Robber Sues Pizzeria Over His Treatment During The Robbery!

[OldCoyote]

Poor babe,  they took his gun and beat the crap out of him.  Dang it, Don't you just hate it when your robbery just doesn't go right!

[jkapp]

LOL!  Where's the fear and respect for criminals nowadays? Things just ain't the way they used to be

[EVT1]

Will have to watch later but have to say the title is pretty biased as you cannot sue someone for stopping a robbery.  You can sue for battery however if it crosses the line.  I am assuming that is what is being alleged?

[Tennesseer]

If you don't want to watch the video, here is a link to his 'Poor Pitiful Pearl' story and current and previous lawsuit. The last words of the article say it all.

Man sues pizzeria for injuries during robbery attempt

[thyme4change]

This is one of those times that I would rather pay $30k in lawyer's fees than $20k to get out of it.  What a shithead.

[zibazinski]

Bet they're sorry they didnt beat him to death.

[EVT1]

Jul 29, 2014 17:36:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If you don't want to watch the video, here is a link to his 'Poor Pitiful Pearl' story and current and previous lawsuit. The last words of the article say it all.

Man sues pizzeria for injuries during robbery attempt

Ahhhh- so it's not news at all.  Another jailhouse lawyer files a suit- that never happens

What was the last one about- not enough sauce on the meatloaf?

I thought it was a real case- silly me.

Leave it to Judge Dredd/Zib to be bummed out by the non-murdering of the perpetrator.  Now if someone pulled out a gun and shot the guy while he was threatening people then great- sends a solid message- but failing to kill someone whose ass you kicked into oblivion is called obeying the law.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 17:38:29 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Bet they're sorry they didnt beat him to death.

i bet they aren't.  having the death of another human on your hands is nothing to be trifled with.

[EVT1]

Jul 29, 2014 20:50:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 29, 2014 17:38:29 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Bet they're sorry they didnt beat him to death.

i bet they aren't.  having the death of another human on your hands is nothing to be trifled with.

No doubt. They could offer me the lever on the guillotine on the worst POS on the planet and I would pass-even the Wall Street assholes that I would mourn for about 0 seconds if they were killed by someone else.  Not me.  The only way I kill someone is if that is the last option.  What scares me is the amount of people that would sign up to kill a fellow human being- and hope their bullet was the one that finished them off.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 21:17:09 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Jul 29, 2014 20:50:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i bet they aren't.  having the death of another human on your hands is nothing to be trifled with.

No doubt. They could offer me the lever on the guillotine on the worst POS on the planet and I would pass-even the Wall Street assholes that I would mourn for about 0 seconds if they were killed by someone else.  Not me.  The only way I kill someone is if that is the last option.  What scares me is the amount of people that would sign up to kill a fellow human being- and hope their bullet was the one that finished them off.

Milgram's 37

[zibazinski]

Well, I'm not surprised but I bet you'd sing a different tune if it was you or yours being threatened. Maybe not. Not sorry for you but sorry for those who think they can depend on you to protect them. Hopefully, no one does.

[resolution]

That's the main reason I got rid of my gun and got a taser instead. I lack confidence that I would pull the trigger immediately at the moment needed, and would hesitate long enough to be disarmed. I think it would be easier to pull the trigger to defend someone else other than myself though.  With a taser I don't need to have any hesitation.

[zibazinski]

Do tasers subdue someone on drugs? Pepper spray doesn't, I am told.

[Deleted]

If you're the type of person that's capable of defending yourself with a weapon, best it be an actual weapon, not something patterned after a cattle control tool or small animal deterent.   If you're not capable of defending yourself, submit and someone else will decide what's going to happen to you.

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2014 7:04:09 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Do tasers subdue someone on drugs? Pepper spray doesn't, I am told.

Tasers don't always subdue someone that's NOT on drugs. (I was voluntarily tazed once as part of my rescue squad training to teach members how to deal with tazed people... they needed a volunteer.

All it did to me was hurt like hell (those "barbs" on the projectile are NO joke!) and piss me off (even though I DID volunteer). Had I not been a volunteer, I would have grabbed the Taser and beat the crap out of the person tazering me.


Now... maybe the Tazer I got hit with had a faulty power pack, or something went wrong with it, or it was low on charge... I don't know. I do know that the person in charge of the training said (after me proving the point) that Tazers were NOT 100% successful.

[zibazinski]

I will stick with my Smith

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2014 18:54:17 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I will stick with my Smith

Much better choice!

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Serves the dumb-f*ck right. His "lawsuit" will be laughed out of court faster than it's filed.

[EVT1]

Jul 30, 2014 18:51:08 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jul 30, 2014 7:04:09 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Do tasers subdue someone on drugs? Pepper spray doesn't, I am told.

Tasers don't always subdue someone that's NOT on drugs. (I was voluntarily tazed once as part of my rescue squad training to teach members how to deal with tazed people... they needed a volunteer.

All it did to me was hurt like hell (those "barbs" on the projectile are NO joke!) and piss me off (even though I DID volunteer). Had I not been a volunteer, I would have grabbed the Taser and beat the crap out of the person tazering me.


Now... maybe the Tazer I got hit with had a faulty power pack, or something went wrong with it, or it was low on charge... I don't know. I do know that the person in charge of the training said (after me proving the point) that Tazers were NOT 100% successful.

Neither do bullets. I find it funny that someone on a rescue squad has an issue with seatbelts though. Please tell me you don't have your personal vehicle all jacked up with strobes and crap like some of the ones I know do.   

[zibazinski]

Jul 30, 2014 18:59:43 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Serves the dumb-f*ck right. His "lawsuit" will be laughed out of court faster than it's filed.

You'd be surprised. I hope it is as well but....

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2014 20:26:56 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Jul 30, 2014 18:51:08 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Tasers don't always subdue someone that's NOT on drugs. (I was voluntarily tazed once as part of my rescue squad training to teach members how to deal with tazed people... they needed a volunteer.

All it did to me was hurt like hell (those "barbs" on the projectile are NO joke!) and piss me off (even though I DID volunteer). Had I not been a volunteer, I would have grabbed the Taser and beat the crap out of the person tazering me.


Now... maybe the Tazer I got hit with had a faulty power pack, or something went wrong with it, or it was low on charge... I don't know. I do know that the person in charge of the training said (after me proving the point) that Tazers were NOT 100% successful.

Neither do bullets. I find it funny that someone on a rescue squad has an issue with seatbelts though. Please tell me you don't have your personal vehicle all jacked up with strobes and crap like some of the ones I know do.

Was on a Rescue Squad. Past tense ("was" was mentioned elsewhere, so you may not have seen it)... and no, I was not one of those that went "all out" with their personal vehicle. All I had on my personal vehicle were 1 ceiling mounted red double strobe (right in front of the rear-view mirror), strobes in the tail lights, and a siren. Except for the double strobe in the front windshield, my personal truck looked like any other personal S-10 4x2... The equipment I had was specifically because we could put ourselves "on-call" if we wanted to, in our "unscheduled" hours. I might need to go to a scene fast, from {wherever}... so those helped when necessary.

And, as I have stated, my time on the Rescue Squad is precisely WHY I have a problem with mandated use (I have no problem with people that CHOOSE to wear them... their life, their choice... and yes, I also agree that the odds are more in your favor if a person wears one... but it should be their choice).

And yes, to your first point, I understand that bullets aren't 100% successful... However I wasn't commenting on bullets or comparing them to Tazers... I was commenting on the Tazer specifically and exclusively.

[EVT1]

Jul 30, 2014 21:26:01 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jul 30, 2014 20:26:56 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Neither do bullets. I find it funny that someone on a rescue squad has an issue with seatbelts though. Please tell me you don't have your personal vehicle all jacked up with strobes and crap like some of the ones I know do.

Was on a Rescue Squad. Past tense ("was" was mentioned elsewhere, so you may not have seen it)... and no, I was not one of those that went "all out" with their personal vehicle. All I had on my personal vehicle were 1 ceiling mounted red double strobe (right in front of the rear-view mirror), strobes in the tail lights, and a siren. Except for the double strobe in the front windshield, my personal truck looked like any other personal S-10 4x2... The equipment I had was specifically because we could put ourselves "on-call" if we wanted to, in our "unscheduled" hours. I might need to go to a scene fast, from {wherever}... so those helped when necessary.

And, as I have stated, my time on the Rescue Squad is precisely WHY I have a problem with mandated use (I have no problem with people that CHOOSE to wear them... their life, their choice... and yes, I also agree that the odds are more in your favor if a person wears one... but it should be their choice).

And yes, to your first point, I understand that bullets aren't 100% successful... However I wasn't commenting on bullets or comparing them to Tazers... I was commenting on the Tazer specifically and exclusively.

Just checking- why are you not doing it now?  Everyone I know loves it- and I donate equipment to them on a regular basis.

And for those that do not know there are underserved areas that rely on these squads staffed by volunteers- and in many cases it is perfectly fine to run emergency traffic in personal vehicles.  Of course some go overboard with it.....

[thyme4change]

Here is some fun reading.  Warning...adult language.


www.cracked.com/article_20605_5-victims-horrible-crimes-who-got-sued-by-criminal.html

[zibazinski]

That's why you don't let criminals live. They'll sue you!

[billisonboard]

Jul 30, 2014 18:59:43 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Serves the dumb-f*ck right. His "lawsuit" will be laughed out of court faster than it's filed.

Normally lawsuits like this are tossed out after a brief review by the court. And while U.S. District Judge Sue L. Robinson tossed out several of Sykes' claims, she allowed the case to move forward against the pizza employees, two arresting officers and Seasons. www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/22/man-sues-pizzeria-rough-treatment-during-robbery/12982441/

[zibazinski]

[billisonboard]

Is it possible for a person or a group of people to go too far in actions once an armed robber is subdued? I think it is possible. I would hope that most would agree that tying them to a chair, pulling out their toe and finger nails, and not giving them food nor water until they die would  be unacceptable. If you accept that there is a "too far", then it becomes necessary for a court to hear evidence to determine if situation "x" crossed that line. In this particular case, I am curious about the "hot soup". I can see the potential for this to have been a torturing act which would, in my mind, cross the line of acceptability. My thought is that the judge sees that potential also and that is why the case is going to be heard. 

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2014 23:44:57 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Jul 30, 2014 21:26:01 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Was on a Rescue Squad. Past tense ("was" was mentioned elsewhere, so you may not have seen it)... and no, I was not one of those that went "all out" with their personal vehicle. All I had on my personal vehicle were 1 ceiling mounted red double strobe (right in front of the rear-view mirror), strobes in the tail lights, and a siren. Except for the double strobe in the front windshield, my personal truck looked like any other personal S-10 4x2... The equipment I had was specifically because we could put ourselves "on-call" if we wanted to, in our "unscheduled" hours. I might need to go to a scene fast, from {wherever}... so those helped when necessary.

And, as I have stated, my time on the Rescue Squad is precisely WHY I have a problem with mandated use (I have no problem with people that CHOOSE to wear them... their life, their choice... and yes, I also agree that the odds are more in your favor if a person wears one... but it should be their choice).

And yes, to your first point, I understand that bullets aren't 100% successful... However I wasn't commenting on bullets or comparing them to Tazers... I was commenting on the Tazer specifically and exclusively.

Just checking- why are you not doing it now?  Everyone I know loves it- and I donate equipment to them on a regular basis.

And for those that do not know there are underserved areas that rely on these squads staffed by volunteers- and in many cases it is perfectly fine to run emergency traffic in personal vehicles.  Of course some go overboard with it.....

Back issues after a car wreck... could no longer meet the "lift" requirements. I stayed on in a "help with the trucks" capacity (maintenance, stocking, full "wash" once a week or when needed, things like that), until I moved from North Myrtle Beach, SC. (I'm in Tennessee now).

ETA: before you comment, Yes, I see the irony in my seatbelt stance considering back injury sustained during a car wreck was why I had to stop being "full member" of the Squad. So... just to you know, My Chiropractor was actually GLAD I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. He told me the damage to my back probably would have been worse because there would have been MORE torsional stress to the spine. because I was "T-Boned" and instead of sliding in the seat (like I did), my waist would have remained relatively "fixed" while my upper body snapped like a reed in the wind.