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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 19:21:59 GMT -5
Hadn't seen that joss, thanks for the link.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 9, 2014 19:35:23 GMT -5
Lol. Two things drive education. One is lunch. You usually can't count a school day unless you serve lunch. The other is testing. So your time slot probably means that another test is being given . . . you got it! . . . after lunch.
You are welcome to this quick and dirty insider look into education.
ETA: Are they giving this in the LUNCH room? Oh, this rings so true! Except, our HS doesn't serve lunch during Regents weeks - they expect the kids to come in only for the exams they have, and then clear out so they are not disturbing the other kids with exams. Transportation during Regents weeks is a PITA, because there are both a morning and afternoon exam scheduled each day, but generally an individual student only has one on a given day. There is no way the state would only schedule Regents after 10a.m. - that would double the number of days lost to exam taking. Special conditions students already make 2 exams a day a tight squeeze, since they are entitled to more time.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 9, 2014 19:57:44 GMT -5
Lol. Two things drive education. One is lunch. You usually can't count a school day unless you serve lunch. The other is testing. So your time slot probably means that another test is being given . . . you got it! . . . after lunch.
You are welcome to this quick and dirty insider look into education.
ETA: Are they giving this in the LUNCH room? Oh, this rings so true! Except, our HS doesn't serve lunch during Regents weeks - they expect the kids to come in only for the exams they have, and then clear out so they are not disturbing the other kids with exams. Transportation during Regents weeks is a PITA, because there are both a morning and afternoon exam scheduled each day, but generally an individual student only has one on a given day. There is no way the state would only schedule Regents after 10a.m. - that would double the number of days lost to exam taking. Special conditions students already make 2 exams a day a tight squeeze, since they are entitled to more time. Wow! Nothing has changed in the 30+ years since I took Regents exam.....other than we were not required to pass them. Passing all of them gave you a Regents diploma.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 9, 2014 20:06:10 GMT -5
Well, now there is also an advanced Regents diploma, too. And the schools are really not supposed to do the local only diploma option - they seem to think that everyone can do at least the Regents. They apparently haven't met my DH's students. link
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Post by Nazgul Girl on May 9, 2014 20:22:06 GMT -5
I think that this is an opportunity to discuss with your son the fact that even though circumstances aren't always optimal for the best outcomes, people can overcome them and still succeed with some planning, such as going to bed earlier, making sure he knows his algebra cold, etc. I think that he'll probably do just fine, but the more energy you put into being upset about the starting time of the test, the more he's going to pick up on the fact that you're literally expecting him to do poorly on it due to the time that it's being given.
I know that this sounds obvious and trite, but I'm not trying to come off that way. My daughter is so sensitive to things that even at the age of 34, if I speak about something a certain way, or load her with my negativity, she can do badly at a job interview, or have a rotten day at school, or be convinced that she will never figure out how to get through a tough financial time which she's having just now.
I think that moving on would be the best thing for everyone, since your son will have to cope with less than optimal circumstances in his life many times. It's probably not good for him to see you getting upset about this. Quite possibly, you're keeping it to yourself, which I imagine is the best strategy. Flexiblity is one of the most necessary, but overlooked, life skills which we can teach our children.
My DD has some heredity and some other trauma which she's experienced working against her, which I can't get into here, but they are both serious factors. I have always told her, even when she was in the depths of despair, that she has always been able to zig when everybody else is zagging, and that she is very resourceful. I can tell you that just by my telling her these things, she has been able to come through difficult circumstances with great success.
I know that you want the best for your son. We truly all want the best for our kids. I wish him well on his test.
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Post by zibazinski on May 9, 2014 20:29:07 GMT -5
Yup, DSs and DDs HS both started at 7:05 am. 4 years of it. Middle school was at 9:40 to 3:50. Elem varied. This was all about bussing. But exams were scheduled totally differently. Exam days and tests were given at certain times, none of them early!!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 20:50:57 GMT -5
I honestly don't care about my son's potential test scores. I don't have to have him take the tests. I don't have to report that I did. If his score isn't great, well, I'm actually more interested in him getting some experience in taking a formal standardized test in that setting. Would I like him to do well, sure, why not. But I'm really not a big standardized test person. I do think its crazy, however, to put so much emphasis and money on these tests, as a district, as a state, and then not try to optimize the conditions under which they are taken. That makes no sense to me. Although, I guess if schools made more sense to me, my kids would probably attend them I do thank you for your kind words though Nazgul! I do appreciate your knowledge and perspective. Edit
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on May 9, 2014 20:59:48 GMT -5
I honestly don't care for my son. whoopsie. You know the phrase we often mention here about "you can have anything you want, you just can't have everything you want."? Well, public schools are asked to do everything. EVERYTHING. And, we can do anything, we just can't do everything. And it's hard to do any of it well when there are so many things/rules/mandates/expectations/whatever that require our attention. I know the research and not just for that, I know lots of research about lots of educational facets. I get it. But, I can't make it all work.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on May 9, 2014 21:16:00 GMT -5
Thanks, Oped ! Have a good weekend.
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Post by Shooby on May 10, 2014 7:56:13 GMT -5
Well, part of life is being able to perform. And, yes in life we don't always have the optimal conditions. I am sure there are lots of days you go to work when you are tired, have a headache, cold, pressing personal things, etc. Soooo, I think teens can manage to sit and take a test in the morning. However, since school funding and performance are such huge issues, it would behoove the school to at least try to create the most optimal conditions.
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