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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 8, 2014 16:20:31 GMT -5
Absolutely, in-laws don't count when it comes to judgment Good, because I have at least one that gets lots of it. Ok, more but this one.....man....she's something. And even with all that internal judgment, I'm pretty sure she's fairly clueless about what I actually think of her.
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Sam_2.0
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Aug 8, 2014 16:24:46 GMT -5
Oh, my! I don't think "CPS investigation" and "quick resolution" have ever been spoken in the same sentence, but I really hope this whole thing gets cleared up quickly and nothing stays on the Dad's record. Why does that dad get a pass in your book? He was just lucky that his baby wasn't harmed. It's been a horrible experience, for sure. Legitimate accident that fortunately wasn't fatal, but the dad will be dealing with the fallout for quite some time. And so will the mom & the kids. I can't imagine the stress that would put on a relationship. But it's certainly better than the alternative of losing their child. It's also made me think that when the kids are older we may need to have a family safety routine - like we all stand at the front of the car and acknowledge everyone is there and look at the car to make sure the seats are empty before the car gets locked and we move on to our destination, kind of like our safety walk-arounds at work. DD is a runner and I can see her doing the same thing once she's old enough to get herself in & out of the car. For now, we are working on training her to put her hands on the car while she's waiting to get in or for us to lock up to go somewhere. You can even buy magnets with a handprint for kids to use. Now when we approach the car she yells "Hands on the Car!" like she's in some bad cop show and places both hands on the car At least she can't run away while I unlock her door and get her into her seat.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 8, 2014 16:27:06 GMT -5
Sam_2.0, you should totally post that on YouTube!
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Post by Firebird on Aug 8, 2014 16:29:02 GMT -5
It's also made me think that when the kids are older we may need to have a family safety routine - like we all stand at the front of the car and acknowledge everyone is there and look at the car to make sure the seats are empty before the car gets locked and we move on to our destination, kind of like our safety walk-arounds at work.
I love that idea. Lately, I've been asking myself at random moments in the day where Babybird is supposed to be. Obviously this isn't foolproof because I have to take it on faith if she's supposed to be somewhere like daycare and I wasn't the one to drop her off but at least it triggers me to think about her and hopefully I would notice if something didn't feel right... But anyway, this is a great idea - especially once your little dude is here. I love the hands on the car thing too
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Aug 8, 2014 16:29:49 GMT -5
I've gotten some really strange looks, believe me! And lots of laughs But it keeps her from running.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Aug 8, 2014 16:41:03 GMT -5
I'm so glad my oldest is a rule follower. Jocelyn is a runner, but she'll also copy Ben. So if he is behaving, she'll do the same. Also if I ask Ben to hold her hand, she will willingly walk to the plank.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 8, 2014 16:49:32 GMT -5
Number two child was not a rule follower. Her dad used to pin her against the car while he dealt with whatever. I'd step on her foot. I threatened a leash but the darn leash had too much slack for safety.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 8, 2014 16:53:54 GMT -5
I texted my mom to see how she would have felt about leaving DN at the pool (had she been DN's mom in the same situation). First she asked me if it was a test But then she said essentially the same thing I did, that she felt fine leaving her alone since she wasn't planning to swim. With other kids around to tempt her, she would've made her come with us.
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Post by sapphire12 on Aug 8, 2014 17:49:28 GMT -5
In the OP, I'm okay with the bystanders waiting for the police and not giving the woman her child back. I don't think the mom was justified for punching the bystanders. She stated she left the child in the car because the child was asleep. This was not a smart choice.
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Post by Sunnyday on Aug 8, 2014 18:26:59 GMT -5
Absolutely, in-laws don't count when it comes to judgment Can I quote this for use in future arguments? lol
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Aug 8, 2014 21:31:07 GMT -5
Absolutely, in-laws don't count when it comes to judgment Can I quote this for use in future arguments? lol Like your other thread? Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 22:13:46 GMT -5
This is along the same lines as a couple who called the cops on a woman who left her child in the car. The woman got pissed off at them, and ran them over with the car. kdvr.com/2014/07/29/couple-says-they-were-hit-injured-while-reporting-a-child-locked-in-a-hot-car/Sorry, Mutt.....the parent was going to run away with the child and the only way to keep the woman there was to keep the child. The child had signs of hyperthermia, and you think that she should have been given back to the woman who left her in the car? I seriously doubt that any parent irresponsible enough to leave their kid in a hot car would wait around for medical aid, to make sure he was okay.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 9, 2014 7:42:13 GMT -5
Was DN the ONLY person at the pool? I'm normally not a worrier but I don't think I'd leave any child of just about any age alone at a pool. Not because of drowning or busybodies either. If there were other people, I probably would have just asked another parent, even if I really didnt know them, that I was running family home and would be back quickly but could they keep an eyeball peeled. Alone, nope, not even me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 8:03:19 GMT -5
Was DN the ONLY person at the pool? I'm normally not a worrier but I don't think I'd leave any child of just about any age alone at a pool. Not because of drowning or busybodies either. If there were other people, I probably would have just asked another parent, even if I really didnt know them, that I was running family home and would be back quickly but could they keep an eyeball peeled. Alone, nope, not even me. Outside of drowning, what's worse at the pool than say a park? My 12 year old goes to the pool by himself all the time, but they have a lifeguard. He's a very good swimmer, but I won't let him go to pools without a lifeguard unless he has someone, even just a friend, along.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 9, 2014 8:35:08 GMT -5
True but I'd tell the lifeguard even. I let my kids free range but they were always with other kids. Safety in numbers. Even if I didn't worry about creeps, what if they hurt themselves? A friend can help or get help.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 8:38:26 GMT -5
Was DN the ONLY person at the pool? I'm normally not a worrier but I don't think I'd leave any child of just about any age alone at a pool. Not because of drowning or busybodies either. If there were other people, I probably would have just asked another parent, even if I really didnt know them, that I was running family home and would be back quickly but could they keep an eyeball peeled. Alone, nope, not even me. Outside of drowning, what's worse at the pool than say a park? My 12 year old goes to the pool by himself all the time, but they have a lifeguard. He's a very good swimmer, but I won't let him go to pools without a lifeguard unless he has someone, even just a friend, along. I think what concerns me, whether the kids are at the park or pool is that some can be lured off by either strangers or someone they trust. It happens all the time. I was 11 or 12 at the park, alone, at dusk one evening when two older drunk guys approached me, while I was sitting on a bench. They kept asking me if I wanted a ride home, even though they could clearly see my bike. My parents had never instructed me in what to do regarding strangers. I was extremely shy, easily intimidated and could have been abducted in a heart beat had my instincts not kicked in, causing me to get on my bike and leave. I really think ALL kids from the time they are able to leave their parents sight should be given self defense lessons.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 9, 2014 8:42:55 GMT -5
Ugh, what an awful story. Thank GOD you were okay.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 9, 2014 23:06:08 GMT -5
No one could get into the pool area without a key and DN didn't know anyone in the area. I can't see her being lured out but I guess the danger is always there. That's why I disagree with kids being unattended for hours on end, like the park story. Us leaving DN at the pool alone, when she'd promised not to swim, was (to me) roughly equivalent to letting her play outside our building alone for a half hour before dinner. Yeah things could happen but they're all pretty unlikely.
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Post by truthbound on Aug 10, 2014 5:50:44 GMT -5
Sorry being the elephant of truth in the room I have to address the facts. After doing some searching here I have noticed an interesting thing. Since 1998 over 600 children have died in hot cars. It is common knowledge. So the question is if everyone is so pissed about it why in all the years this forum has been around has no one posted about it until now when the media boobleheads told them to?
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Aug 11, 2014 9:32:52 GMT -5
Sorry being the elephant of truth in the room I have to address the facts. After doing some searching here I have noticed an interesting thing. Since 1998 over 600 children have died in hot cars. It is common knowledge. So the question is if everyone is so pissed about it why in all the years this forum has been around has no one posted about it until now when the media boobleheads told them to? We chatter about this every summer when it comes up in the news.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 11, 2014 10:32:20 GMT -5
Plus, it was probably one of those subjects that didn't get talked about until recently when people started realizing that awareness > dead kids.
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Post by truthbound on Aug 12, 2014 5:18:09 GMT -5
Sorry being the elephant of truth in the room I have to address the facts. After doing some searching here I have noticed an interesting thing. Since 1998 over 600 children have died in hot cars. It is common knowledge. So the question is if everyone is so pissed about it why in all the years this forum has been around has no one posted about it until now when the media boobleheads told them to? We chatter about this every summer when it comes up in the news. Exactly. you only 'chatter' about it when the bobbleheads in the news tell you to. I have actually been doing something about it since 1987.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 7:43:39 GMT -5
We chatter about this every summer when it comes up in the news. Exactly. you only 'chatter' about it when the bobbleheads in the news tell you to. I have actually been doing something about it since 1987. So are you going to share what you've been doing about kids getting left in cars for the past 27 years?
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Post by truthbound on Aug 13, 2014 5:30:05 GMT -5
Yes unlike the posers here I have been sharing my opinion on the issue since I have been old enough to voice an opinion.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 13, 2014 6:45:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry but do you actually wonder why no one asks you about yourself? You're mean. If that gets me banned, it's worth it.
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Post by swamp on Aug 13, 2014 8:04:39 GMT -5
We chatter about this every summer when it comes up in the news. Exactly. you only 'chatter' about it when the bobbleheads in the news tell you to. I have actually been doing something about it since 1987. Go you. Here's your cookie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 8:07:49 GMT -5
Yes unlike the posers here I have been sharing my opinion on the issue since I have been old enough to voice an opinion. Yeah, nobody on this board ever shares their opinion.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Aug 13, 2014 8:11:20 GMT -5
Yes unlike the posers here I have been sharing my opinion on the issue since I have been old enough to voice an opinion. Pehaps we have also. This is a message board - something people post on in their spare time. If you think it defines what they/we do or do not do in real life, I'm not sure you understand the concept of a message board. I do not make multiple threads about rape/domestic abuse nor do I talk about it much here. However, I spend a good amount of my time volunteering for places that shelter those victims. Do not assume you know anything about what anybody does or doesn't do in real life based on what they post on a message boards. Well....you can assume if you want, but you know what that means. But thank you...really....for being so socially aware since you could talk.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 13, 2014 13:39:07 GMT -5
Sorry being the elephant of truth in the room I have to address the facts. After doing some searching here I have noticed an interesting thing. Since 1998 over 600 children have died in hot cars. It is common knowledge. So the question is if everyone is so pissed about it why in all the years this forum has been around has no one posted about it until now when the media boobleheads told them to? You want to talk about the elephant in the room how about the 4000 some odd people who die from drowning every year? Leaving a kid around a pool and saying dont drown is like me leaving my kid around a pile of matches and saying don't burn down the house. While they probably won't do it most of the time it is way too big a risk to take for no gain!
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Post by truthbound on Aug 15, 2014 3:55:52 GMT -5
Yes unlike the posers here I have been sharing my opinion on the issue since I have been old enough to voice an opinion. Pehaps we have also. This is a message board - something people post on in their spare time. If you think it defines what they/we do or do not do in real life, I'm not sure you understand the concept of a message board. I do not make multiple threads about rape/domestic abuse nor do I talk about it much here. However, I spend a good amount of my time volunteering for places that shelter those victims. Do not assume you know anything about what anybody does or doesn't do in real life based on what they post on a message boards. Well....you can assume if you want, but you know what that means. But thank you...really....for being so socially aware since you could talk. What are you prattling on about? I was asked a question and I answered it. And as far as the internets goes it is an electronic medium where people create anonymous personas to escape reality.
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