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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 22:47:28 GMT -5
The approach outlined on this site looks most like how my public school kidz were graded www.hslda.org/highschool/docs/GradingGuidelines.aspYou want to grade similarly to the school district you reside in so that your student is measured fairly against others in an applicant pool.
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GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on May 6, 2014 9:36:24 GMT -5
I was trying to be PC but was clear as mud as usual, LOL.
There are definitely issues and problems with NCLB. It is not perfect. Not even close. I think it's biggest success was that it finally exposed the vast disparity of the quality of public education in this country.
But, you are absolutely correct, Susanna, it doesn't quite grasp that not every student learns the same way, performs the same way, or is even capable of learning. There is still a huge amount of work to be done in that regard so that we do push each and every child to reach his or her potential and not revert back to warehousing everyone but the best and brightest.
And, Oped, I was a little tongue and cheek there, sorry. NCLB was supposed to create a standardized curriculum with a standardized set of norms for testing against -- i.e., standardized "grading". I'm not sure any of that is possible given the range of human intellectual ability and the lack of actual NCLB funding, although I absolutely do support the idea that we should do whatever we can to lift poorer performing districts (and poorer performing students) as high as they can go.
I am sorry to admit that I just don't have any answers, although I wholeheartedly endorse the spirit of NCLB.
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Post by Abby Normal on May 6, 2014 12:09:38 GMT -5
Oregon has gone to a "standard" grading system. Basically, they set the standard and then you are graded on how close you are to achieving. 3.7-4 (exceeds) 2.9-3.6 (meets) 2.3-2.8 Nearly meets 2.2-0 not meeting.
Homework and class participation don't count- only how you test on the subject being taught. So for math, DS has a 3.9 in geometry, a 3.2 in ratios and proportions and a 3.3 overall.
It's freaking ridiculous. The teachers hate it, the parents hate it. Some kids aren't succeeding because they never do their homework because it "doesn't count"
Oregon just announced last week that they never meant the program to be mandatory (but it was written that way) and the districts can choose. Now we have to spend the money to switch it back.
So yes, homework should count for something.
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Post by CarolinaKat on May 6, 2014 14:00:40 GMT -5
except in school, you don't get to go over classwork/homework and work it untiil it's correct for a 100%....if you don't understand the homework, you still have to turn it in and you may only get a 70% - you don't get to redo the stuff you got wrong. If your kids' teachers are grading all homework assignments for correctness, then your kids aren't getting much homework. Imagine grading just 10 problems of math every day, looking at the process as they "show their work" to see what they did wrong. Then multiply that by 125-150 kids.
If your kids' teachers are doing that type of work even three times a week (my normal homework load), I'm pretty impressed.
I teach English, by the way, not math. English and math have the two worst paper loads.
My teachers would hav eus switch papers and grade as we went over the answers. Yes you could cheat but i don't remember many doing it. in college EVERY homework was graded including points for partial credit....it was usually an insane part of your grade too
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Post by 973beachbum on May 6, 2014 14:16:24 GMT -5
My kids school still does the kids switching papers thing. It mostly works. It really hasn't been something I have heard many complaints about but I could see it being a problem for a kid who is struggling. GPA's still confuse me sometimes. Regular ones out of a 4.0 I get, but kids in AP courses where the GPA is weighted still confuse me. There are a couple in DD's class who have GPA's over a 5.0. On the subject of standardized testing isn't an AP test the epitome of a standardized test? They literally have one test nationwide and every teacher teaching AP classes has to "teach to the test" if they want any of the students they are teaching to pass it. So why are standardized tests all bad yet the Advanced placement tests good.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 14:21:47 GMT -5
I don't know that all standardized tests are bad. Like most tools, its more about how they are used than anything...
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Post by raeoflyte on May 6, 2014 14:54:25 GMT -5
We graded each others homework in 7th grade algebra, and then had to call out our score for the teacher to write down. We were all friends, so 1 or 2 kids who actually knew what the heck they were doing got 5 out of 5 everyday, and the rest of us just gave each other 4/5 regardless of how many questions we missed.
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