and stay at the union hall each day to be ready for work. If no work and they stayed, they still got paid.  Not sure of the % but I know it was almost 100% of regular pay.

This cousin would sit at the hall for days at a time playing cards with other longshoremen and get paid.  Very strong union at that time.  Same for UAW in the Detroit area.

Don't know what it's like now.

I have a friend who lives in LA.  The union is still incredibly strong and almost impossible to get into.  You have to be a family member or know where a body is buried to even get an application in.

Another friend works for Chevy.  Before the government bailout the union workers were guaranteed a certain % of pay (like 85-95%) (jobsbank) even during plant shutdowns or slowdowns (when say sales were low or inventory was too high).  So they got paid even when sales were down and they weren't working.  This is one of the things the Unions had to give up in the restructuring deals.  I have to ask him if any of it remains.

[Deleted]

Aug 8, 2014 13:03:47 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Aug 8, 2014 9:45:37 GMT -5 sesfw said:

A long time ago (1960s) this was the case with union workers as well. When we lived in the Los Angeles harbor area DHs cousin was a longshoreman.  They had to show up and stay at the union hall each day to be ready for work. If no work and they stayed, they still got paid.  Not sure of the % but I know it was almost 100% of regular pay.

This cousin would sit at the hall for days at a time playing cards with other longshoremen and get paid.  Very strong union at that time.  Same for UAW in the Detroit area.

Don't know what it's like now.

Yep, I have a cousin who was an auto worker.  He went to TX and I met with he and his wife for dinner one night.  He boasted that he was getting paid full time for NOT being at work, and only needed to work 100 hours that month in order to collect his full paycheck.

He ragged on me like crazy because I had just bought my first new car, a Mazda.  But at the time, no one was touching American cars with a 20' pole they were so bad.  All that I could think was 'why did he want me to work 50 hours/week in order to buy a crappy American car, so he could sit on his ass half the month and not work?'.  Uh....no.

Up to just recently, wasn't Mazda owned by Ford ? Didn't they share drivetrains and chassis ?

[frankq]

Aug 8, 2014 9:45:37 GMT -5 sesfw said:

A long time ago (1960s) this was the case with union workers as well. When we lived in the Los Angeles harbor area DHs cousin was a longshoreman.  They had to show up and stay at the union hall each day to be ready for work. If no work and they stayed, they still got paid.  Not sure of the % but I know it was almost 100% of regular pay.

This cousin would sit at the hall for days at a time playing cards with other longshoremen and get paid.  Very strong union at that time.  Same for UAW in the Detroit area.

Don't know what it's like now.

Longshoremen, like auto workers, did not sit at the hall, but at the jobsite unless otherwise instructed. While there were times that people did indeed not actually work, both the auto workers, as well as the longshoremen, have to bring in more people than they actually needed every day to be able to keep production as well as shipping moving in the event that many people could not make it to work for a variety of reasons. Both of these organizations employed tens of thousands on people on a daily basis and at any given time there could be hundreds of employees sick, injured, suddenly out for family emergencies, etc. The people you refer to were the stand-by labor pools that were necessary to keep production lines and freight moving. Assembly lines and shipping operate as " Just-in Time" production entities. Far more cost effective to operate labor pools than to shut down production areas and disrupt goods flow. If your longshoreman cousin was getting paid, it was through the employers, not the union halls. Labor pools benefitted the employers and employees in those pools were required by their employers to sit and stay on stand-by for the entire shift regardless of the fact that they were not assigned to a line. Anything done at the direction of an employer is considered work and employees are compensated as such.

[frankq]

If you guys are really mad about government employees doing nothing, why don't you blow a call into your congressman and ask why government employees got back pay for time off during the shutdown? Dems made a huge deal about how employees were hurt by the shutdown....These people ended up getting and extra 2 week paid vacation.....to everyone else in the country this is called a layoff.

[Tennesseer]

frankq said:  "If you guys are really mad about government employees doing nothing, why don't you blow a call into your congressman and ask why government employees got back pay for time off during the shutdown? Dems made a huge deal about how employees were hurt by the shutdown....These people ended up getting and extra 2 week paid vacation.....to everyone else in the country this is called a layoff."



"WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House of Representatives agreed on at least one issue as the government shutdown entered its fifth day Saturday: Federal employees will receive back pay for the time they were out of work.

The Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act sailed through the lower chamber by a vote of 407-0 Saturday morning. The bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by Virginia Reps. Jim Moran (D) and Frank Wolf (R), was expected to pass, since Congress has typically granted back pay to furloughed workers after previous government shutdowns."

House Passes Bill To Give Back Pay To Federal Workers Furloughed In Government Shutdown

The HoR must be made up of 100% dems.

[EVT1]

Aug 8, 2014 13:25:27 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Aug 8, 2014 13:03:47 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Up to just recently, wasn't Mazda owned by Ford ? Didn't they share drivetrains and chassis ?

They made some Frankenstein vehicles back in the day.  The Probe and Capri come to mind.

[djAdvocate]

i wonder how most PRIVATE companies would survive such an audit.

[frankq]

Aug 10, 2014 11:40:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

frankq said:  "If you guys are really mad about government employees doing nothing, why don't you blow a call into your congressman and ask why government employees got back pay for time off during the shutdown? Dems made a huge deal about how employees were hurt by the shutdown....These people ended up getting and extra 2 week paid vacation.....to everyone else in the country this is called a layoff."



"WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House of Representatives agreed on at least one issue as the government shutdown entered its fifth day Saturday: Federal employees will receive back pay for the time they were out of work.

The Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act sailed through the lower chamber by a vote of 407-0 Saturday morning. The bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by Virginia Reps. Jim Moran (D) and Frank Wolf (R), was expected to pass, since Congress has typically granted back pay to furloughed workers after previous government shutdowns."

House Passes Bill To Give Back Pay To Federal Workers Furloughed In Government Shutdown

The HoR must be made up of 100% dems.

The Dems carried the banner, assisted by the press,  but in true gutless and selfish political theater, our alleged representatives cooperated together to give their government employees the money they should not have given them proving that at the end of the day, it was all bullshit rhetoric that only hurt taxpayers and those needing government services. God forbid any of these assholes in the House take a stand. Since government employees have a history of getting paid for government shutdowns, then why are they allowed to stay home and create the shutdown in the first place? It's all bullshit and unfortunately most people swallow it whole.... 

[Tennesseer]

Aug 16, 2014 21:25:02 GMT -5 frankq said:

Aug 10, 2014 11:40:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

frankq said:  "If you guys are really mad about government employees doing nothing, why don't you blow a call into your congressman and ask why government employees got back pay for time off during the shutdown? Dems made a huge deal about how employees were hurt by the shutdown....These people ended up getting and extra 2 week paid vacation.....to everyone else in the country this is called a layoff."



"WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House of Representatives agreed on at least one issue as the government shutdown entered its fifth day Saturday: Federal employees will receive back pay for the time they were out of work.

The Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act sailed through the lower chamber by a vote of 407-0 Saturday morning. The bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by Virginia Reps. Jim Moran (D) and Frank Wolf (R), was expected to pass, since Congress has typically granted back pay to furloughed workers after previous government shutdowns."

House Passes Bill To Give Back Pay To Federal Workers Furloughed In Government Shutdown

The HoR must be made up of 100% dems.

The Dems carried the banner, assisted by the press,  but in true gutless and selfish political theater, our alleged representatives cooperated together to give their government employees the money they should not have given them proving that at the end of the day, it was all bullshit rhetoric that only hurt taxpayers and those needing government services. God forbid any of these assholes in the House take a stand. Since government employees have a history of getting paid for government shutdowns, then why are they allowed to stay home and create the shutdown in the first place? It's all bullshit and unfortunately most people swallow it whole.... 

Yes.  The Democrats carried the banner assisted by the Republicans ìn the Republican controlled House of Representatives.

[frankq]

Yes. The Democrats carried the banner assisted by the Republicans ìn the Republican controlled House of Representatives.

Yes. I believe that's what I said...

[djAdvocate]

question: we are always complaining about what government does around here.  why should we not be happy if they did nothing?  in fact, maybe we should encourage them to do nothing by giving out bonuses when they do nothing?

oh wait.......

[Tennesseer]

Aug 20, 2014 19:29:38 GMT -5 frankq said:

Yes. The Democrats carried the banner assisted by the Republicans ìn the Republican controlled House of Representatives.

Yes. I believe that's what I said...

No you didn't.  Read your post again.

[frankq]

Yes, I did. Here...it's in English...

The Dems carried the banner, assisted by the press, but in true gutless and selfish political theater, our alleged representatives cooperated together to give their government employees the money they should not have given them proving that at the end of the day, it was all bullshit rhetoric that only hurt taxpayers and those needing government services. God forbid any of these assholes in the House take a stand. Since government employees have a history of getting paid for government shutdowns, then why are they allowed to stay home and create the shutdown in the first place? It's all bullshit and unfortunately most people swallow it whole....

From reply #21.

I'm pretty sure Repubs were getting lambasted for the infamous "government shutdown"...... I agreed that they were just as gutless when it came time to dole out money that gov. employees didn't have coming as Dems.

[Tennesseer]

Aug 20, 2014 19:50:28 GMT -5 frankq said:

Yes, I did. Here...it's in English...

The Dems carried the banner, assisted by the press, but in true gutless and selfish political theater, our alleged representatives cooperated together to give their government employees the money they should not have given them proving that at the end of the day, it was all bullshit rhetoric that only hurt taxpayers and those needing government services. God forbid any of these assholes in the House take a stand. Since government employees have a history of getting paid for government shutdowns, then why are they allowed to stay home and create the shutdown in the first place? It's all bullshit and unfortunately most people swallow it whole....

From reply #21.

I'm pretty sure Repubs were getting lambasted for the infamous "government shutdown"...... I agreed that they were just as gutless when it came time to dole out money that gov. employees didn't have coming as Dems.

There was no 'press' ìn my recap.

[frankq]

Ok....Whatever....