For people who run from diabetes

[tloonya]

I was participating in Carl's thread I am so hungry and forund this
ausfoodnews.com.au/2013/12/04/mediterranean-diet-without-breakfast-the-%E2%80%98best-choice%E2%80%99-for-diabetics-study.html

Just FYI.

[Deleted]

That was interesting. I'd like to see more studies done.

[Blonde Granny]

My DH is considered a brittle diabetic (a new term is used for that now). He takes oral meds and 5 insulin injections per day, 3 fast acting and 2 long acting.

If he tried something like this, he would probably be in a coma for glucose levels shooting thru the roof or plummeting to the floor.  All ideas are not appropriate for all diabetics. And I've had to deal with him when his glucose level hit 17 and he was going into a coma. I don't ever want to do that again.

[mmhmm]

If you are a Type 2 diabetic, it's always best to discuss any dietary changes with your doctor before proceeding. What works for one may not work for another.

[Deleted]

My first thought was, skipping breakfast is probably good because most people here suck up carbs for breakfast.

[movingforward]

I am not diabetic but this is how I eat most everyday.  Well, minus the wine... I eat one large meal a day and it is lunch.  For dinner I eat no more than 300 calories.  I am sure this doesn't work for everyone but I have managed to keep my weight way down by doing this and I don't feel like I am denying myself anything because I allow myself to eat what I want once a day everyday.

[mmhmm]

The results of drastic dietary changes for diabetics are significant in many cases. The wrong choices can even prove fatal. It's just not something one should mess with on one's own. A doctor's guidance is critical.

[tloonya]

Jul 15, 2014 10:25:01 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

If you are a Type 2 diabetic, it's always best to discuss any dietary changes with your doctor before proceeding. What works for one may not work for another.

Exactly! I was referring to people with just about to become diabetics.
I would NEVER in my life suspect that anyone with a serious condition will do anything that is just published in magazines.

A lots of my clients are trying to lower their blood sugar because they do not want to become diabetics.
Celery works for some, sunchoke for others, celery root...a lot of different people with same problem but not seriously ill.

I have chosen wrong title. I should had said for people who running from diabetes. Sorry.

[mmhmm]

No problem, Tloonya. There are a lot of articles out there and a lot of research is being done. It's good to know about these things; however, if someone is diabetic it's very important that person always check with their doctor before making changes.

[alabamagal]

Red wine at lunch!  I'm in!

[Blonde Granny]

Loonya, I believe you can edit the title and put in that description.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

Jul 15, 2014 10:19:34 GMT -5 Blonde Granny said:

My DH is considered a brittle diabetic (a new term is used for that now). He takes oral meds and 5 insulin injections per day, 3 fast acting and 2 long acting.

If he tried something like this, he would probably be in a coma for glucose levels shooting thru the roof or plummeting to the floor.  All ideas are not appropriate for all diabetics. And I've had to deal with him when his glucose level hit 17 and he was going into a coma. I don't ever want to do that again.

I've been a diabetic for 20 years and have no interest in trying what looks like a fad diet based on one study.

[tloonya]

Jul 15, 2014 11:00:53 GMT -5 Blonde Granny said:

Loonya, I believe you can edit the title and put in that description.

Done! You became useful with high position, BG!

[Blonde Granny]

Jul 16, 2014 11:10:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Jul 15, 2014 11:00:53 GMT -5 Blonde Granny said:

Loonya, I believe you can edit the title and put in that description.

Done! You became useful with high position, BG!

Thank you and you're welcome Loonya.

[mmhmm]

Jul 16, 2014 12:20:59 GMT -5 @missmargarita said:

I don't see how one giant meal in the middle of the day is something a diabetic should do.  It's been shown that smaller meals throughout the day is ideal for maintaining blood sugar leves and avoiding spikes.  I would imagine that basically fasting for 24 hours and then eating a large meal would cause a huge spike in blood sugar...

I'd be more worried about the blood sugar plummeting during the hours of fasting. The whole thing sounds kinda scary to me, based on what's known about diabetes Type II.

[Deleted]

My diabetic grandmother ate English muffins with juice and cereal and oj every morning. 

I'd guess most people don't do eggs and bacon every day. Most eat cereal, toast, pop tarts, bagels, muffins, etc...

[Miss Tequila]

Jul 16, 2014 17:20:40 GMT -5 oped said:

My diabetic grandmother ate English muffins with juice and cereal and oj every morning. 

I'd guess most people don't do eggs and bacon every day. Most eat cereal, toast, pop tarts, bagels, muffins, etc...

I don't let my kids eat just carbs to start their day. They get some kind of eggs usually with toast. Sometimes a yogurt shake. When I'm out of town my husband feeds them frosted flakes...ugh

[Deleted]

I don't generally eat 'breakfast food'... A few times a year and once in a while for dinner. I don't eat many grains at all. But I think carbs for breakfast are quite common... 

[wvugurl26]

I have greek yogurt for breakfast most days. I have an egg white allergy so eggs are out. 

[truthbound]

Jul 15, 2014 10:59:18 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

No problem, Tloonya. There are a lot of articles out there and a lot of research is being done. It's good to know about these things; however, if someone is diabetic it's very important that person always check with their doctor before making changes.

In the end doctors know nothing. Diabetes kills you at some point. There is no cure.

[marvholly]

Jul 16, 2014 17:38:57 GMT -5 @missmargarita said:

I see more protein heavy breakfasts here, which is what I prefer, but I keep the protein lean.  If I do have carbs at breakfast it is usually a whole wheat tortilla to make a breakfast burrito or a whole grain english muffin to make a scrambled egg sandwich. 

I love bagels but always feel like I fall into a carb coma after eating them so I don't eat them anymore. 

You might want to try Entenmann’s bagel thins either full size or mini. They are available in regular, whole wheat & some flavors. MUCH lower calorie & carb counts.

I am NOT a standard cereal for breakfast person.  I do yogurt & fruit, lefttovers (usually meat), cottage cheese, bread/roll/bagel & either PB or cheese, an egg here or there & 1x/week pancakes or waffles.  I have been known to have hummus & veggies.

[tloonya]

Jul 17, 2014 4:37:01 GMT -5 truthbound said:

Jul 15, 2014 10:59:18 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

No problem, Tloonya. There are a lot of articles out there and a lot of research is being done. It's good to know about these things; however, if someone is diabetic it's very important that person always check with their doctor before making changes.

In the end doctors know nothing. Diabetes kills you at  some point. There is no cure.

Was that necessary?

I have a customer who is traveling the world as a magazine photographer and he is a diabetic on pills.
However he went to a diabetic school at the hospital. It is 6 weeks course that teaches you how to eat to not to deprive themselves.
He travels and eats everything around the world and living happy! He is about 65+ and I do not think diabetes will kill him.

[NancysSummerSip]

I've known a number of Type 2 diabetics in my life. Many do very well and live normal lives doing the diet-exercise-meds thing. Those that let things slip tend to die before their time (like my dad) or live into their older years, but they are chronically ill (like my mother). Of the three Type 1 diabetics I know, two died young; both did what they were supposed to do, but I think the disease just took its toll. One is still alive, getting close to 60, but he has to be vigilant every moment of the day. He's healthy, owns and runs several businesses, works out and is quite active in the community. But every day is a balancing act for him. He does it well, but I do not envy the work he has to do.

There are at least two professional race car drivers who are diabetics: IndyCar driver Charlie Kimball and NASCAR's Ryan Reed both have Type 1, and neither is prohibited from racing. I don't think either of them uses an insulin pump.

[truthbound]

Jul 17, 2014 9:56:44 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Jul 17, 2014 4:37:01 GMT -5 truthbound said:

In the end doctors know nothing. Diabetes kills you at  some point. There is no cure.

Was that necessary?

I have a customer who is traveling the world as a magazine photographer and he is a diabetic on pills.
However he went to a diabetic school at the hospital. It is 6 weeks course that teaches you how to eat to not to deprive themselves.
He travels and eats everything around the world and living happy! He is about 65+ and I do not think diabetes will kill him.

Are facts necessary? Yes. Doctors don't have a clue. They don't cure they treat. And I can't tell you how many people I have seen who buy into every snake oil 'cure' that comes out. With that said I am glad your friend is doing ok. But the reality is as he ages his pill requirement will go up in order to maintain his condition. In the end diet is the most crucial factor as mmhmm said.