Herbs For Healthier You

[tloonya]

My friend was given something to take for cleansing of her system.

Description is as follows:
SP Cleanse enlists the detoxifying properties of 20 different whole foods and botanicals in this completely vegetarian nutritional supplement. The phytonutrients from these multiple ingredients help the body eliminate toxins that originate in the environment, as well as metabolic toxins that are given off internally. The vitamin complexes, minerals, and phytonutrients in SP Cleanse support the body's internal waste-removal systems to encourage healthy kidney function, help purify the blood, support lymphatic system function, promote efficient gastrointestinal elimination, and maintain healthy liver detoxification function

I am only concern about dosage
Suggested Use

Seven capsules, three times per day on an empty stomach or with a nutritional supplement shake, or as directed.
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Have anyone here using herbal supplements for healthier yous?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

She needs to do some research on what it is she is taking before she ingests anything. Herbal remedies can have side effects just like prescriptions.

Is your friend on any other medications? If she is she needs to talk to her doctor.

Just because it is "herbal" or "all natural" doesn't automatically mean it is safe, several herbal remedies can interfere with prescription meds and sometimes cause life threatening side effects.

I have nothing against herbal remedies in general, I've used nettles for allergies and found it works a lot better than OTC allergy meds (though it tastes nasty).   I also drank Mother's Milk tea which contains fenugreek (sp?) to increase breast milk supply (also tastes nasty).

[sheilaincali]

I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer- some of those herbs and crap people push are just a big pyramid scheme.  People sign up as "distributors" and have little to no knowledge on what herbal remedies they are selling other than what the brochure tells them.

One of these people told my mother that her toothpaste caused her (my mom's) breast cancer and if she just switched tooth pastes she wouldn't need to do chemotherapy. So yeah I'm a bit jaded when it comes to quacks out to make a buck suggesting I take 21 pills a day.

Like Drama said- some can be useful if taken correctly but what you are describing sounds more like a line of bs someone sold your friend. She really should get on Dr. Google and do some research.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

One of these people told my mother that her toothpaste caused her (my mom's) breast cancer and if she just switched tooth pastes she wouldn't need to do chemotherapy

I got told I could cure my periodontal disease if I just used tea tree oil as my toothpaste. Look on my dentist's face was priceless when I told her.

[alabamagal]

I am not against herbal supplements, some of them can have some beneficial effects. But this one sounds like BS. The body's cleansing functions work pretty well by themselves.

Just remember that herbal remedies can pretty much make any claim they want, as long as they are not causing any harm, other than to your wallet.

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I eat lot of fruits and vegetables, and I'm pretty darn healthy with no herbal supplements or "cleansing" diets. My feeling is that if you eat healthy in the first place you wouldn't need cleanses and de-tox diets.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Just remember that herbal remedies can pretty much make any claim they want, as long as they are not causing any harm

Actually since herbal remedies are not regulated under the FDA, they don't need to disclose anything at all. It could possibly kill you and they are not legally bound to disclose it. Most people who sell herbal supplements have no clue what it is they are actually hocking, just like Sheila said.

[HoneyBBQ]

Gross.

[tloonya]

Apr 18, 2014 11:06:44 GMT -5 @tbird said:

Apr 18, 2014 10:44:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

One of these people told my mother that her toothpaste caused her (my mom's) breast cancer and if she just switched tooth pastes she wouldn't need to do chemotherapy

I got told I could cure my periodontal disease if I just used tea tree oil as my toothpaste. Look on my dentist's face was priceless when I told her.

tea tree oil can be quite effective for many things so not sure why you are rolling around. I have used it on infected partial erupted wisdom teeth and it works amazingly quickly - faster than "dentist" treatment of antibiotics I got the previous time.

the medical establishment can be quite blind to natural remedies. Theres no money for them in it.

Actually there could be tons of money in it. Bottle of that cleanser is $32...

And my friend actually is seeing that naturopatologist or whatever that profession is.
He put her on gluten free and she lost 12lb and her face cleared up amazingly.
But she is drinking and shoving that stuff down - last one made me nervous just because of the dosage.
However her doctor told her to take only 5 once per day. I am glad it is not 21.

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Apr 18, 2014 11:06:44 GMT -5 @tbird said:

Apr 18, 2014 10:44:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

The medical establishment can be quite blind to natural remedies. Theres no money for them in it.

I agree with that. DH had an attack of gout and they prescribed meds that had nasty side effects. We found that eating dried cherries would clear up an attack- not as fast as the pills, but zero side effects. He hasn't had an attack in ages, but if he does, we'll buy more dried cherries.

[lynnerself]

I have found most of my providers supportive of herbal supplements that have some sort of research behind them.
My current doctor recommended trying Butterburr for my migraines.  But also continued to prescribe the meds that have worked for years.

I find the anti traditional medicine folks less flexible.

My niece actually told my Mother that my Dad wound not have died from mesothelioma if he had followed the naturopathic diet and supplements  she was into.

[sheilaincali]

Loony- I'm on a gluten and dairy free diet and have lost 80 lbs in 6 months and my skin looks amazing.  Whether that's from the gluten free part, the dairy free part or the sugar free part I don't know.  Maybe it's because I'm getting a solid 8 hours of sleep a night and drinking 64 ounces of water a day.  Not being able to eat bread, pastas, sweets, sugars, etc. will help you lose weight fast. Just cutting that out I lost 11 lbs in the first week so her losing weight on a GF diet isn't out of the norm. Especially if you don't replace regular cookies with GF cookies.

Lynne- I hope your mom smacked your niece upside the head.  What a cruel and insensitive thing to say.  In my mom's case it was a girl I went to HS with that was married to my dad's partner's son.  My mom told her she was a fool and walked away.  To the best of my knowledge my mom never spoke to her again.  Helped that she is a nutter and divorced the partner's son a year or so later so my mom hasn't run across her again. 

[justme]

Apr 18, 2014 11:06:44 GMT -5 @tbird said:

Apr 18, 2014 10:44:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

One of these people told my mother that her toothpaste caused her (my mom's) breast cancer and if she just switched tooth pastes she wouldn't need to do chemotherapy

I got told I could cure my periodontal disease if I just used tea tree oil as my toothpaste. Look on my dentist's face was priceless when I told her.

tea tree oil can be quite effective for many things so not sure why you are rolling around. I have used it on infected partial erupted wisdom teeth and it works amazingly quickly - faster than "dentist" treatment of antibiotics I got the previous time.

the medical establishment can be quite blind to natural remedies. Theres no money for them in it.

 How did you stomach that? I used to use it on my face and if some dripped down to my lips

I'm guessing they laughed because I don't think periodontal disease is caused by bacteria or fungus - which is what you use tea tree oil for (though it may have other properties too that I'm forgetting.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Perio is caused by bacteria, but I've read no peer reviewed data suggesting tea tree oil can CURE it.

I've read some support for it can relieve symptoms, but that's not the same thing.

I'd like to keep my teeth in my head and at the time I was pregnant. Pregnancy will complicate pre-existing dental issues and it's dangerous to mom/baby to leave things untreated.  I wasn't going to play around with herbal remedies when a 25 minute cleaning with what was basically a teeny tiny pressure hose could fix things in a single appointment.

I laughed b/c the look on my dentist's face was pretty good when I told her I wasn't coming in anymore, I was using tea tree oil to cure all my ills.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Tea tree oil does NOTHING for the bacteria that cause periodontal disease. Believe me, we have looked at a TON of natural remedies. In 30+ years of dental research (most of which is NOT sponsored by pharmaceutical companies), I don't ever remember seeing an article of tea tree oil being effective in curing periodontal disease. I have seen some very interesting things that WERE promising, but never panned out.

If someone wants to risk their teeth on an unproven treatment, by all means take the risk. Personally, I prefer to go with what they KNOW works.

I was told by someone when I had my septicemia and double prosthetic infection that I really didn't need the 3x/day IV infusions of cephazolin + rifampin. I could be totally cured from my infection without surgery if only I used colloidal silver. Ummmm......I don't think so. I'm not going to wait for my heart, lungs, kidneys and spine to get infected too just for some crackpot treatment. Even with antibiotics, I had a 30% risk of death. I kinda like living.

[alabamagal]

Apr 18, 2014 14:00:58 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Tea tree oil does NOTHING for the bacteria that cause periodontal disease. Believe me, we have looked at a TON of natural remedies. In 30+ years of dental research (most of which is NOT sponsored by pharmaceutical companies), I don't ever remember seeing an article of tea tree oil being effective in curing periodontal disease. I have seen some very interesting things that WERE promising, but never panned out.

If someone wants to risk their teeth on an unproven treatment, by all means take the risk. Personally, I prefer to go with what they KNOW works.

I was told by someone when I had my septicemia and double prosthetic infection that I really didn't need the 3x/day IV infusions of cephazolin + rifampin. I could be totally cured from my infection without surgery if only I used colloidal silver. Ummmm......I don't think so. I'm not going to wait for my heart, lungs, kidneys and spine to get infected too just for some crackpot treatment. Even with antibiotics, I had a 30% risk of death. I kinda like living.

Well I have a cousin-in-law who believes all diseases are caused by bad thoughts and that you can cure anything by having a positive attitude.  So according to her you were sick because of your negative attitude.

I would stick with the medicines though

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

bad thoughts and that you can cure anything by having a positive attitude

Happy thoughts can also make you fly!

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Apr 18, 2014 14:18:48 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

bad thoughts and that you can cure anything by having a positive attitude

Happy thoughts can also make you fly!

I thought that that was meth?  Or is it heroin?

In any case, it's still a pharmaceutical!